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Title: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: Quickseller on January 14, 2017, 12:16:27 AM
User knightkon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=533999) has made at least 10 posts that say something along the lines of "lock this thread" with a couple of extra sentences added to each post to make it appear at first glance (if only looking at one post) that he is participating in the thread conversation.

There are at least an additional three posts in the lending section made recently by knightkon that say something along the lines of "if some condition is met, then PM and I might be able to help", however based on the high volume of posts in the lending section, and the magnitude of the changes from the original proposed terms of each loan, I find it unlikely that he has both the means and intention of filling these loans.

In 8 of knightkon's recent above described posts, the prior post was made at least two days ago, with many being made 4+ days ago, making the "lock this thread" statement both unnecessary and ironic.

The offending posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744768.msg17498267#msg17498267 - prior post 4 days ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1740341.msg17498274#msg17498274 - prior post 4 days ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1743102.msg17498252#msg17498252 - prior post 3 days ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1746265.msg17498241#msg17498241 - prior post 3 days ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1746274.msg17498224#msg17498224 - prior post 3 days ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744041.msg17498204#msg17498204 - prior post 3 days ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1724426.msg17498012#msg17498012
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749932.msg17498000#msg17498000
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749746.msg17497975#msg17497975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1747385.msg17497907#msg17497907
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744523.msg17498296#msg17498296 - prior post 4 days ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1750939.msg17497851#msg17497851

If possible, can an admin please look into this, and take appropriate action against this guy. Thanks.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: rizzlarolla on January 14, 2017, 12:35:34 AM

Pfff...


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: knightkon on January 14, 2017, 12:51:18 AM
How I run my business is none of yours and if I wish to request people locking their posts, then I will.  I was a lender on here for a bit and I still do loans, only a select few.  I own 3 pawn shops and this is all my shops do is give loans and such.  As far as my ability to fund, I am sure I could buy and sell your ass.  Sorry if my posting recently has not been to your standards, but you are no one special buddy.  If you go through all my posts and not just part of them, you will see when I was very active in the lending, I was making these posts all of the time.  I also post feedback when i feel necessary and such.  Sorry I have not been active for a bit, I was closing on a commercial property and have not had the time to get on. 

I am sure you know and just do not care; however, i found when you make such a post on the old posts, you will not have new lenders coming in and making new loan request comments because you will see the last post being that asking for the thread to be locked.  I hope I have explained myself to you, like I need to; however, you have a great day.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: LegalDiscussions on January 14, 2017, 12:55:56 AM
Also QS check his post history he hardly makes 20 posts in a week and you calling him a spammer ?

I remember some users keep yelling use escrow .. so these are practices and actually should be encouraged.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: botany on January 14, 2017, 01:18:06 AM
Also QS check his post history he hardly makes 20 posts in a week and you calling him a spammer ?

I remember some users keep yelling use escrow .. so these are practices and actually should be encouraged.

The users who kept yelling escrow.... got banned.  :P
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=946204.0
That shows you that these practices are not encouraged. People claiming to have the community's interest at heart while actually spamming for their signature campaigns get banned.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: minifrij on January 14, 2017, 01:19:25 AM
How I run my business is none of yours and if I wish to request people locking their posts, then I will.
Then do it over PM. Spamming 'OP - Please lock this thread' over and over again just to get paid from your signature doesn't help anything.

I own 3 pawn shops and this is all my shops do is give loans and such.  As far as my ability to fund, I am sure I could buy and sell your ass.
What a nice story. Thank you for sharing with the class.

Sorry if my posting recently has not been to your standards, but you are no one special buddy.
QS' posts or status is irrelevant. This thread isn't about him.

If you go through all my posts and not just part of them, you will see when I was very active in the lending, I was making these posts all of the time.
'I posted a lot more of what you are complaining about so therefore you are wrong!'. What a great argument.
Your previous posts are also irrelevant. You don't get a pass for spamming because you posted semi-decently in the past.

I also post feedback when i feel necessary and such.  Sorry I have not been active for a bit, I was closing on a commercial property and have not had the time to get on.
Another few snippets of irrelevant information.

I am sure you know and just do not care; however, i found when you make such a post on the old posts, you will not have new lenders coming in and making new loan request comments because you will see the last post being that asking for the thread to be locked.  I hope I have explained myself to you, like I need to; however, you have a great day.
I'll take your word for it. I can see the way that you are thinking, however such requests are best done through PM or with some other structure to the post. Whether you like it or not, this is spam currently.



Also QS check his post history he hardly makes 20 posts in a week and you calling him a spammer ?
He made over 20 posts in the last two days, what are you talking about?


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 14, 2017, 03:58:41 AM
Mmm.  QS, you really ought to shut the fuck up after disgracing yourself with your escrow scam.  Posting that people should lock threads is trivial compared to your transgressions, and if this forum had any balls whatsoever, you would be booted out of it.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: knightkon on January 14, 2017, 04:28:26 AM
User knightkon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=533999) has made at least 10 posts that say something along the lines of "lock this thread" with a couple of extra sentences added to each post to make it appear at first glance (if only looking at one post) that he is participating in the thread conversation. I justified each of my posts below in purple.  I removed "lock this thread" since that seems to bother you.  Still made all posts valid.

There are at least an additional three posts in the lending section made recently by knightkon that say something along the lines of "if some condition is met, then PM and I might be able to help", however based on the high volume of posts in the lending section, and the magnitude of the changes from the original proposed terms of each loan, I find it unlikely that he has both the means and intention of filling these loans. You should look into my post history when it comes to loans on here.  I have funded over 5 BTC in small loans on here and funded at least 15 BTC in larger loand which started on here.  You should worry more about yourself in my opinion.

In 8 of knightkon's recent above described posts, the prior post was made at least two days ago, with many being made 4+ days ago, making the "lock this thread" statement both unnecessary and ironic. All my posts are justified below.  Just because I suggest they lock the thread as a courtesy, it saves some red feedback in some situations, does not make me a spammer.

The offending posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744768.msg17498267#msg17498267 - prior post 4 days ago (Removed comment - could be excessive, but if you look at other posts, at least one of the threads were locked once brought to their attention)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1740341.msg17498274#msg17498274 - prior post 4 days ago (Edited -Removed "please lock thread"; however, I still beleive the guy is still mocking the forum, or should I not voice my opinion in a FORUM??)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1743102.msg17498252#msg17498252 - prior post 3 days ago (Thread locked shortly after requested - Successful!!  Probably should not have asked though, huh)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1746265.msg17498241#msg17498241 - prior post 3 days ago (Edited -Removed "please lock thread", still answered member question that was never answered...  Shouldn't answer questions I guess?)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1746274.msg17498224#msg17498224 - prior post 3 days ago (Edited -Removed "please lock thread", still confirmed collateral not valid as a valid lender instead of hearing from non-lenders)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744041.msg17498204#msg17498204 - prior post 3 days ago (Confirming and supporting that accounts are not valid collateral due to scams defaulted scammed accounts are used for, should we not worry about this scams from sold accounts any longer???)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1724426.msg17498012#msg17498012 (Edited -Removed "please lock thread", sorry I voiced my disgust for those trying to scam.  Am I not allowed to voice my opinion on a forum??)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749932.msg17498000#msg17498000 (Edited -Removed "please lock thread", as a lender asked through PM to look at this loan, i posted my comments publicly for the record, should I not do that)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749746.msg17497975#msg17497975 (Sorry I offered to fill a loan request, considering I am a lender, I should not offer to fill loans, sorry!! [some people children])
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1747385.msg17497907#msg17497907 (figured since the guy was online and did not lock a paid thread, I would remind him, or am I not allowed to do that???)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1744523.msg17498296#msg17498296 - prior post 4 days ago (Edited -Removed "please lock thread", - Reconfirming as a lender not valid collateral after asked to look at loan 3 days ago through PM)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1750939.msg17497851#msg17497851 (Edited -Removed "please lock thread", again, offered loan service, but I am guessing I should not do that as a lender??)

If possible, can an admin please look into this, and take appropriate action against this guy. Thanks.
Now that I am in front of a computer and not on a tablet so I can quote and such, I have responded to your initial claim.  As a courtesy, I removed the "please lock thread", however I still fee each of those threads need locked.  As for the rest, you should do your research a little more before you put your foot in your mouth.  I was a long term lender on here a few months back and have fell off.  Just because I get back on here and make my services available again does not make it none of your business or make me a signature spammer.  If I wanted my signature credit, I could easily post in the general forum in less than half of the time it takes me to look over 5 of the loan requests in this forum.  If you notice in my post history, I do not do loan deals or terms on here (for small amounts) through PM, I make it all public so if there is a default, I have public proof which normally has been quoted by another member so it could not be changed.   I do thank you for your concern, however be concerned with members that actually cause issues on here,  not members who contribute to the forum.  If I were you, I would be more concerned with your own issues before worrying about others, for it looks like you have a number of them.

NOTE TO ADMIN - The next version of this forum should have the ability to block members....


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: knightkon on January 14, 2017, 04:28:51 AM
Mmm.  QS, you really ought to shut the fuck up after disgracing yourself with your escrow scam.  Posting that people should lock threads is trivial compared to your transgressions, and if this forum had any balls whatsoever, you would be booted out of it.
Could not have said it better myself!!


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: Quickseller on January 14, 2017, 05:14:55 AM
Also QS check his post history he hardly makes 20 posts in a week and you calling him a spammer ?
He can make 20 posts if he wants or he can make 200 posts if he wants but that doesn't change the fact that the referenced posts are unnecessary and spam. He seems to have a history of making several posts in a short burst followed by no posts for several weeks, this could indicate that he has several accounts and is trying to make the minimum number of posts for the campaign that each account is in (this in itself is no big deal provided that his posts contribute to the conversation, but they do not), or it could mean that he has one account that participates in a signature campaign and does not want to get removed from said campaign for inactivity (again no big deal as long as he doesn't post random crap, but again not the case). 

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I remember some users keep yelling use escrow .. so these are practices and actually should be encouraged.
Are you talking about this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=946204.0) guy? Or are you talking about how signature spammers are often telling people to accept escrow in random marketplace threads?

The overall point is that he is fairly clearly pulling up several threads in the same sub at once and posting almost the exact same thing in each thread very quickly. I think it is obvious that he is posting for his post count and is not contributing to any of the threads.

Some of the threads he posted in likely were locked by a moderator as they have served this purpose. Some threads attracted additional unnecessary posts from others sometimes saying to stop bumping so many threads some saying nearly similar unnecessary things (e.g. Paid posts that add nothing to the thread).


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: Cast12 on January 14, 2017, 05:36:46 AM
Mmm.  QS, you really ought to shut the fuck up after disgracing yourself with your escrow scam.  Posting that people should lock threads is trivial compared to your transgressions, and if this forum had any balls whatsoever, you would be booted out of it.
Could not have said it better myself!!
Uh huh, yea, what does an escrow scam have anything to do with asking people to lock their threads? Also knightkon, there is a block button; it's right under the pm/check profile icons.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on January 14, 2017, 06:38:17 AM
Mmm.  QS, you really ought to shut the fuck up after disgracing yourself with your escrow scam.  Posting that people should lock threads is trivial compared to your transgressions, and if this forum had any balls whatsoever, you would be booted out of it.
Not sure where that is coming from ? Logical fallacies I guess ?
Regardless of their past or anybody for that matter has a valid point to be talked about,we should rather focus on the topic than personally attacking them..No offence Pharmacist.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: knightkon on January 14, 2017, 12:46:23 PM
Mmm.  QS, you really ought to shut the fuck up after disgracing yourself with your escrow scam.  Posting that people should lock threads is trivial compared to your transgressions, and if this forum had any balls whatsoever, you would be booted out of it.
Could not have said it better myself!!
Uh huh, yea, what does an escrow scam have anything to do with asking people to lock their threads? Also knightkon, there is a block button; it's right under the pm/check profile icons.
I fees stupid on that, I never knew that!!  Thank you for the info, I will be using it!


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: zazarb on January 14, 2017, 06:57:14 PM
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You should look into my post history when it comes to loans on here.  I have funded over 5 BTC in small loans on here and funded at least 15 BTC in larger loand which started on here.  You should worry more about yourself in my opinion.
@knightkon
sorry for off topic, but I looked to you post history(even more I am "sitting" every day in lending section)
and i am curious from where such stats, I not found reference or evidence. All what I found in you closed lending topic, less than 1BTC as is shown by and the repayment address also.


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 14, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Mmm.  QS, you really ought to shut the fuck up after disgracing yourself with your escrow scam.  Posting that people should lock threads is trivial compared to your transgressions, and if this forum had any balls whatsoever, you would be booted out of it.
Not sure where that is coming from ? Logical fallacies I guess ?
Regardless of their past or anybody for that matter has a valid point to be talked about,we should rather focus on the topic than personally attacking them..No offence Pharmacist.
Any sort of pseudo-helpful suggestion by a known scammer is irksome to me, that's where it's coming from.  QS' s escrow scam and subsequent lies and casuistry are not fallacious.   That really happened.  As to whether he has the right to call knightkon out, yrs he does.  But QS really needs to clean his own house first because he really did rip people off.

No offense taken, and I'm going to shut up now.  ;)


Title: Re: knightkon spamming the lending section with "lock this thread"
Post by: knightkon on January 14, 2017, 10:23:50 PM
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You should look into my post history when it comes to loans on here.  I have funded over 5 BTC in small loans on here and funded at least 15 BTC in larger loand which started on here.  You should worry more about yourself in my opinion.
@knightkon
sorry for off topic, but I looked to you post history(even more I am "sitting" every day in lending section)
and i am curious from where such stats, I not found reference or evidence. All what I found in you closed lending topic, less than 1BTC as is shown by and the repayment address also.
Thank you for asking.  I PMed you more information.  Please let me know if there is anything else you would like to know.