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Title: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: jamalaezaz on January 17, 2017, 01:56:55 PM Socal Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=265035 (http://archive.is/c2JCj)
His Alt account Palay: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=830027 (http://archive.is/BmSa2) Bitcointalk Address: 1BfefJR6bdgC8boKsUk9BuFTx1DyhYNUSf Address Staked: http://archive.is/SAWNk Scammed Amount: 0.5BTC Transaction Link: https://blockchain.info/tx/855553921fffb700dec58f2140ff0800bd8b8a5e9bddfcb19d75b5898e417467 PalCoin Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1462217.0 (http://archive.is/j0R9I) Skype: palcoins Skype Profile: https://i.imgur.com/1vAZ0E8.jpg Summery: This Guy "Socal" (Felix) Pretend to be a Crypto Currency Financial Adviser, he's owner of an altcoin "Palcoin" so Taskie Hired him as financial adviser of Taskie Project., We were looking for a Dev to create Taskie's ICO website.. he said to use that he know a developer who can Create the ICO website, and Asked me to send money to him.. I've sent 0.5BTC to his Address,.but at the same time I got a message from another Developer who wanted to work with me, he actually showed me a built ICO, . I found the other guy more reasonable, so I asked Socal that do not Ask your Dev to work because I got a Good Dev with, so Return the BTC back. but he went off and din't re send the BTC.. after few hours when I checked his Address on Blockchain, I found he transferred the BTC to another Address. Skype Chat Log: https://i.imgur.com/ONowloK.png https://i.imgur.com/pQqC4s1.png https://i.imgur.com/sDyA18s.png https://i.imgur.com/v0DWHSP.png https://i.imgur.com/PLbPq1D.png https://i.imgur.com/WDoGPRY.png https://i.imgur.com/kPpQcM8.png https://i.imgur.com/rOkTuue.png https://i.imgur.com/9Vq7s8G.png Ignored a unnecessary conversations and than he never come online again. its been more than 30 Hours, no any response from him. and he Sent BTC to another Address. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: Chevas Regal on January 17, 2017, 03:00:47 PM Quote This Guy "Socal" (Felix) Pretend to be a Crypto Currency Financial Adviser, he's owner of an altcoin "Palcoin" It doesn't seems a scam! What i read above means that you hired him as a financial Adviser and for it you paid him , and after some hours you told him that you don't require him anymore so ? so? so? so...you said him to return the money back ..:D but that is too funny, he should not refund you a penny now as advice business works the same way , I work in Pataya as a Quality Control Manager , I hire Number of Team for checking of Thread(textile) sometime i find much more quality experts and get them work in place of my old hired Team but i never ask them that please repay back my money.so Taskie Hired him as financial adviser of Taskie Project., We were looking for a Dev to create Taskie's ICO website.. he said to use that he know a developer who can Create the ICO website, and Asked me to send money to him.. I've sent 0.5BTC to his Address,.but at the same time I got a message from another Developer who wanted to work with me, he actually showed me a built ICO, . I found the other guy more reasonable, so I asked Socal that do not Ask your Dev to work because I got a Good Dev with, so Return the BTC back. but he went off and din't re send the BTC.. after few hours when I checked his Address on Blockchain, I found he transferred the BTC to another Address. The scenario will look like scam as seeing from currency exchange view or trading view but when it comes for a benchmarking testing or some piece of consultancy then it is not a scam. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: Avirunes on January 17, 2017, 03:20:40 PM Quote This Guy "Socal" (Felix) Pretend to be a Crypto Currency Financial Adviser, he's owner of an altcoin "Palcoin" It doesn't seems a scam! What i read above means that you hired him as a financial Adviser and for it you paid him , and after some hours you told him that you don't require him anymore so ? so? so? so...you said him to return the money back ..:D but that is too funny, he should not refund you a penny now as advice business works the same way , I work in Pataya as a Quality Control Manager , I hire Number of Team for checking of Thread(textile) sometime i find much more quality experts and get them work in place of my old hired Team but i never ask them that please repay back my money.so Taskie Hired him as financial adviser of Taskie Project., We were looking for a Dev to create Taskie's ICO website.. he said to use that he know a developer who can Create the ICO website, and Asked me to send money to him.. I've sent 0.5BTC to his Address,.but at the same time I got a message from another Developer who wanted to work with me, he actually showed me a built ICO, . I found the other guy more reasonable, so I asked Socal that do not Ask your Dev to work because I got a Good Dev with, so Return the BTC back. but he went off and din't re send the BTC.. after few hours when I checked his Address on Blockchain, I found he transferred the BTC to another Address. The scenario will look like scam as seeing from currency exchange view or trading view but when it comes for a benchmarking testing or some piece of consultancy then it is not a scam. Did you read the whole matter? ??? The job for which jamal sent funds wasn't part of the job but instead he received btc as he promised to get the ICO site built (which wasn't the part of his job for which he was hired for) from someone that he knew with 0.5BTC. Thats why you shouldn't keep on employing multiple guys for same work and at the same time. However the if the Dev hired by socal to develop the site has already made it then I think you (jamal) should compensate for the time he had put in for developing the site, otherwise if not then you sure should have refund IMO. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: jamalaezaz on January 17, 2017, 03:50:27 PM Quote This Guy "Socal" (Felix) Pretend to be a Crypto Currency Financial Adviser, he's owner of an altcoin "Palcoin" It doesn't seems a scam! What i read above means that you hired him as a financial Adviser and for it you paid him , and after some hours you told him that you don't require him anymore so ? so? so? so...you said him to return the money back ..:D but that is too funny, he should not refund you a penny now as advice business works the same way , I work in Pataya as a Quality Control Manager , I hire Number of Team for checking of Thread(textile) sometime i find much more quality experts and get them work in place of my old hired Team but i never ask them that please repay back my money.so Taskie Hired him as financial adviser of Taskie Project., We were looking for a Dev to create Taskie's ICO website.. he said to use that he know a developer who can Create the ICO website, and Asked me to send money to him.. I've sent 0.5BTC to his Address,.but at the same time I got a message from another Developer who wanted to work with me, he actually showed me a built ICO, . I found the other guy more reasonable, so I asked Socal that do not Ask your Dev to work because I got a Good Dev with, so Return the BTC back. but he went off and din't re send the BTC.. after few hours when I checked his Address on Blockchain, I found he transferred the BTC to another Address. The scenario will look like scam as seeing from currency exchange view or trading view but when it comes for a benchmarking testing or some piece of consultancy then it is not a scam. Did you read the whole matter? ??? The job for which jamal sent funds wasn't part of the job but instead he received btc as he promised to get the ICO site built (which wasn't the part of his job for which he was hired for) from someone that he knew with 0.5BTC. Thats why you shouldn't keep on employing multiple guys for same work and at the same time. However the if the Dev hired by socal to develop the site has already made it then I think you (jamal) should compensate for the time he had put in for developing the site, otherwise if not then you sure should have refund IMO. 1: Socal was a Adviser. (his payment was agreed at ICO end) these 0.5BTC was not his payment (You understand but above guy not) it is clearly stated in the skype log. 2: The dov didn't develop anything. dev don't even started the work when I asked him to do not ask dev to work.. 3: but if dev made anything than socal should response me and inform me whatever the dev done. 4: If you follow the funds through the transactions. you will know funds moved to an exchange.. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: dolores13 on January 17, 2017, 07:27:39 PM watch-out scammers are everywhere in this forum , always use Escrow and do not send first.
Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: jamalaezaz on January 18, 2017, 02:59:53 AM watch-out scammers are everywhere in this forum , always use Escrow and do not send first. He was the escrow actually. Lol.I sent him 0.5BTC to hold till dev complete his work. and he himself runaway. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: CjMapope on January 19, 2017, 12:48:59 PM Jesus hell, THIS is what happens when you have:
one newbie random with an idea they want money but have nothing so they hire a 'manager" from here to try add legitimacy. people like jamalaz who wanna work for every project... They THEN hire a "dev", and a graphic person, and "advisers" and, and, AND... what the fuck is even going on at this point? a buncha promises have been made, money starts getting lost (INVESTORS monies), the whole thing is a shit show. Reminds me to not give a penny to those type projects. What a circus! P.S = i would feel SICK if i had hired a "manager" and they got my investors money scammed from them, why would you give investors money away so freely? you were like inna hurry to pay him that 0.5BTC, wow! Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: jamalaezaz on January 19, 2017, 04:39:24 PM P.S = i would feel SICK if i had hired a "manager" and they got my investors money scammed from them, why would you give investors money away so freely? you were like inna hurry to pay him that 0.5BTC, wow! I never spent any investors money. those 0.5BTC was our Own which was reserved for Project development purposes, we cannot spend investors money like that. all money are secured in escrow wallet and their are clear escrow agreements and term, no one from team can touch the investors money until the coin fully launch. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: Chevas Regal on January 19, 2017, 04:43:59 PM It is very much disappointing that old members like Socal with Reputation are scamming people for some silly amounts. I thought that it would gor settled but today i see that it is still pending... Bad for bitcoin users.
At least he should have replied to the argument. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: Patatas on January 19, 2017, 05:02:33 PM Sorry for your loss.
-Too naive of you Jamal to fall for shit-shows. -Financial Advisor doesn't start with having all the funds you own. -How Big of a business your ICO was that you actually needed a "Financial Advisor"? -Are his coin still traded at YoBit ? Try if you can contact him there. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: Atomicat on January 19, 2017, 05:22:21 PM @jamalaezaz: Did you verify that he is the owner of the account "socal"? There have been multiple attempts where scammers tried to impersonate bitcointalk users with positive trust.
It's still sad to see so many scammers in the bitcoin community. Always use a *very* trusted escrow whenever possible. There is still the possibility that these escrow's might scam too but the chance is lower. Title: Re: 0.5BTC Scammed by Dark Green Socal/PALEY - Palcoin Post by: CjMapope on January 19, 2017, 09:45:51 PM P.S = i would feel SICK if i had hired a "manager" and they got my investors money scammed from them, why would you give investors money away so freely? you were like inna hurry to pay him that 0.5BTC, wow! I never spent any investors money. those 0.5BTC was our Own which was reserved for Project development purposes, we cannot spend investors money like that. all money are secured in escrow wallet and their are clear escrow agreements and term, no one from team can touch the investors money until the coin fully launch. lol im sure 8) of course your not gonna ADMIT that was investors money, it was just money on the project on top from WHO's pocket, hmm? so WHO's taking the 0.5BTC loss from your non-diligence? w.e, try to brush it off, guess its not my money so i shouldn't care so much... ;p i just hope you learn your lesson, cause i know ill NEVER give you a penny from my pocket, you may give it to some random and say "its ok!" |
