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Title: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bitcoinmaster44 on January 19, 2017, 01:27:52 PM
I want to share with you my yesterdays and todays winnings with mutual betting system:

1. Real Madrid vs Celta Vigo (x 23.234) | https://www.onehash.com/event/football/copa_del_rey/33955

2. Novak Djokovic vs Denis Istomin (x 23.110) | https://www.onehash.com/event/tennis/australian_open_atp/35735

I'm a type of niggard gambler, I bet only in small amounts (but many events). Mutual betting is a perfect for this type of betting. I look for events with high multiplier and try my luck.

So i bet 0,0021 on Denis Istomin and earned 0,048531 and for Celta Vigo game  i made 0,0487914.


Not bad, right?


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: BTCyuan$euro on January 19, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
Nice Odds!


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: Turk Ace on January 19, 2017, 03:43:31 PM
I think you were just increadably lucky. Now save that bitcoin for when its worth millions :)  :P


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: harizen on January 19, 2017, 03:59:01 PM
I want to share with you my yesterdays and todays winnings with mutual betting system:

1. Real Madrid vs Celta Vigo (x 23.234) | https://www.onehash.com/event/football/copa_del_rey/33955

2. Novak Djokovic vs Denis Istomin (x 23.110) | https://www.onehash.com/event/tennis/australian_open_atp/35735

I'm a type of niggard gambler, I bet only in small amounts (but many events). Mutual betting is a perfect for this type of betting. I look for events with high multiplier and try my luck.

So i bet 0,0021 on Denis Istomin and earned 0,048531 and for Celta Vigo game  i made 0,0487914.


Not bad, right?

In terms of profit you got, yes it's really not bad and congrats.

Anyways it can't applied in most of the games. It's more risky as we all know that betting on really high odds for about a minimum of above @10 doesn't require any analyzations meaning you are relying on the luck alone which is the same principle when doing gambling at those house edge gambling games.

Even with small amount, if it will become a continous loss then it will become big someday. Well if that is effective to you then up to you if you will stick to that.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: piloder on January 19, 2017, 05:30:44 PM
Oh those are insanely big odds, i haven't tried mutual betting before now just created account on onehash. Will try my luck, found that even for some predictable games odds are better than sportsbook.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: NorrisK on January 19, 2017, 07:23:06 PM
I want to share with you my yesterdays and todays winnings with mutual betting system:

1. Real Madrid vs Celta Vigo (x 23.234) | https://www.onehash.com/event/football/copa_del_rey/33955

2. Novak Djokovic vs Denis Istomin (x 23.110) | https://www.onehash.com/event/tennis/australian_open_atp/35735

I'm a type of niggard gambler, I bet only in small amounts (but many events). Mutual betting is a perfect for this type of betting. I look for events with high multiplier and try my luck.

So i bet 0,0021 on Denis Istomin and earned 0,048531 and for Celta Vigo game  i made 0,0487914.


Not bad, right?

In terms of profit you got, yes it's really not bad and congrats.

Anyways it can't applied in most of the games. It's more risky as we all know that betting on really high odds for about a minimum of above @10 doesn't require any analyzations meaning you are relying on the luck alone which is the same principle when doing gambling at those house edge gambling games.

Even with small amount, if it will become a continous loss then it will become big someday. Well if that is effective to you then up to you if you will stick to that.

There should be a cutoff that even the worst players will win at some point.

And I bet 1:10 or more is still possible. If you are getting 20+ odds, I think it is worth throwing some change at it.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: philiveyjr on January 19, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
It all depends on your luck too. I generally bet on favs to win with some research being done on the game. So, in that case I wont be getting much better odds that any other sportsbook. You will be getting such odds only for teams that are really worse off of the opponents or if the odds on Favs are too low. So, in that case it all becomes witch hunting and just hoping it happens. Which is just not my style of betting.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: chaser15 on January 19, 2017, 08:14:19 PM
I want to share with you my yesterdays and todays winnings with mutual betting system:

1. Real Madrid vs Celta Vigo (x 23.234) | https://www.onehash.com/event/football/copa_del_rey/33955

2. Novak Djokovic vs Denis Istomin (x 23.110) | https://www.onehash.com/event/tennis/australian_open_atp/35735

I'm a type of niggard gambler, I bet only in small amounts (but many events). Mutual betting is a perfect for this type of betting. I look for events with high multiplier and try my luck.

So i bet 0,0021 on Denis Istomin and earned 0,048531 and for Celta Vigo game  i made 0,0487914.


Not bad, right?

In terms of profit you got, yes it's really not bad and congrats.

Anyways it can't applied in most of the games. It's more risky as we all know that betting on really high odds for about a minimum of above @10 doesn't require any analyzations meaning you are relying on the luck alone which is the same principle when doing gambling at those house edge gambling games.

Even with small amount, if it will become a continous loss then it will become big someday. Well if that is effective to you then up to you if you will stick to that.

There should be a cutoff that even the worst players will win at some point.

And I bet 1:10 or more is still possible. If you are getting 20+ odds, I think it is worth throwing some change at it.

If that is on basketball, I will not waste even a small money for 20+ odds. That is ridiculous. Line offered by that amount is really less chance to win for about 5%. Like for example, betting on Los Angeles Lakers will win Western Conference finals lol.

OP is just lucky and the game is tennis which is far less complicated compare to other sports that needs a deep analyzation before placing such bet.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: sonic212 on January 20, 2017, 01:16:54 AM
Oh those are insanely big odds, i haven't tried mutual betting before now just created account on onehash. Will try my luck, found that even for some predictable games odds are better than sportsbook.
I think the same gambling sites, there is a win there also lose depending on your luck on the day you play, if you play it the day you might lose no luck. does not mean you have to move to move the site to get a fortune or win continuously.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: eternalgloom on January 20, 2017, 02:22:06 AM
That's also how I personally gamble when I'm doing sportsbetting, I just don't find it interesting if the odds aren't high enough.
Sure, I lose more than I win but it's just much more fun that way :)


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 20, 2017, 02:30:22 AM
Congratulations on the win, but i think you just used your luck or maybe you really just fingercrossed. but the truth is, I also do this stuff on DotaLounge when i am betting in it, though i am not having a good luck and results. Though there we dont use Bitcoins or other cryptocurrency but items in that game too. Well that is really good and you must really keep up that braveness, hahaha. We dont know right? it can make you rich.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: LuanX3 on January 20, 2017, 02:32:51 AM
Those odds are high for a reason. Because it is highly unlikely they will not happen. yes it could happen but at a very low chance and by the time you get a win you probably used up all the money you won on your previous bets. It's like gambling on dice on very low chances of winning. You will win but a long time before you do.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: stadus on January 20, 2017, 02:34:29 AM
Nice profit, you could have bet a big amount on that. Prepare for the losing streak dude, don't think that will happen all time, you are just lucky that time and for sure if you will continue to do that method, in the long run you will not profit.

Anyway, I have to say congratulations, you did a great job.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: michkima on January 20, 2017, 02:43:15 AM
Nice profit, you could have bet a big amount on that. Prepare for the losing streak dude, don't think that will happen all time, you are just lucky that time and for sure if you will continue to do that method, in the long run you will not profit.

Anyway, I have to say congratulations, you did a great job.

Yeah and probably quit while you're a head. Don't tell us we didn't warn you. You weren't the first person who tried doing that strategy. You'll just end up losing everything in the end. I remember doing that in the 2016 Oscars. I bet on the ones with the highest payout. Well, let's just say Mad Max screwed me over that one. :D


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: novemberwoah on January 20, 2017, 03:53:43 AM
It was very good, you're betting on a greater odds and you have good luck so that it becomes a win. You bet on a small amount and get a win in large amounts, it is a safe way to get a win. I've also get profit as you on mutual betting system in Premier League, and it was so amazing because with the amount of small bets can get a win manifold.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bhadz on January 20, 2017, 04:04:28 AM
You surely have an extreme luck for betting with higher odds with smaller amount. I am the same gambler as you are because I usually don't bet big amount but it makes me jealous upon seeing your stats like that. It's making me crazy on how you did manage to have that luck, can you pass that luck to me?  ;D Congratulations to you I hope you are going to be lucky for so long.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bering on January 20, 2017, 04:36:23 AM
you're obviously lucky because very rarely to see Real Madrid lost against small teams and indeed the odds is very high but i think for long term this is not good options putting your money into those odds because the amount of your winning will be much less rather than your losses


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: BlockEye on January 20, 2017, 05:05:35 AM
if OP continues his strategy, i think it will end up on a break even because it took many bet to win on that kind of multiplier it is just like waiting of rain on summer, But i'm not discouraging the OP, but my point is you will lose tons of bet before you luckily hit that kind of bet odds. GL on your path. Maybe we are on opposite strategy.  ;D


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: LuanX3 on January 20, 2017, 05:09:45 AM
if OP continues his strategy, i think it will end up on a break even because it took many bet to win on that kind of multiplier it is just like waiting of rain on summer, But i'm not discouraging the OP, but my point is you will lose tons of bet before you luckily hit that kind of bet odds. GL on your path. Maybe we are on opposite strategy.  ;D

For sure man, he'll probably lose all those winnings he just got from luckily betting on those odds. He'll even probably lose more than what he'll win the next time he does win. There is little chance on winning in gambling if you're doing a strategic kind of gambling it will not end up well. What's better is to just analyze every game, that's a better strategy.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: ralle14 on January 21, 2017, 02:39:03 PM

If that is on basketball, I will not waste even a small money for 20+ odds. That is ridiculous. Line offered by that amount is really less chance to win for about 5%. Like for example, betting on Los Angeles Lakers will win Western Conference finals lol.

OP is just lucky and the game is tennis which is far less complicated compare to other sports that needs a deep analyzation before placing such bet.
Betting on outrights is different than betting on regular matches because you can only bet once a year/seasonal for outrights while for regular matches you could always go for underdogs and hope to hit those juicy odds.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bitcoinmaster44 on January 23, 2017, 03:14:04 PM
I don't bet on every game with biggest odds. I will not bet for San Marino against Germany even if the odds would be 50 x. I'm a sports fan, I follow all news etc.

My weekend results:

Andy Murray vs Michael Zverev x 11.962 | https://www.onehash.com/event/tennis/australian_open_atp/36857

So Andy Murray is winning almost everything from 2 - 3 months. There is always a moment in sports when your strike is stopped. I watched previous games of Zverev and he was playing very good and Murray doesn't like playing in hot temperatures .. so it happened

I'm just trying to prove that mutual betting system is better for betting for underdogs, because many people if they see "Barcelona", "Real Madrid", "Andy Murray" etc they just click "Bet" and don't check any statstics, current form of opponents and the odds are getting higher :)

I hope that I will have more examples. Of course I'm not always right - I lost 2 other bets during this weekend. But one win with odds >10 it's still on big plus!


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bitcoinmasterlord on January 23, 2017, 05:08:11 PM
I don't bet on every game with biggest odds. I will not bet for San Marino against Germany even if the odds would be 50 x. I'm a sports fan, I follow all news etc.

My weekend results:

Andy Murray vs Michael Zverev x 11.962 | https://www.onehash.com/event/tennis/australian_open_atp/36857

So Andy Murray is winning almost everything from 2 - 3 months. There is always a moment in sports when your strike is stopped. I watched previous games of Zverev and he was playing very good and Murray doesn't like playing in hot temperatures .. so it happened

I'm just trying to prove that mutual betting system is better for betting for underdogs, because many people if they see "Barcelona", "Real Madrid", "Andy Murray" etc they just click "Bet" and don't check any statstics, current form of opponents and the odds are getting higher :)

I hope that I will have more examples. Of course I'm not always right - I lost 2 other bets during this weekend. But one win with odds >10 it's still on big plus!
Good thinking, yes many sports betting gamblers will just check their past history, and if he or the team is strong and off course the odds also support always fav players and teams, so we will place a bet on them. But the fact is before placing any sports betting we have to check the recent performance of players or teams. Then only we can make a safe bet.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: Caladonian on January 24, 2017, 04:32:21 AM
if you also applied this with nba games for sure you also earn big today since almost all the favored team loses today's games, gsw defeated by heat big odds for that and rockets and cavs as well 3 favored teams with a high odds loses and if that has been added to your list for sure it is another celebration for you good job.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: BTCyuan$euro on January 24, 2017, 09:32:28 AM
OP I have tried your tactic yesterday: 2 bets won, 1 lost ... so very good. I have never tried mutual betting before, it's kind of fun.

I have won on NBA - Miami vs GSW: https://www.onehash.com/event/basketball/nba/16738  Odds were x 7,35 and Pelicans won against Cavs x 4.281

It would be nice to have option to sort events by highest odds. Do you think this is possible? I send request by mail to them  ;D

I see that today there is Copa del Rey game: Alaves vs  Alcorcon odds for now - x 14.938

Alaves won previous game 2:0, so Alcorcon will pressure to win and it's possible that they will win 0:1

What do you think ?


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: dollarbill$44 on January 24, 2017, 09:39:01 AM
OP I have tried your tactic yesterday: 2 bets won, 1 lost ... so very good. I have never tried mutual betting before, it's kind of fun.

I have won on NBA - Miami vs GSW: https://www.onehash.com/event/basketball/nba/16738  Odds were x 7,35 and Pelicans won against Cavs x 4.281

It would be nice to have option to sort events by highest odds. Do you think this is possible? I send request by mail to them  ;D

I see that today there is Copa del Rey game: Alaves vs  Alcorcon odds for now - x 14.938

Alaves won previous game 2:0, so Alcorcon will pressure to win and it's possible that they will win 0:1

What do you think ?

Congrats! In this game I will bet on draw :)


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bitcoinmaster44 on January 30, 2017, 02:06:05 PM
It was good week :) Specially in EFL Cup and FA Cup!

My bets won:

Liverpool vs Wolverhampton x 9.378 | https://www.onehash.com/event/football/fa_cup/32267

Man. United vs  Hull City x 8.010 | https://www.onehash.com/event/football/efl_cup/26489

Mutual betting <3


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: crwth on January 30, 2017, 07:13:59 PM
I will definitely keep this in mind when I try sports betting too. I haven't thought about making a strategy when playing with the odds during that. I'm trying to reflect on how I could make it profitable. It could be easier if you have knowledge of the sports you're trying to bet on, but it could also be interpreted as just numbers.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: FFrankie on January 30, 2017, 07:23:00 PM
How come you dont parlay any of your bets? If you would have for your OP you would have won 400X, and I see your posting your winning bets, but why don't you list all of your bets so we can see your return?


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: romero121 on January 31, 2017, 02:34:41 AM
At times it works getting good winning amount. Because for a player the odds will be very high and the opponent gets very low odds, only the luck is the factor which decides the winning in such matches. Mutual betting too cannot profit us depending upon strategy. Luck is much important else loss will be high than common betting.


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: dollarbill$44 on January 31, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
At times it works getting good winning amount. Because for a player the odds will be very high and the opponent gets very low odds, only the luck is the factor which decides the winning in such matches. Mutual betting too cannot profit us depending upon strategy. Luck is much important else loss will be high than common betting.

Without luck in betting you can't do anything  But it's true that in mutual betting odds for underdogs are much better than in normal betting. I look forward to Arsenal vs Watford game, odds for now on Watfrod are 16.015 on this OneHash site


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bitcoinmaster44 on February 01, 2017, 03:12:04 PM
So you said that odds are worst in mutual betting? Best example is yesterdays game: Arsenal vs Watford https://www.onehash.com/event/football/premier_league/10881


Odds on Nitrogen:

Arsenal 1.221
Watford 14,050
Draw  7,30

Odds on OneHash (mutual betting system)

Arsenal 1,122
Watford 20.231
Draw 8,911

Thank you OneHash.com for the best odds <3 another day, another win :)


Title: Re: Why I have switched to mutual betting and why you should too!
Post by: bur4n on October 23, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
So you said that odds are worst in mutual betting? Best example is yesterdays game: Arsenal vs Watford https://www.onehash.com/event/football/premier_league/10881


Odds on Nitrogen:

Arsenal 1.221
Watford 14,050
Draw  7,30

Odds on OneHash (mutual betting system)

Arsenal 1,122
Watford 20.231
Draw 8,911

Thank you OneHash.com for the best odds <3 another day, another win :)

I know it's an old topic, but I'm very curious:

@bitcoinmaster44 - did you continue your winning streak? Still considering mutual betting as your thing?