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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/19/in-final-act-as-president-obama-commutes-330-drug-sentences.html


I guess Ross' hideous crime of maintaining a website, hence getting life in prison, was a more hideous crime than what the 568 lifers did which Obama has now pardoned, giving them a second chance, eh?

Here's a challenge: Name one, JUST ONE, of the 1,715 criminals which Obama granted clemency to who committed a lesser crime than what Ross Ulbricht did.

FWIW, at least as President, Trump will send Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman back to Mexico to serve out his sentence there in a secure prison where, perhaps, El Chapo will be put on shovel duty.

El Guardo: What is your dirt doing in Boss José's yard?
El Chapo: Sorry, boss.
El Guardo: I'll overlook it for now. Meanwhile, here's a better shovel.
El Chapo: Thank you, boss. BTW, how many more ...
El Guardo: Thirty more feet thataway, and make sure you don't hit the water main.

outrageous, but hardly surprising.

is there a list of those who did get pardoned & their crimes?

Thanks to John McCain (https://www.rt.com/op-edge/374111-mccain-report-trump-wrong/) not blocking my access to Google here in Arizona (else would've had to travel across the river to Nevada), mes found it: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons

This one's interesting: http://www.post-gazette.com/local/west/2010/12/04/Obama-pardons-Beaver-Falls-coin-felon/stories/201012040202

Isn't Mexico El chapo's country and we all know how corrupt some of the officials there. He won't get a shovel to dug but an umbrella and a glass of fresh coconut juice and a semi nude lady on the other side. He cross the border, he stays for life behind the walls.

By the way RawDog created similar thread about this the other day.

It's no wonder in my opinion. Obama might have had a light hearted approach when it comes to drug use and hence why he pardoned some cases but that doesn't really mean that you could count on him for more controversial decisions. Ulbricht was regarded by the media as the kingpin of an online marketplace that sold illegal goods, things much further than just drugs.

Ross William Ulbricht is a martyr for personal liberty. In the near future, he will be revered as one of the most courageous humans in the world and will be rewarded for his troubles. Those who imprisoned him will become the most hated people.

found this -

Remember the drug dealers Obongo pardoned?

4 OF THEM WERE CARTEL LEADERS

>ROMA, Texas — Four family members who ran one of the largest cartel smuggling operations in south Texas had their life in prison sentences commuted and will likely be returning to this border city from where they ran their criminal empire. One of the main destinations that the criminal organizations delivered drugs to was Chicago, Illinois.

>This week, outgoing President Barack Obama commuted the sentences of 209 convicted criminals and pardoned 64 others. The majority of the convictions were from drug trafficking or production offenses.

>Four of those convicted criminals who had been sentenced to life in prison will be released by May 17. They ran a criminal organization made up of close to 80 men and women who worked with Mexico’s Gulf Cartel to move between 100,000 to almost 750,000 pounds of marijuana into the U.S. during a 10-year period. The drugs were moved into Houston and then distributed to Atlanta, Chicago, and other major metropolitan areas.

>According to court records obtained by Breitbart Texas, brothers Cesar Moreno Sr., Eduardo Moreno, Lazaro Moreno, and Luis Moreno along with other relatives and friends had been at the helm of a large-scale drug distribution operation based out of the border city of Roma, Texas. 

>The area has long been one of he main distribution lines used by Mexico’s Gulf Cartel to get large quantities of marijuana into the U.S. due to the remoteness of the area, lacking physical barriers, and police resources–not to mention the complicity of various law enforcement officials.

>In the case of the Moreno brothers, the groups invested heavily in real state and the used car business to launder millions in drug proceeds.

According to the FBI, Ulbricht ordered and paid for up to six assassinations against users of the site, which was suspected of theft and blackmail (no murders had been committed, at least one of the performers was a showpiece in his role by the Federal agent. Not like he is a prisoner of conscience.

All rhetoric. The guards in the prison will be El Chapo's body guards.

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Ah, yes, Curtis Green: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62129

In case you missed my thread on this lyin' piece of shit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045937.0

And somehow none of the alleged assassins were caught and prosecuted, if not for an attempted murder, then maybe for a scam and theft. Of course since none of them were caught there was no testifying. I'm guessing the only evidence of this assassinations are emails between him and some people who posed as hitmen and I don't think this is enough to sentence someone to life of living in a cage, like a monkey.

I think he should be free.

Unlike some of the pardoned prisoners, he's just an innocent bystander  :(

I'm not so sure. To my knowledge there was sent by special agents of the FBI and everything was documented. People who are sentenced to such long terms are not innocent. He gets a pardon.

That's my point as well, he wasn't maintaining or operating a website selling candy, and he wasn't that innocent person as well, not that the other inmates are better. but I guess you can't be saying he is innocent..

Selling drugs that kill people some other way. They killed more people than the bloodiest serial killer. I think he got a decent sentence. If it depends from me I would all the drug dealers were put in the electric chair.

Giving all the drug dealers the chair, would wipe out the medical.    8)

Free Ross, Free El Chapo.
I mean, all they did was sell drugs and murder people right? If you are pardoning the Moreno brothers these guys did nothing worse.

I want a Mad Max world now, not it twenty years. Lets get this party started!
Free all the criminals, give guns to everyone and lets shoot it out.
(Que Wild Wild West by Will Smith.)

Most of the people in prison haven't harmed anyone. But, even if they did, even more of them were put their by illegal prosecution methods. The smarter criminals are in Government. They know how to do the bad stuff, and not get put into prison (most of the time). Most of the time, Government people are simply making money, often by eliminating the competition.

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You're such a pussyhat for not citing Hillary Clinton as an example.  :P :P :P <-- Huma Mahmood Abedin's clit lickin' tongue.

He's the poster boy for something the government detests the idea of. he'd be the last person to get a pardon no matter who was the president.

Then let's start a grassroots movement to have Ross' sentence commuted to time served plus. I'll get out the knitting needles and start knitting a ... what should we knit now that pussyhats has already been done?

an alpaca 'No! No! Naughty Nate' butt protection plug

Ulbright deserves prison just for being stupid enough to give interviews while running the biggest online drug planet.  Then holding all his Bitcoins [600k] on his laptop while playing on the internets from the local library.  What an epic idiot.  The Feds really picked the perfect useful idiot to "put in charge". 

Besides, if you free Ross-boy then you gotta free El Pancho and that guy got greedy and cut too much into the fed's dope routes.  That's a big no-no. 

It is not the drug dealers who are killing people. All these people would still be alive, had the government legalized the drugs and made them available through licensed shops. Do you even know that the number of people killed as a result of the "war on drugs" in Mexico is 1,000 times higher than the number of people who die of drug overdose every year in the United States?

Unfortunately I didn't manage to find any life sentence in the list of pardons, so it's hard to compare to Ulbricht's case. As far as I remeber he ordered murders and torture operating the largest online drug market in the world at the same time, so considering to pardon him was a tough call.

Jesus motherfuckin' Christ! I had to put on my underwear and swim the Colorado River to Nevada so to Google given that you, too, don't have access, hence the helping hand on my part.

Full list of 64 individuals pardoned and 209 sentences commuted by President Obama: http://wgntv.com/2017/01/17/full-list-of-64-individuals-pardoned-and-209-sentences-commuted-by-president-obama/


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