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Title: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: philggg on January 20, 2017, 03:57:09 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: hexitor on January 20, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
I do not think that Donald TRUMP is better that very opposite Barack Obama these projects do not stand and are almost impossible. No but seriously. How want to oblige yourselves Mexicans has to build a wall ?


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: yuiyuga on January 20, 2017, 06:26:42 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama
Obama was a weak President. He believed that it is easier to slowly come to the target quickly but with the victims. I am sure that America's relationship with Russia under President Trump will be more intense. Perhaps even the war in Syria.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: AleSergio on January 20, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
Depends on relationships that he will have with Russia, if it would be good ones, than we can enjoy time of progress and peace =)


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Karloff on January 20, 2017, 06:40:22 PM
Depends on relationships that he will have with Russia, if it would be good ones, than we can enjoy time of progress and peace =)
Russia has always been an enemy of America. Obama has weakened the economy of Russia. Why is Trump to save Russia? He left a little bit to break the resistance of Russia will cease to pose a threat to the entire world.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: HabBear on January 20, 2017, 09:18:03 PM
No, he won't.

And let's all remember how well the economy, employment, medical coverage, and safety of America stands today. I hope things continue to improve. And I only believe the reduction in taxes will improve the already-solid economic standing most people are in right now.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: tracktorr on January 20, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
No, he won't.

And let's all remember how well the economy, employment, medical coverage, and safety of America stands today. I hope things continue to improve. And I only believe the reduction in taxes will improve the already-solid economic standing most people are in right now.
And where will you get the money for medicine if you are going to lower taxes? Trump just wants thus to evade responsibility for what he did not pay taxes. Only this does not mean that he will succeed. I don't believe him.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: HabBear on January 20, 2017, 10:01:56 PM
No, he won't.

And let's all remember how well the economy, employment, medical coverage, and safety of America stands today. I hope things continue to improve. And I only believe the reduction in taxes will improve the already-solid economic standing most people are in right now.
And where will you get the money for medicine if you are going to lower taxes? Trump just wants thus to evade responsibility for what he did not pay taxes. Only this does not mean that he will succeed. I don't believe him.

That's a good question, but right now the US government doesn't pay much for medicine. Each individual person pays for their healthcare needs, either in premiums to a health insurance company or in direct expenses.

Lowering taxes for all will free up capital with each family to spend, save, and invest (in the market or new businesses/enterprises). All of these things increase economic activity, which is a critical factor (for right or for wrong) in evaluating a president's success in office.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: olushakes on January 20, 2017, 10:02:35 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

I guess its still early for predictions about who will outshine the other and the same time issues about performance is always subjective to the person making the rating. The Obama that is being used as a yardstick for Trump by OP no matter what he does in his eight years to some people, he has just being there on vacation and completely wasted eight years of his life and the same thing will happen Trump when he will be dropping power for another person to take over.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: ovvidiy on January 20, 2017, 10:08:59 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

I guess its still early for predictions about who will outshine the other and the same time issues about performance is always subjective to the person making the rating. The Obama that is being used as a yardstick for Trump by OP no matter what he does in his eight years to some people, he has just being there on vacation and completely wasted eight years of his life and the same thing will happen Trump when he will be dropping power for another person to take over.
I always worry that it is not possible to retract your vote. Wouldn't it be great if politicians knew that if they don't fulfill their promises deceived the people can withdraw their votes and he will lose his power early


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: st0nefish on January 20, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
I think Trump will be better than Obama. I especially think that it will reduce the ongoing tension with Russia since the Cold War. But what I wonder about is the politics of the mea.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: margarete11 on January 20, 2017, 11:32:46 PM
I belive he was since his time of election the economy of of United states become better and better and also I belive he will not be elected as a president if the people of the United didn't think that he has good plans for the betterment of the country


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: criptix on January 20, 2017, 11:34:36 PM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.



Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on January 21, 2017, 12:01:06 AM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.


Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved.  THEY got it!"


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: machinek20 on January 21, 2017, 12:07:14 AM
Form the background and history, and all of his act, i dont think Trump can be better than Obama, but that is just history, who knows Trump can think of something innovative way to save US from the economics crisis, despite his act was inappropriate, he is a good entrepreneur


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: LTU_btc on January 21, 2017, 12:40:19 AM
Trump is unpredictable and we don't know what expect from him. He is very different than all previous presidents of USA and he don't have political experience. If he being president will act same like on his Twitter, I don't expect nothing positive. And his speech on inauguration ceremony was really populistical.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: shintosai on January 21, 2017, 12:45:48 AM
He's statement can be a big factor if he can deliver it making America in top of he's priority i just dont know how this will effect other country which also depending on them, if this are good or bad we never knew we just wait and see how he can deliver.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: criptix on January 21, 2017, 01:32:41 AM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.


Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved.  THEY got it!"

Calling for the execution of snowden nuff said.

Byebye free spech. Long live the shadow goverment and illegal surveillance.

More fluoride for the sheeples.

 :)


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: maku on January 21, 2017, 01:38:31 AM
Only time will tell how good Trump will be. There is no need to speculate about this now. We need to avoid jumping to conclusions too fast.
General public made this mistake with Obama - he received Peace Nobel Prize for nothing, soon after he became a POTUS. It was a huge misplay.
I don't want to see similar situation happened with Trump, don't bash or glorify him yet, wait for his actions to judge him.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: tippytoes on January 21, 2017, 01:55:43 AM
I believe Trump will outperform Obama.

He is a successful entrepreneur so he knows the master plan.

He doesn't need money anymore. If someone bribes him, he will just be ashamed of himself for offering that to him.

He wants to prove that he can "make America great again!" So he will execute everything what is needed. No delays. No excuses.

I surmise then that, Trump decided to be the US Pres. to leave a legacy before he vanishes in this world.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: zuyfg888 on January 21, 2017, 03:42:40 AM
As we all see, Trump is just like other democratic president, who is one that dictates. We need to know first what is his true idea, or plan. What he will be going to be his plans for his new rules. We should know what kind of president he is, before judging himself, we should respect Obama.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: andrei56 on January 21, 2017, 03:42:46 AM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama
Taking into account Obama did not do much then I do not think surpassing Obama should be too hard as long as he is willing to to work hard for the American people.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Iegion on January 21, 2017, 04:23:57 AM
Trump will be better than Obama, because it's going to be hard to rack up more debt than Obama.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: novemberwoah on January 21, 2017, 05:38:08 AM
I do not know for sure whether Trump would lead better than Obama, but I am sure there will be many policies of Trump very controversial. But I am very confident in the economic and insurance Trump would be better than Obama. Many Small Medium Enterprises who said Trump policies will positively impact their business. Because the tax reform policy, the protection of the national economy, and deregulation Trump makes sense and promises to restore the American economy plight under the Obama regime.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: mazhar on January 21, 2017, 10:11:19 AM
Trump will lead America to the end


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Xester on January 21, 2017, 11:07:30 AM
There are no perfect president, they both have strengths and weaknesses. Obamas strength is on how he deals with the nations affair including maintaining good relationships with other countries but his weakness is on the economy. Trump on the other hand is a businessman and has wide knowledge on economics and on finance, he will surely make Americas economy strong again but it is not clear if he will also play good on the other sectors of the society.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Trenz on January 21, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
With these speech he delivered earlier, I see lots of potential in Trump holding up every American's dream of 'making America great again'. Let's all hope he does so with his powers!

In comparison to Obama, I think he will be able to outperform him rather easily with what he sees for his country.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Karloff on January 21, 2017, 12:33:31 PM
With these speech he delivered earlier, I see lots of potential in Trump holding up every American's dream of 'making America great again'. Let's all hope he does so with his powers!

In comparison to Obama, I think he will be able to outperform him rather easily with what he sees for his country.
And I think that all that is said, Trump is a fairy tale for voters. How is he going to make America great, without a foreign policy. In a global world can not do without allies, and that means he's either an idiot or just lying


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Daniel91 on January 21, 2017, 12:40:51 PM
In my opinion, President Obama was great US president.
He started ObamaCare program which helped a lot Americans to have health care for the first time.
He also received Nobel prize for peace.
He rebuild American economy and saved nation from bankruptcy.
He also kept his promise to leave Iraq and Afghanistan.
Can Trump become better US president?
Honestly, I don't think that Trump can do more than Obama, no way.



Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Karloff on January 21, 2017, 12:47:40 PM
In my opinion, President Obama was great US president.
He started ObamaCare program which helped a lot Americans to have health care for the first time.
He also received Nobel prize for peace.
He rebuild American economy and saved nation from bankruptcy.
He also kept his promise to leave Iraq and Afghanistan.
Can Trump become better US president?
Honestly, I don't think that Trump can do more than Obama, no way.


I don't think Trump will be able to compete with Obama. For this he is not smart enough. But he has more determination than Obama. It might help him to deal with America's enemies abroad.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sahyadri on January 21, 2017, 12:57:29 PM
Trump will be a more realistic President then what Obama was and what Hillary would have been.

Look at the mess Obama and Hillary duo created in Syria.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Klima on January 21, 2017, 01:11:54 PM
Trump will be a more realistic President then what Obama was and what Hillary would have been.

Look at the mess Obama and Hillary duo created in Syria.
Obama was a good President. Position in Syria, I think that is its only drawback. The United States lost to the opposition in Syria Russian because of the indecision of Obama. I hope trump will fix this error.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: mainpmf on January 21, 2017, 01:19:11 PM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.


Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved.  THEY got it!"

You know that we can criticize Trump without wishing for Hitlery right? --'

Trump is shit.
Hillary is shit.
Happy now?

It's not because it's not the expected corruption that we're going to appreciate this one...


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on January 21, 2017, 01:23:49 PM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.


Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved.  THEY got it!"

You know that we can criticize Trump without wishing for Hitlery right? --'

Trump is shit.
Hillary is shit.
Happy now?

It's not because it's not the expected corruption that we're going to appreciate this one...

From the ashes of the Democratic party and the Republican party this monster arose.  Now we've got it, and wonder what it will do and how it will act.  Will it be a friendly monster?

Lol...


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Klima on January 21, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.


Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved.  THEY got it!"

You know that we can criticize Trump without wishing for Hitlery right? --'

Trump is shit.
Hillary is shit.
Happy now?

It's not because it's not the expected corruption that we're going to appreciate this one...

From the ashes of the Democratic party and the Republican party this monster arose.  Now we've got it, and wonder what it will do and how it will act.  Will it be a friendly monster?

Lol...
Don't be fooled. To confirm your slogan "let's Make America great" Trump the need to show strength. So it won't be weird, it will be a monster. I think that now he will be looking for a small victorious war.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: mainpmf on January 21, 2017, 01:37:04 PM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.


Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved.  THEY got it!"

You know that we can criticize Trump without wishing for Hitlery right? --'

Trump is shit.
Hillary is shit.
Happy now?

It's not because it's not the expected corruption that we're going to appreciate this one...

From the ashes of the Democratic party and the Republican party this monster arose.  Now we've got it, and wonder what it will do and how it will act.  Will it be a friendly monster?

Lol...

To Europe... Quite.
To Americans... xD
Well I'm happy Trump passed. I feel like Americans should pay for their mistakes.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Suporthe on January 21, 2017, 02:10:39 PM
The new swearing ceremony and the new president I did not listen to all of his talk. I like that part of you talking alone. Before I say the part that I like, I can clarify the dawn. Yes several groups are influencing the selection of the US presidential election. Only there is a situation here, these groups can sometimes change purely according to the breeze wind. The dirty and dark groups that support the republicans in the past can support democrats when they come to work. Groups advocating the neocon philosophy supported hillary clinton in this election. I always defend hillary clinton not to be elected because of the dark groups behind it.

The neoconservative philosophy is based on the idea of ​​imposing American values ​​on other countries and people. Yes it is the product of the confusion that started with the operation in Iraq in 1991 and escalated with the complete destruction of Iraq in 2003 and splashed in other countries under the name of arab bahar, because of the confusion in the world and especially in the Middle East. The democrats did this by dropping people together without sending a soldier. My favorite part of Trump's speech is; It is a saying that we will not force American values ​​on people. Contrary to neoconservative philosophy, that other states will not dictate American values. And we are going to bring America into such a state that they will like themselves to us. To sign this promise. I think that is one of the most important reasons for the black propaganda made to him. Do what you say, the world breathes a little.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 21, 2017, 02:31:38 PM
Trump will lead America to the end

I think that, Trump is on his way on process only, we all know that he is a new for his position, a lot of agenda, ideas, plan and strategies will be to be conducted, we all see that Trump is dictator, but we can predict will be his plan for being newly elected president? it will be worse? or it will benefits all?


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on January 21, 2017, 04:18:47 PM
IMO, Trump will be better than Obama, for the US citizens. For factory workers and cops, his election is a very good news. And for the illegal immigrants living in California and Texas, I am not that sure. If he keeps his word by deporting all of them, then they need to search for new jobs in Mexico.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on January 21, 2017, 05:46:10 PM
IMO, Trump will be better than Obama, for the US citizens. For factory workers and cops, his election is a very good news. And for the illegal immigrants living in California and Texas, I am not that sure. If he keeps his word by deporting all of them, then they need to search for new jobs in Mexico.
Of the many illegal immigrants I know only one is worried about being deported. 

Trump will lead America to the end

I think that, Trump is on his way on process only, we all know that he is a new for his position, a lot of agenda, ideas, plan and strategies will be to be conducted, we all see that Trump is dictator, but we can predict will be his plan for being newly elected president? it will be worse? or it will benefits all?
No we do not all see that.  We see the would-be dictator that just peacefully left office, and we see the wanna-be dictator Hillary that people rejected.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: ovvidiy on January 21, 2017, 05:59:38 PM
IMO, Trump will be better than Obama, for the US citizens. For factory workers and cops, his election is a very good news. And for the illegal immigrants living in California and Texas, I am not that sure. If he keeps his word by deporting all of them, then they need to search for new jobs in Mexico.
Of the many illegal immigrants I know only one is worried about being deported. 

Trump will lead America to the end

I think that, Trump is on his way on process only, we all know that he is a new for his position, a lot of agenda, ideas, plan and strategies will be to be conducted, we all see that Trump is dictator, but we can predict will be his plan for being newly elected president? it will be worse? or it will benefits all?
No we do not all see that.  We see the would-be dictator that just peacefully left office, and we see the wanna-be dictator Hillary that people rejected.
Do not tell anyone! Enough of that clown trump all laugh. If Obama is a dictator then who is Trump? Look at his rhetoric! It's dictator and unfortunately this dictator has long been out of his mind.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: gabmen on January 21, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
Well let's face it. Trump has a very large shoe to fill with how obama was president. Though i'm looking forward to hiw he will handle international relatiins and the middle east issue with terrorists. I like what he says that the focus should mainly be with americans. I think obama spent too much funds bombing some middle eastern coutries, funds that could have been used for betterment of american citizens.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on January 21, 2017, 07:16:28 PM
IMO, Trump will be better than Obama, for the US citizens. For factory workers and cops, his election is a very good news. And for the illegal immigrants living in California and Texas, I am not that sure. If he keeps his word by deporting all of them, then they need to search for new jobs in Mexico.
Of the many illegal immigrants I know only one is worried about being deported. 

Trump will lead America to the end

I think that, Trump is on his way on process only, we all know that he is a new for his position, a lot of agenda, ideas, plan and strategies will be to be conducted, we all see that Trump is dictator, but we can predict will be his plan for being newly elected president? it will be worse? or it will benefits all?
No we do not all see that.  We see the would-be dictator that just peacefully left office, and we see the wanna-be dictator Hillary that people rejected.
Do not tell anyone! Enough of that clown trump all laugh. .....
umm....yea....okay...clown...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0Rjc6jKCg


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Oggy1987 on January 21, 2017, 09:29:32 PM
I believe Trump will outperform Obama.

He is a successful entrepreneur so he knows the master plan.

He doesn't need money anymore. If someone bribes him, he will just be ashamed of himself for offering that to him.

He wants to prove that he can "make America great again!" So he will execute everything what is needed. No delays. No excuses.

I surmise then that, Trump decided to be the US Pres. to leave a legacy before he vanishes in this world.

I wish that was true. From my experience those kind of people get more greedy over years. The more they have - the more they want. He will act like a dictator, but we'll see if they will let him. There are many people and lobbies that have too much interest in their business to let some Trump or anybody ruin it for them.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on January 21, 2017, 10:52:48 PM
I believe Trump will outperform Obama.

He is a successful entrepreneur so he knows the master plan.

He doesn't need money anymore. If someone bribes him, he will just be ashamed of himself for offering that to him.

He wants to prove that he can "make America great again!" So he will execute everything what is needed. No delays. No excuses.

I surmise then that, Trump decided to be the US Pres. to leave a legacy before he vanishes in this world.

I wish that was true. From my experience those kind of people get more greedy over years. The more they have - the more they want. He will act like a dictator, but we'll see if they will let him. There are many people and lobbies that have too much interest in their business to let some Trump or anybody ruin it for them.

Ya mean, like George Soros?

Meanwhile, in the real world, all Trump did is build buildings and resorts that people wanted to go to.

Lol....


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Docnaster on January 22, 2017, 01:34:16 PM
I can't really tell if Trump can overdo Obama. Obama was a very great president for me, not only in his words but through his actions. I think that Obama has a clean record and that he made a lot of accomplishments for the United States. I think the people really loved Obama for him being a servant to his people, I would say that would be really tough to beat.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Oggy1987 on January 22, 2017, 04:56:49 PM
I believe Trump will outperform Obama.

He is a successful entrepreneur so he knows the master plan.

He doesn't need money anymore. If someone bribes him, he will just be ashamed of himself for offering that to him.

He wants to prove that he can "make America great again!" So he will execute everything what is needed. No delays. No excuses.

I surmise then that, Trump decided to be the US Pres. to leave a legacy before he vanishes in this world.

I wish that was true. From my experience those kind of people get more greedy over years. The more they have - the more they want. He will act like a dictator, but we'll see if they will let him. There are many people and lobbies that have too much interest in their business to let some Trump or anybody ruin it for them.

Ya mean, like George Soros?

Meanwhile, in the real world, all Trump did is build buildings and resorts that people wanted to go to.

Lol....

Soros if you want. I got many other in my country that were successful businessmen, with enough money to provide for generations. And since they join politics they saw opportunity to make even more money with help of corruption. But as Trump is legally elected president, he deserves a chance, I cant trash talk him without evidence.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: yoseph on January 22, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
Hell yeah Obama is a disgrace to the whole world, His agenda of change brought no change whatsoever except bad relationships with the Russians. Trump will make America great again and eliminate ISIS, which Obama did nothing about.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: BCEmporium on January 22, 2017, 11:45:31 PM
Up to so far, Trump is a perfect mystery to me.
The absurd amount of counter-information and nazi-like behavior from its opponents, alongside with his childish insistence in using Tweeter makes it all foggy.
So far he managed to do a "press overflow" up to a point where press totally lost credibility, and we can see that at Hillary's campaign; they totally failed on provide reasons to vote FOR her, because they were only thinking on finding reasons to vote AGAINST Trump... didn't work out.

Let's see what comes along!


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on January 23, 2017, 01:51:38 AM
Up to so far, Trump is a perfect mystery to me.
The absurd amount of counter-information and nazi-like behavior from its opponents, alongside with his childish insistence in using Tweeter makes it all foggy.
So far he managed to do a "press overflow" up to a point where press totally lost credibility, and we can see that at Hillary's campaign; they totally failed on provide reasons to vote FOR her, because they were only thinking on finding reasons to vote AGAINST Trump... didn't work out.

Let's see what comes along!
My personal opinion exactly.  I'm just not sure who should be buying the beer.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: jackydm168 on January 23, 2017, 04:05:48 AM
Trump Be Obama feels he is clever, to develop their own to maintain American hegemony in the world, and Obama is to curb someone to maintain the American hegemony in the world, is the law of development of the world who is strong who is the overlord of the world, who is not the way who is the overlord of the world.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on January 23, 2017, 04:39:00 AM
Hell yeah Obama is a disgrace to the whole world, His agenda of change brought no change whatsoever except bad relationships with the Russians. Trump will make America great again and eliminate ISIS, which Obama did nothing about.

The policies of Obama gave rise to the ISIS. Hillary Clnton was instrumental in providing the ISIS with funds and weapons, through the American proxies such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia. It will be tough for Trump to reverse the pro-ISIS policies of Obama.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: runningm520 on January 23, 2017, 06:17:57 AM
Trump Be Obama is much more interesting, the world needs such leaders


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: jstern on January 23, 2017, 06:47:42 AM
Obama has the advantage in that he inherited shit. How much longer can the number of jobs being created continue, for example. If it stops and reverse, it will look bad.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: joebrook on January 23, 2017, 10:12:33 AM
Well he better or else he is going to be a 1 term President.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on January 23, 2017, 10:41:40 AM
Well he better or else he is going to be a 1 term President.

Obama was probably the worst president in the history of the United States, and yet he managed to win the presidential elections for a second time in 2012. Performance doesn't matter much in the US, as long as you don't alienate your core supporters.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Periodik on January 23, 2017, 10:51:39 AM
Maybe. I hope Trump will destroy the US versus Russia mindset.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: joebrook on January 23, 2017, 10:56:35 AM
I don't know why Obama was trying to pick a fight with Russia after they lost the election, The Dems were sore losers and wanted to blame someone and they had themselves to blame had they not schemed against Bernie.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Edraket31 on January 23, 2017, 11:20:52 AM
They have lots of differences let us just example how they treat their wives, Obama is much gentleman and obviously he loves his wife so much, I am touched by the way he takes care of his wife unlike Trump. But, with leadership I know that Obama is really the good one, strict but he loves his country while Trump is focusing in business growth.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on January 23, 2017, 11:29:24 AM
I don't know why Obama was trying to pick a fight with Russia after they lost the election, The Dems were sore losers and wanted to blame someone and they had themselves to blame had they not schemed against Bernie.

The Dems never expected that they will lose their elections. They thought that Donald Trump was not a serious contender. The oligarchs and the corporations poured in billions of USD in to the Hillary campaign, hoping to get 10X ROI once she gets elected. Despite this, she lost the election. Now the Dems must either refund their donations, or invent some fairy tale excuse. The donations can't be reimbursed, as they are already spent. So the easiest option is to invent some excuse such as the Russian hacking.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: JC btc on January 23, 2017, 12:12:23 PM
I am not a US citizen but I am hoping and praying that Donald won't be like Obama, I am praying that Trump would be one of the best President in the world since I really admire him in what he achieve so far in his life, it doesn't matter whenever he is woman lover as long as he can support his country as well as bitcoin.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Kibbbis on January 23, 2017, 01:19:32 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

hmm donald trump.. i think lets give him time to show what he can do before we can compare who has better governance


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: saqibmunir on January 23, 2017, 02:43:50 PM
iam not citizen of united state but being a muslim i have to say that as i have listen his speeches against muslim and hatred against them and his statements like he don't allow muslims to enter united stated thats bother me and my fellow muslims alot about muslim and from my point of views obama is better than bush and hope so trump will change his toughts about muslims are performed better for his country and establish peace in the whole world......


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: mindrust on January 23, 2017, 02:58:22 PM
He said that he is going to reduce corporate taxes from 35% to 15% or 17% (i read %17 in some places)

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-17/trump-the-tax-reformer

This only creates a huge impact on international companies and it is a very very very shit situation for the emerging market countries. It is almost like declaring a war, not an actual one, but a financial one.

In almost all of speeches he is talking about economics. Talking about the trades with China, Germany, Japan. He is trying to boost American companies.

I'm not American but i see a true patriot here. He always speak directly what he thinks, i like that too. Nothing sneaky.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: criptix on January 23, 2017, 03:01:21 PM
He said that he is going to reduce corporate taxes from 35% to 15% or 17% (i read %17 in some places)

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-17/trump-the-tax-reformer

This only creates a huge impact on international companies and it is a very very very shit situation for the emerging market countries. It is almost like declaring a war not an actual one, but a financial one.

In almost all of speeches he is talking about economics. Talking about trades with China, Germany, Japan. He is trying to boost American companies.

I'm not American but i see a true patriot here. He always speak directly what he thinks, i like that too. Nothing sneaky.

I dont remember 100% but didnt the g8/g20 said in 2015 they wont use corporate tax reduction ( aka tax haven tactics) to get corporations moving to your nation?!


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: The_prodigy on January 23, 2017, 03:17:22 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama
Trump is like our president he has sense of humor and always talk like a shit! too but not all the times but i don't believed that trump can make america great again, And he will destroy america for sure this is only my thought im not u.s citezen but i always watch news and read about trump news.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: joebrook on January 23, 2017, 03:24:43 PM
The USA is a capitalist country, The whole country is a business enterprise and I think its high time a business man run the country, One who knows how to make deals just like Trump. Am not surprised most of Trumps cabinet are made out of Business Minded people. He is definitely gonna succeed.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Oggy1987 on January 23, 2017, 06:52:17 PM
He as a businessman have a chance to show what he can do. 28 million small businesses in America account for 54% of all U.S. sales, with giving them more space to grow, like smaller taxes, easier paperwork etc. it can be very positive for US economy. I just wonder what he will do with healthcare, every human being should have decent healthcare, and not to make you bancrupt if something goes wrong.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Seccerius on January 23, 2017, 07:06:45 PM
He as a businessman have a chance to show what he can do. 28 million small businesses in America account for 54% of all U.S. sales, with giving them more space to grow, like smaller taxes, easier paperwork etc. it can be very positive for US economy. I just wonder what he will do with healthcare, every human being should have decent healthcare, and not to make you bancrupt if something goes wrong.
Everyone is saying that Trump is a businessman, and someone saw him return? It seems to me that he is not so much a businessman how much a showman. Maybe he just cheated to come to power.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Oggy1987 on January 23, 2017, 07:55:57 PM
He as a businessman have a chance to show what he can do. 28 million small businesses in America account for 54% of all U.S. sales, with giving them more space to grow, like smaller taxes, easier paperwork etc. it can be very positive for US economy. I just wonder what he will do with healthcare, every human being should have decent healthcare, and not to make you bancrupt if something goes wrong.
Everyone is saying that Trump is a businessman, and someone saw him return? It seems to me that he is not so much a businessman how much a showman. Maybe he just cheated to come to power.

First he is businessman, then showman. I would say showman is his characteristic, but you cant deny that he has a successful empire. Other thing is that he had big starting capital, and that he surely saved some money successfully swimming in tax "grey" zones.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: SphynX18 on January 23, 2017, 10:20:59 PM
I think PTrump will perform better in other aspects than PObama but he will not get to the level of respect PObama gained during his term.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: johnny11011 on January 24, 2017, 03:36:31 AM
Trump not only in the internal affairs, in foreign policy, but also with the Obama administration "contrary", in the end who is powerful, time will prove everything.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on January 24, 2017, 08:29:07 AM
I think PTrump will perform better in other aspects than PObama but he will not get to the level of respect PObama gained during his term.

Right now, the Americans badly need a president who will perform, and not someone who is good only for showoff. That should be the case, even if it means alienating some of the most trusted allies.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: btcmylove on January 24, 2017, 08:50:02 AM
U.S. President Trump signed a presidential decree, announced that the United States formally withdraw from the Pan Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP). This will be the first major measures taken by the Trump administration in foreign affairs, former president Obama will lead to years of effort cast to waste. Trump's decision to withdraw from the TPP is also the first step in the new government's "American priority" policy, and also indicates a shift in foreign policy that will fundamentally change economic and foreign policy.Perhaps, compared to Obama, trump will have different performance.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Periodik on January 24, 2017, 09:12:09 AM
U.S. President Trump signed a presidential decree, announced that the United States formally withdraw from the Pan Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP). This will be the first major measures taken by the Trump administration in foreign affairs, former president Obama will lead to years of effort cast to waste. Trump's decision to withdraw from the TPP is also the first step in the new government's "American priority" policy, and also indicates a shift in foreign policy that will fundamentally change economic and foreign policy.Perhaps, compared to Obama, trump will have different performance.

That was fast. So let's see how these countries will react. I don't think US joined the group without benefits. Or maybe the plan didn't perform according to US expectations.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: canah17 on January 24, 2017, 09:54:36 AM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

Well this is one interesting topic and its very awesome to share about my ideas on who will be better at being the president of the United States of America so i would begin with trump because he is one wise man.. and rich but he creates a bond with russia unlike obama he cannot bond with russia i mean he bombs innocent people but when he declares gun control and much more will his a great president but not a good performance is like normal or balanced but i believe that trump will change alot of things and be the savior of United States of America. He focused on what's the problem with the United States and Think about his fellow americans that are willing to fight for their rights :D and get rid of terrorism :D


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Seccerius on January 24, 2017, 10:00:51 AM
I think PTrump will perform better in other aspects than PObama but he will not get to the level of respect PObama gained during his term.

Right now, the Americans badly need a president who will perform, and not someone who is good only for showoff. That should be the case, even if it means alienating some of the most trusted allies.
Americans can do without allies? America has gained its allies for many years, and you can lose a few days. If country is not your ally, is a potential enemy. You seriously think that without allies America can be great?


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on January 24, 2017, 10:07:45 AM
Americans can do without allies? America has gained its allies for many years, and you can lose a few days. If country is not your ally, is a potential enemy. You seriously think that without allies America can be great?

The US must accommodate the considerations from its allies. But this shouldn't mean that it should give preference to foreigners over its own citizens. How can you justify GM and Ford closing their factories in the US, and opening new ones in Mexico? 


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Seccerius on January 24, 2017, 10:16:12 AM
Americans can do without allies? America has gained its allies for many years, and you can lose a few days. If country is not your ally, is a potential enemy. You seriously think that without allies America can be great?

The US must accommodate the considerations from its allies. But this shouldn't mean that it should give preference to foreigners over its own citizens. How can you justify GM and Ford closing their factories in the US, and opening new ones in Mexico? 
It's a competitive job market. Why are you talking only about Mexico? You probably forgot about the refineries? They will close as well. What to do? In addition to these places come the Japanese.In the end, not just jobs and capital leaving America.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: saqibmunir on January 24, 2017, 11:09:44 AM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama
Trump is like our president he has sense of humor and always talk like a shit! too but not all the times but i don't believed that trump can make america great again, And he will destroy america for sure this is only my thought im not u.s citezen but i always watch news and read about trump news.
i think he is just a businessman and he is very respected business man but it is challenge for him to run the state...... and the real challenge for him and the whole world is that how he deal with the islamic terrorism and i think obama is pretty good at it........


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on January 24, 2017, 11:16:06 AM
It's a competitive job market. Why are you talking only about Mexico? You probably forgot about the refineries? They will close as well. What to do? In addition to these places come the Japanese.In the end, not just jobs and capital leaving America.

Competitive job market is OK. I don't have any issues with Americans importing cars from Japan. The Japanese technology is one of the best and they pay their workers above average wages. On the other hand, the Mexicans are able to manufacture cheap cars, using slave labor. And in addition to that, the quality is not that good.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: grenade launcher on January 24, 2017, 11:22:41 AM
It's a competitive job market. Why are you talking only about Mexico? You probably forgot about the refineries? They will close as well. What to do? In addition to these places come the Japanese.In the end, not just jobs and capital leaving America.

Competitive job market is OK. I don't have any issues with Americans importing cars from Japan. The Japanese technology is one of the best and they pay their workers above average wages. On the other hand, the Mexicans are able to manufacture cheap cars, using slave labor. And in addition to that, the quality is not that good.
The quality of American cars is really not the best and inferior to Japanese cars. But the problem is not the quality of labor of the Mexicans, but rather the quality of technological equipment. The Japanese used a lot of robots. If the Americans go on this way jobs will be no more.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Oggy1987 on January 24, 2017, 03:13:43 PM
It's a competitive job market. Why are you talking only about Mexico? You probably forgot about the refineries? They will close as well. What to do? In addition to these places come the Japanese.In the end, not just jobs and capital leaving America.

Competitive job market is OK. I don't have any issues with Americans importing cars from Japan. The Japanese technology is one of the best and they pay their workers above average wages. On the other hand, the Mexicans are able to manufacture cheap cars, using slave labor. And in addition to that, the quality is not that good.
The quality of American cars is really not the best and inferior to Japanese cars. But the problem is not the quality of labor of the Mexicans, but rather the quality of technological equipment. The Japanese used a lot of robots. If the Americans go on this way jobs will be no more.

Not much jobs would be gone, but you would get more qualified labor, plus better industry. Some jobs are due to die, and they will when robots become cheaper then human. But someone gotta operate those robots, overlook them and repair.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Malsetid on January 25, 2017, 12:27:01 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

Obama's done a lot. Theres no question about that and i think trump would have his hands full for the next four years. Though i think trump will have an entirely different approach on how to handle current issues. Im just looking forward to what he will do about foreign relations espexially with whatts going on in the east.  Being a successful businessman, i think he knows what is needed whrn it comes to economic issues. It may very well be different in cimparison to obama but lets give the man a shot :D


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Ronxawala on January 25, 2017, 01:19:36 PM
It's a competitive job market. Why are you talking only about Mexico? You probably forgot about the refineries? They will close as well. What to do? In addition to these places come the Japanese.In the end, not just jobs and capital leaving America.

Competitive job market is OK. I don't have any issues with Americans importing cars from Japan. The Japanese technology is one of the best and they pay their workers above average wages. On the other hand, the Mexicans are able to manufacture cheap cars, using slave labor. And in addition to that, the quality is not that good.
The quality of American cars is really not the best and inferior to Japanese cars. But the problem is not the quality of labor of the Mexicans, but rather the quality of technological equipment. The Japanese used a lot of robots. If the Americans go on this way jobs will be no more.

Not much jobs would be gone, but you would get more qualified labor, plus better industry. Some jobs are due to die, and they will when robots become cheaper then human. But someone gotta operate those robots, overlook them and repair.
Service robots need a lot less people than on production. Any mechanization reduces jobs and increases the number of products. I think Trump does not understand the reasons for the current crisis. He's a fool.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: GreenBits on January 25, 2017, 01:21:05 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama
For now I cant predict it because Donal Trump move is unpredictable and I dont know what is his next move.Obama is make his job well but they are some issues that he make like the Deal in Iran.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: BOSA.io on January 25, 2017, 04:11:14 PM
Trump is like an altcoin- all or nothing.  He will either cause a giant mess or do very well. No happy medium in site.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 25, 2017, 05:16:49 PM
It's a competitive job market. Why are you talking only about Mexico? You probably forgot about the refineries? They will close as well. What to do? In addition to these places come the Japanese.In the end, not just jobs and capital leaving America.

Competitive job market is OK. I don't have any issues with Americans importing cars from Japan. The Japanese technology is one of the best and they pay their workers above average wages. On the other hand, the Mexicans are able to manufacture cheap cars, using slave labor. And in addition to that, the quality is not that good.
The quality of American cars is really not the best and inferior to Japanese cars. But the problem is not the quality of labor of the Mexicans, but rather the quality of technological equipment. The Japanese used a lot of robots. If the Americans go on this way jobs will be no more.

Not much jobs would be gone, but you would get more qualified labor, plus better industry. Some jobs are due to die, and they will when robots become cheaper then human. But someone gotta operate those robots, overlook them and repair.

Automation in 99% of the cases target unskilled labor. It is not very easy to replace highly skilled labor, even using Robots. Perhaps that is one of the reason why Nissan still uses a 100% manual process to manufacture car engines for its brand GT-R. After the engine is manufactured, Nissan places a nameplate of the engineer who built it, over the engine.

http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2012/11/2014-Nissan-GT-R-nameplate.jpghttps://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/testdrive/gallery/nissan-gt-r-review-2015_39.jpg


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: inspiring.rai on February 19, 2017, 01:16:32 PM
No,I don't think Donald Trump performed better than Barack Obama,infact Obama was the best president of USA while Trump is the worst president of USA.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Tyrantt on February 19, 2017, 02:22:12 PM
he's already better than Obama, if you ask me... When the left give up and realise that this is for the better of all americans, things will be even better.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Daniel91 on February 19, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
It's to early to answer such question.
Trump is president only a few weeks and Obama was president 8 years.
Obama had many great achievement (he received Nobel peace prize for example, Obama Care, financial regulation etc.)  and because of this he was respected in both America and the world.
Trump still didn't accomplish anything, realistically.
We will judge him after 4 or 8 years, based on his concrete actions and achievements, not words or promises.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on February 19, 2017, 03:35:22 PM
....
Obama had many great achievement (he received Nobel peace prize for example,....
Trump still didn't accomplish anything, realistically.....

Priceless...



Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 19, 2017, 06:22:22 PM
....
Obama had many great achievement (he received Nobel peace prize for example,....
Trump still didn't accomplish anything, realistically.....

Priceless...

LOL... and some people think that it is an "achievement". I have a feeling that the Nobel prize committee felt that there were too few African nobel winners, and therefore they went for affirmative action. In Germany, Angela Merkel was also expecting a Nobel for herself, but unfortunately the prize went to Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 07:45:12 PM
Is the Obama Administration ... Fully Operational? (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/212982-2017-02-18-is-the-obama-administration-fully-operational.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/000-0218130341-obama-operational.png (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/212982-2017-02-18-is-the-obama-administration-fully-operational.htm)


Incredible as it seems it is now widely reported that Barack Obama never left. That's right. He is parking himself in Washington D.C. and will run an operation fully dedicated to sabotaging President Donald Trump as if the current deep state war to sabotage Trump is not enough. Of course one would be foolish to think that one sabotage effort is somehow independent of the other. No one should be that naive.


Read more at http://truthandarttv.com/is-the-obama-administration-fully-operational


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Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on February 20, 2017, 03:02:32 AM
^^^^^^ Why you are posting BS articles from unreliable sites such as this one? Barack Obama is no longer the president of the United States. His party is no longer in power. The last time I heard, he had moved in to some rural villa in the Embassy Row.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: HabBear on February 20, 2017, 05:22:15 AM
Trump is like an altcoin- all or nothing.  He will either cause a giant mess or do very well. No happy medium in site.

Hahah, like an Alt coin. Love it. Temporarily there's a lot of hype but in the grand scheme of history he will be seen as a waste of time and money...utterly worthless.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: HabBear on February 20, 2017, 05:25:04 AM
he's already better than Obama, if you ask me... When the left give up and realise that this is for the better of all americans, things will be even better.

Splain your self. Seriously. Why are you so convinced? You offer zero details. Thanks.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Junko on February 20, 2017, 06:40:23 AM
he's already better than Obama, if you ask me... When the left give up and realise that this is for the better of all americans, things will be even better.

Splain your self. Seriously. Why are you so convinced? You offer zero details. Thanks.

The single act of withdrawing the U.S. from the TPP trade deal alone outperforms Obama and all his 8 years of presidency combined as far as doing good for the country and jobs.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on February 21, 2017, 01:29:33 AM
he's already better than Obama, if you ask me... When the left give up and realise that this is for the better of all americans, things will be even better.

Splain your self. Seriously. Why are you so convinced? You offer zero details. Thanks.

The single act of withdrawing the U.S. from the TPP trade deal alone outperforms Obama and all his 8 years of presidency combined as far as doing good for the country and jobs.

I have to think about that.

A.  No TPP

B.  Bengazi, Iran nuclear give away, TPP, Transexual bathrooms

.....


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Forester618 on February 21, 2017, 01:38:06 AM
he's already better than Obama, if you ask me... When the left give up and realise that this is for the better of all americans, things will be even better.

Splain your self. Seriously. Why are you so convinced? You offer zero details. Thanks.

The single act of withdrawing the U.S. from the TPP trade deal alone outperforms Obama and all his 8 years of presidency combined as far as doing good for the country and jobs.
And at what here jobs? The fact that the Americans lost their allies in the Pacific that's for sure, and does that added at least one job I doubt it. From China moved the production of iPhones? And Trump promised that he would return and where!


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on February 21, 2017, 01:54:14 AM
No,I don't think Donald Trump performed better than Barack Obama,infact Obama was the best president of USA while Trump is the worst president of USA.

Barack Obama was the worst president the United States ever had. That is why the economy is in deep shit despite he increasing the federal debt by $10 trillion. The federal debt never had been this high.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: squatz1 on February 21, 2017, 06:09:48 AM
I think within the first 4 weeks of his presidency he easily did better than former President Obama just be fulfilling a majority of his campaign promises, this is something that most politicians will never do and will keep just attempting to change their promises in order to keep getting voted in.

Trump is someone who has already achieved many promises and is keeping his people happy by doing rallies and such, something that is viewed as un-presidential but loved by the American people. But as one president once said "Anything I do is presidential, I'm the president"

....
Obama had many great achievement (he received Nobel peace prize for example,....
Trump still didn't accomplish anything, realistically.....

Priceless...

LOL... and some people think that it is an "achievement". I have a feeling that the Nobel prize committee felt that there were too few African nobel winners, and therefore they went for affirmative action. In Germany, Angela Merkel was also expecting a Nobel for herself, but unfortunately the prize went to Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia.

Sad that some people think that award really means anything. You can't even say that someone deserved the PEACE PRIZE when they're authorizing the usage of drones of civilians in the middle east. Sorry, but that was easily an award picked on race.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on February 22, 2017, 04:53:53 AM
Sad that some people think that award really means anything. You can't even say that someone deserved the PEACE PRIZE when they're authorizing the usage of drones of civilians in the middle east. Sorry, but that was easily an award picked on race.

No doubt about that. First, he became a senator thanks to his skin color. And then he became the president of the United States, once again due to his racial origin. And finally, he got the Nobel peace prize in the most undeserving manner.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: HabBear on February 22, 2017, 05:22:15 AM
Why?

You make these bold claims but you don't explain any rationale, reasons, logic, or facts to support your claims.

So for you the increase in the federal debt indicates the Presidential performance? That's an interesting metric to choose. Given that debt is compounding. The policies and debt obligations in place before a Presidential administration starts grow as the budget is raised each year. So, in Obama's case the high cost of military and wars continues to grow under his watch, even though he may not have made the buying decisions to result in that debt.

There are other metrics that improved significantly with Obama:
  • Unemployment went down
  • The stock market went up
  • More private sector jobs were created under Obama's reign in 2010 ALONE, than in all of Bush Jr.'s reign
  • Bloomberg ranks US Prosperity under the last 6 Presidential administrations, They ranked Obama's #2, second best out of the last 30+ years

Do you read facts?

Here are some: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ (http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/); http://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/508600239/what-kind-of-jobs-president-has-obama-been-in-8-charts (http://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/508600239/what-kind-of-jobs-president-has-obama-been-in-8-charts); https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy); https://ourfuture.org/20141208/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charts (https://ourfuture.org/20141208/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charts)

No,I don't think Donald Trump performed better than Barack Obama,infact Obama was the best president of USA while Trump is the worst president of USA.

Barack Obama was the worst president the United States ever had. That is why the economy is in deep shit despite he increasing the federal debt by $10 trillion. The federal debt never had been this high.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: machinek20 on February 22, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
Not too sure, from the speech and words Trump won't do any goods for the country, but Trump is a succesful businessman, and US need someone that can increase their economics life, and Trump is really experienced in the business industry, maybe he can decrease the unemployment rate and increase the US economics, so only time will tell which one is better


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on February 22, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.


Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved.  THEY got it!"

Calling for the execution of snowden ....
The injustice of that would be an issue we agree on.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: muddafudda on February 22, 2017, 01:10:59 PM
He is really unique, I can not find a precedent. We have never had a President who was totally inexperienced in the public service, who has never held a position whether it is a government or a military one. That's a huge difference: Trump has no governmental experience. And taking out his presidential campaign, he has practically no political experience.

And these were largely the reasons why he won the election: we know that the people who voted for him said that they supported him because they wanted things to change in Washington. The lack of political and governmental experience was part of his message, saying: I am different, I am not one of Washington's politicians, I am a businessman who will mess with the system.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Casanova18 on February 22, 2017, 05:02:31 PM
Not too sure, from the speech and words Trump won't do any goods for the country, but Trump is a succesful businessman, and US need someone that can increase their economics life, and Trump is really experienced in the business industry, maybe he can decrease the unemployment rate and increase the US economics, so only time will tell which one is better
Why do you think that Trump is a successful businessman? For example, I don't know. Have you seen anywhere a financial disclosure statement Trump? I think that if you saw the true situation of its financial activities you should change your opinion about it.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Bee Leb07 on February 22, 2017, 05:15:07 PM
From my point of view, i think that Obama is far more better than trump. Obama turned many impossible things into possibility. But, Trump will not be able to perform as like Obama did for the country.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: HabBear on February 22, 2017, 05:34:49 PM
Coming from the guy trying to convince me that Trump isn't a racist, now I see your angle.

Sad that some people think that award really means anything. You can't even say that someone deserved the PEACE PRIZE when they're authorizing the usage of drones of civilians in the middle east. Sorry, but that was easily an award picked on race.

No doubt about that. First, he became a senator thanks to his skin color. And then he became the president of the United States, once again due to his racial origin. And finally, he got the Nobel peace prize in the most undeserving manner.

The Nobel Peace Prize for Obama is an embarrassment, undeserved, and completely politically motivated. The Nobel committee (at best) were making the decision based on Obama's words, not is actions. And I'm a believer that you do have to watch both (e.g,. Trump could gain more favor with me if his a actions cause greater good in the US, despite my disdain for his words). Obama should have denied the prize. Any President who engages in war should be ineligible for the Peach prize.

More important is that Trump hasn't been in office long enough to provide a fair comparison to Obama - this questions is "mainstream media" unfair and biased!

To Sithara, if a white guy talked about hope and change and governing in a logical, fact based, opportunity-for-all manner as Obama did, I'd still vote for him.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on February 22, 2017, 06:29:03 PM
.....e.g,. Trump could gain more favor with me if his a actions cause greater good in the US, despite my disdain for his words....

This is exactly what I was going to respond to you with, concerning our recent differences vis a vis Trump's politically incorrect speech. 

I think you might have a point.  Suppose a businessman says any thing he want for years, it's okay for him to be not politically correct.  Then he becomes President.  Should he then be more circumspect in his speech?

I think so, to a degree.  Now suppose the person is incapable of being more diplomatic, just personality flaws, whatever.  But he accomplishes a lot, one thing after another.  EG for example, he says things that some might consider offensive for blacks, for hispanics, whatever (you pick the groups).  BUT THAT'S OFFSET BY material actions he took to improve their condition.

Well, what then?  I'd then say, the rough speech was not relevant, and was far overshadowed by the actions.

That's likely a reasonable way to look at it.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Chef Ramsay on February 22, 2017, 06:39:20 PM
Trump is gonna be finished if he doesn't root out the moles in his Oval Office and the deep state which is conspiring against him. This former CIA analyst is leading the call on what Trump should do in the coming weeks in order to survive and succeed in MAGA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=nfX5QhqbCpM
still can't embed here ::)


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: s0nix on February 22, 2017, 07:15:18 PM
My personal opinion: No one performed worse than Trump.
Maybe I'm wrong, but right now this Trump is horrible.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: HabBear on February 22, 2017, 07:34:02 PM
Yeah, I like that approach...reasonable indeed.

We'll need to see what his actions are. The funny part (for me) is that he would have won anyway, without the harsh talk. The guy is a New Yorker, New Yorkers talk like this, but if he kept his message real but used different words you'd see far less of the protesting. Hillary never had a chance...her corrupt activities and failures were the actions that spoke louder than her softer words.

I should do a search on past Presidents to see if any were as "brash", or whatever, as Trump. Who else was known for it? Watch me find some FDR or Eisenhower come up. If I find anything interesting I'll share it.

.....e.g,. Trump could gain more favor with me if his a actions cause greater good in the US, despite my disdain for his words....

This is exactly what I was going to respond to you with, concerning our recent differences vis a vis Trump's politically incorrect speech. 

I think you might have a point.  Suppose a businessman says any thing he want for years, it's okay for him to be not politically correct.  Then he becomes President.  Should he then be more circumspect in his speech?

I think so, to a degree.  Now suppose the person is incapable of being more diplomatic, just personality flaws, whatever.  But he accomplishes a lot, one thing after another.  EG for example, he says things that some might consider offensive for blacks, for hispanics, whatever (you pick the groups).  BUT THAT'S OFFSET BY material actions he took to improve their condition.

Well, what then?  I'd then say, the rough speech was not relevant, and was far overshadowed by the actions.

That's likely a reasonable way to look at it.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on February 23, 2017, 02:11:34 AM
My personal opinion: No one performed worse than Trump.
Maybe I'm wrong, but right now this Trump is horrible.

From your language, it is clear that you are not from the United States. BTW, how you can say that Trump is horrible, when he has just started his term? Even during his first month in office, he has acted on several of his campaign promises. His supporters are happy, and I don't understand what is your problem.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: zero1ten on February 23, 2017, 09:17:27 AM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

A month from his presidency, an it seems he really don't know how to be a president. Day by day, he's making himself a big joke and laughing stock of the world and it's disheartening for the americans because I think Trump doesn't represents them at all.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Xester on February 23, 2017, 10:49:06 AM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

The newly elected President of the United States of America in the person of Donald Trump will perform much better than the previous president who is Barrack Obama. His position on the abolition of abortion rights is one of the manifestation that Trump is serious about the protection and valuing of life even in its early stages. His laws that stops muslim immigrants to enter the USA is just one way of ensuring that America will belong to America. If he did not stop the migration of muslims in his country and with the abortion rights available to all the immigrants will multiply very fast since they loved reproduction while the americans love birth control and abortion. If Trump did not become president in 30 years time the majority of people in America will no longer be Americans but muslims.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Casanova18 on February 23, 2017, 11:04:32 AM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

The newly elected President of the United States of America in the person of Donald Trump will perform much better than the previous president who is Barrack Obama. His position on the abolition of abortion rights is one of the manifestation that Trump is serious about the protection and valuing of life even in its early stages. His laws that stops muslim immigrants to enter the USA is just one way of ensuring that America will belong to America. If he did not stop the migration of muslims in his country and with the abortion rights available to all the immigrants will multiply very fast since they loved reproduction while the americans love birth control and abortion. If Trump did not become president in 30 years time the majority of people in America will no longer be Americans but muslims.
And why not the Chinese? Don't forget that the Chinese are born more often than the Muslims. Just about Muslims often say because of the information events related to terrorism. It seems to me that the peaceful spread of Chinese are not less dangerous.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 23, 2017, 11:51:41 AM
And why not the Chinese? Don't forget that the Chinese are born more often than the Muslims. Just about Muslims often say because of the information events related to terrorism. It seems to me that the peaceful spread of Chinese are not less dangerous.

Are you out of your mind? The Chinese are having one of the lowest birth rates in the world. This is true not just in mainland China, but also in other ethnic Chinese dominated nations such as Singapore, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. The Muslim birth rate is many times that of the Chinese and they are immigrating in much larger numbers when compared to the ethnic Chinese.


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: darkseid1199 on February 23, 2017, 09:24:39 PM
Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

The newly elected President of the United States of America in the person of Donald Trump will perform much better than the previous president who is Barrack Obama. His position on the abolition of abortion rights is one of the manifestation that Trump is serious about the protection and valuing of life even in its early stages. His laws that stops muslim immigrants to enter the USA is just one way of ensuring that America will belong to America. If he did not stop the migration of muslims in his country and with the abortion rights available to all the immigrants will multiply very fast since they loved reproduction while the americans love birth control and abortion. If Trump did not become president in 30 years time the majority of people in America will no longer be Americans but muslims.

Point of correction America does not belong to the Americans in the first place. They just massacred the native Indians for it. I truly support the ban of muslim immigrants these people think they can go anywhere and act anyhow, look at what is happening in Germany, Absolute chaos turns to Merkel's open door policy. I didnt see that happen for refugees in Africa,


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Sithara007 on February 24, 2017, 02:11:14 AM
Point of correction America does not belong to the Americans in the first place. They just massacred the native Indians for it. I truly support the ban of muslim immigrants these people think they can go anywhere and act anyhow, look at what is happening in Germany, Absolute chaos turns to Merkel's open door policy. I didnt see that happen for refugees in Africa,

What happened hundreds of years ago, can't be used to justify something wrong right now. What happened to the native Americans was plain wrong. But then you can't repeat it again by conducting a similar genocidal campaign against the current residents. 


Title: Re: WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA
Post by: Spendulus on February 24, 2017, 04:15:22 AM
Point of correction America does not belong to the Americans in the first place. They just massacred the native Indians for it. I truly support the ban of muslim immigrants these people think they can go anywhere and act anyhow, look at what is happening in Germany, Absolute chaos turns to Merkel's open door policy. I didnt see that happen for refugees in Africa,

What happened hundreds of years ago, can't be used to justify something wrong right now. What happened to the native Americans was plain wrong. But then you can't repeat it again by conducting a similar genocidal campaign against the current residents. 

Bearded morons stuck in the 7th century just might....