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Title: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: BADecker on January 23, 2017, 10:36:58 PM US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/211257-2017-01-23-us-exit-from-united-nations-could-become-reality-with-fresh.htm)
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0123092253-u.n.-with-x.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/211257-2017-01-23-us-exit-from-united-nations-could-become-reality-with-fresh.htm) Quote from: http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-exit-from-united-nations-could-become-reality-with-fresh-bill.html A Republican-proposed House Resolution has quietly slipped past the public radar – proposing that the United States withdraw its membership from the United Nations, just as another bill was being concocted to cut US funding to the body. The bill, proposed by Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL), entitled American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017, seeks a complete US withdrawal from the UN, that the international body remove its headquarters from New York and that all participation be ceased with the World Health Organization as well. Rogers and other prominent Republicans have repeatedly voiced the idea that US taxpayer money should not go to an organization that does not promote US interests – especially one that does not stick up for Israel together with the US. The new document is merely the latest manifestation of sentiment that has been brewing for some time. The bill was quietly introduced on January 3 and was passed on to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. If approved, the bill would take two years to take effect. It would also repeal the United Nations Participation Act of 1945, signed in the aftermath of WWII. "The President shall terminate all membership by the United States in the United Nations in any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations…The United States Mission to the United Nations is closed. Any remaining functions of such office shall not be carried out,"according to the text of HR 193. The bill would also prohibit "the authorization of funds for the US assessed or voluntary contribution to the UN," which would also include any military or peacekeeping expenditures, the use of the US military by the UN, and the loss of "diplomatic immunity for UN officers or employees" on US soil. Rogers had tried to pass the same bill in 2015, albeit unsuccessfully. "Why should the American taxpayer bankroll an international organization that works against America's interests around the world?" Rogers asked at the time in defense of his idea. "The time is now to restore and protect American sovereignty and get out of the United Nations." Another supporter of HR 193, Rend Paul (R-KY) also put it like this in January 2015: "I dislike paying for something that two-bit Third World countries with no freedom attack us and complain about the United States… There's a lot of reasons why I don't like the UN, and I think I'd be happy to dissolve it," added the Kentucky senator. Later, in June 2015, Rogers had introduced his document – then named HR 1205, but essentially the same USExit idea he's proposing now. "The UN continues to prove it's an inefficient bureaucracy and a complete waste of American tax dollars." Rogers went on to name treaties and actions he believes "attack our rights as US citizens." These included gun provisions, the imposition of international regulations on American fossil fuels – but more importantly, the UN attack on Israel, by voting to grant Palestine the non-member state 'permanent observer' status. "Anyone who is not a friend to our ally Israel is not a friend to the United States." That same logic was used this January when House Republicans prepared a legislation that would decrease – even potentially eliminate – US funding to the UN. According to calculations by the conservative Heritage Foundation, the US provides over 22 percent of all UN funding. The bill to cut the funding was introduced shortly after the UNSC voted 14-0 to condemn the continued construction of illegal Israeli settlements – the resolution Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu considered a backstab from the US, which declined to veto it, as per former President Barack Obama's suddenly critical attitude to Israel at the end of his presidency. Read more at http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-exit-from-united-nations-could-become-reality-with-fresh-bill.html. 8) Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Hydrogen on January 24, 2017, 12:44:29 AM This is like brexit for americans.
8) Unexit! Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: BADecker on January 24, 2017, 01:58:16 AM This is like brexit for americans. 8) Unexit! "Un" a prefix that usually indicates the opposite of something that can be done. Does this mean that "unexit" is something that can't be done in America? 8) Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: HabBear on January 24, 2017, 05:25:37 AM More Fake News.
If I Google: Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL), entitled American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017, seeks a complete US withdrawal from the UN I'll get pages of bullshit news sites, many of them are Russian. And if you think these new sources are credible, consider that one congressman wanting to do something means nothing. It takes much more than that to even generate meaningful talk about new policy. Don't believe BADecker's hype. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: BADecker on January 24, 2017, 05:50:46 AM Trump: Congress To Vote On Bill To Leave The UN (http://yournewswire.com/trump-congress-leave-un/)
http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Trump-USA-leaves-UN-700x350.jpg (http://yournewswire.com/trump-congress-leave-un/) Quote from: http://yournewswire.com/trump-congress-leave-un/ Days after Trump’s inauguration, members of Congress are seizing the moment and pushing for America to exit the United Nations, introducing a bill (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193) to the House that will repeal the United Nations Participation Act of 1945 and reclaim full American sovereignty. Under a Trump presidency there is a growing belief that the idea of America exiting the UN is not only feasible but could capture the national imagination, as American citizens seek to defeat the corrupt global elite and regain control of their country. The bill is called the American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193) and it is set to repeal the United States’ participation in the UN and outlaw the authorization of any American funds for the UN, as well as the participation of US military in any UN operation. The bill also revokes diplomatic immunity for UN officials. The bill requires: (1) the President to terminate US membership in the United Nations, including any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body; and (2) closure of the US Mission to the United Nations. The bill prohibits: Read more at http://yournewswire.com/trump-congress-leave-un/. 8) Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: noel2123 on January 24, 2017, 06:26:51 AM We see that Trump is just like Hitler, we can compare him like Hitler. Hitler is one of the most well known president, we all know that Hitler is very strict. He can do rules and regularization fast and efficient. Just like Trump, he is just elected president, but he do a lot of legal legislative rules. We know Trump is also like Hitler because of his strict compliances
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: BADecker on January 24, 2017, 06:39:50 AM We see that Trump is just like Hitler, we can compare him like Hitler. Hitler is one of the most well known president, we all know that Hitler is very strict. He can do rules and regularization fast and efficient. Just like Trump, he is just elected president, but he do a lot of legal legislative rules. We know Trump is also like Hitler because of his strict compliances The Governments of Germany and the United States are different. If Hitler were elected President of the U.S. today, there would be little he could do to harm America any more than Obama did. 8) Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Sithara007 on January 24, 2017, 06:57:16 AM We see that Trump is just like Hitler, we can compare him like Hitler. Hitler is one of the most well known president, we all know that Hitler is very strict. He can do rules and regularization fast and efficient. Just like Trump, he is just elected president, but he do a lot of legal legislative rules. We know Trump is also like Hitler because of his strict compliances Trump becomes Hitler just because the American public want to leave the UN? I am yet to find a single similarity between Trump and Hitler. On the other hand, there are a lot of similarities between Hitler and Merkel. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Daniel91 on January 24, 2017, 04:05:46 PM First, I don't think that America will leave UN.
They have a lot influence there, main role in all UN agencies, and also a lot benefits as well. Second, Trump can't make such decision alone, without US congress. It's true that Republicans rule in the Congress now but we can't say that Trump control absolutely all Republican members in the Congress. :) I don't believe everything what I read in the newspapers or internet today. It's better to think with your own brain, based on logic and intellect. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: European Central Bank on January 24, 2017, 04:24:30 PM i'll believe it when i see it. a site named 'prisonplanet' may not be the most reliable news source.
in the meantime i was under the impression america hadn't bothered to pay its un fees for multiple decades anyway. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: BADecker on January 24, 2017, 04:39:47 PM i'll believe it when i see it. a site named 'prisonplanet' may not be the most reliable news source. in the meantime i was under the impression america hadn't bothered to pay its un fees for multiple decades anyway. Well, it's all about money. So, if America hadn't paid her fees, let's go the rest of the way and get the UN out. Neither this forum, nor any "other" media outlets, express all the deals and agreements you make with your friends everyday. In fact, none of those agreements may ever be known. In the same way, many agreements made between powerful politicians and wealthy people may never be known. But when the rich and powerful make deals, they might affect us all. The point? Prison Planet is only scratching the surface of what goes on behind the scenes.. 8) Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Winner on January 25, 2017, 12:00:31 AM Stay with Israel.
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Sithara007 on January 25, 2017, 04:20:21 AM The current voting system in the UN must be abolished. Right now, nations such as Nauru and Palau (having a population of just 10,000) are having the same votes as India and Indonesia (population of 1.3 billion and 250 million respectively).
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Xester on January 25, 2017, 01:22:07 PM That is good news. The United States of America must now stop wasting their resources controlling other countries through the guise of the United Nations. Trump has seen that the previous administration is using the UN activities so the oligarchs can bring our millions of dollars in form of aid to other countries to fund their own greediness. Its time for the UN to be independent of USA and move on for the betterment without the strings pulled by the USA.
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: craked5 on January 25, 2017, 01:29:14 PM That is good news. The United States of America must now stop wasting their resources controlling other countries through the guise of the United Nations. Trump has seen that the previous administration is using the UN activities so the oligarchs can bring our millions of dollars in form of aid to other countries to fund their own greediness. Its time for the UN to be independent of USA and move on for the betterment without the strings pulled by the USA. You're a special kind of idiot aren't you? The kind of idiot thinking usa can survive alone around here. The kind of idilt not even understanding how weak usa is right now. Yeah. Leave. Let us decide how the world will work. We can't mess it up more than you did. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Ronxawala on January 25, 2017, 01:31:22 PM That is good news. The United States of America must now stop wasting their resources controlling other countries through the guise of the United Nations. Trump has seen that the previous administration is using the UN activities so the oligarchs can bring our millions of dollars in form of aid to other countries to fund their own greediness. Its time for the UN to be independent of USA and move on for the betterment without the strings pulled by the USA. The UN was created to prevent war in the world, but each country has its own interests. They try to impose these interests by force. If the UN will fall apart then the world could plunge into chaos.Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: bryant.coleman on January 25, 2017, 05:58:20 PM That is good news. The United States of America must now stop wasting their resources controlling other countries through the guise of the United Nations. Trump has seen that the previous administration is using the UN activities so the oligarchs can bring our millions of dollars in form of aid to other countries to fund their own greediness. Its time for the UN to be independent of USA and move on for the betterment without the strings pulled by the USA. The UN was created to prevent war in the world, but each country has its own interests. They try to impose these interests by force. If the UN will fall apart then the world could plunge into chaos.Yes... the United Nations was the successor to the League of Nations. But after a promising start, the UN became a toothless body from 1980 onward. It was unable to prevent conflicts from happening (such as those in Sudan and Afghanistan) and it couldn't act against human rights abuses perpetrated by various dictatorships and juntas. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: craked5 on January 25, 2017, 06:28:23 PM That is good news. The United States of America must now stop wasting their resources controlling other countries through the guise of the United Nations. Trump has seen that the previous administration is using the UN activities so the oligarchs can bring our millions of dollars in form of aid to other countries to fund their own greediness. Its time for the UN to be independent of USA and move on for the betterment without the strings pulled by the USA. The UN was created to prevent war in the world, but each country has its own interests. They try to impose these interests by force. If the UN will fall apart then the world could plunge into chaos.Yes... the United Nations was the successor to the League of Nations. But after a promising start, the UN became a toothless body from 1980 onward. It was unable to prevent conflicts from happening (such as those in Sudan and Afghanistan) and it couldn't act against human rights abuses perpetrated by various dictatorships and juntas. Because USA or Russia support the dictators They're permanent members so we can do nothing if one of them disagree. If USA leaves we will finally be able to act! Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: countryfree on January 25, 2017, 07:33:06 PM NO!
There will always be a need to talk with others. Even Trump understands that. He shall also understand that without the US, the leading countries at the UN would be Russia and China, which have their own interests, very frequently much different from those of the US. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: darkseid1199 on January 26, 2017, 09:25:01 AM According to new reports, The US wants to reduce funding to the UN, because it says that as the Largest contributor of funds to the UN, the UN are not as supportive to the US as it should be.
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: bryant.coleman on January 26, 2017, 09:34:36 AM According to new reports, The US wants to reduce funding to the UN, because it says that as the Largest contributor of funds to the UN, the UN are not as supportive to the US as it should be. The contribution should be directly proportional to the voting rights. If the US and Nauru are having the same number of votes, then both of them should contribute equally to the UN. Hmm.... I forgot about the veto power. The five nations holding veto power must contribute an additional amount to the United Nations. This amount also should be divided equally among the five. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: bra4our on January 26, 2017, 09:53:30 AM According to new reports, The US wants to reduce funding to the UN, because it says that as the Largest contributor of funds to the UN, the UN are not as supportive to the US as it should be. The contribution should be directly proportional to the voting rights. If the US and Nauru are having the same number of votes, then both of them should contribute equally to the UN. Hmm.... I forgot about the veto power. The five nations holding veto power must contribute an additional amount to the United Nations. This amount also should be divided equally among the five. I totally agree why should veto member be paying more than another veto powered member. but in any sense if funding to the UN determines the power a member should wield, it would be totally unfair to other countries without the wealth and power like the G 20. I think the UN should be accountable in its actions. And the veto should be scrapped completely. Its not fair at all. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: bryant.coleman on January 26, 2017, 10:16:27 AM According to new reports, The US wants to reduce funding to the UN, because it says that as the Largest contributor of funds to the UN, the UN are not as supportive to the US as it should be. The contribution should be directly proportional to the voting rights. If the US and Nauru are having the same number of votes, then both of them should contribute equally to the UN. Hmm.... I forgot about the veto power. The five nations holding veto power must contribute an additional amount to the United Nations. This amount also should be divided equally among the five. I totally agree why should veto member be paying more than another veto powered member. but in any sense if funding to the UN determines the power a member should wield, it would be totally unfair to other countries without the wealth and power like the G 20. I think the UN should be accountable in its actions. And the veto should be scrapped completely. Its not fair at all. It is not going to happen. Even previously, there were attempts to scrap the veto. But the five super-powers united to reject this proposal. Also one of the negative aspects about dumping the veto is that if the proposal is accepted, then the US will have the same voting right as Vatican city or Monaco. Do you think that they will be happy with this? Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: youdamushi on January 26, 2017, 10:51:39 AM According to new reports, The US wants to reduce funding to the UN, because it says that as the Largest contributor of funds to the UN, the UN are not as supportive to the US as it should be. The contribution should be directly proportional to the voting rights. If the US and Nauru are having the same number of votes, then both of them should contribute equally to the UN. Hmm.... I forgot about the veto power. The five nations holding veto power must contribute an additional amount to the United Nations. This amount also should be divided equally among the five. Ahahahahah xD Do you even understand that what you're saying is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of an equalitarian democracy? Last time I checked USA was still priding themselves as being the main country spreading democracy and freedom around the world. Thank you for confirming again that it is not true. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: bra4our on January 26, 2017, 11:33:01 AM I highly doubt the USA is spreading democracy and freedom around the world. The people of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya will say otherwise. The USA have thrown all these countries in a state of turmoil and destruction all in the name of promoting Freedom. With the case of Afghanistan, The USA made the taliban rulers just because they wanted the Soviets out of the country and in the case of Iraq and Libya, they toppled dictators only to thrust the country in the hands of terrorist organizatons who they were not ready to fight.
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: bryant.coleman on January 26, 2017, 12:42:37 PM Last time I checked USA was still priding themselves as being the main country spreading democracy and freedom around the world. They are spreading democracy by bombing the hospitals and overthrowing the democratically elected governments? I really doubt whether that is going to work. But then, the topic is about the UN membership of the United States. Why should they contribute so much money to the organization and its splinter wings, if they get nothing in return? Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: grermezter on January 26, 2017, 12:48:57 PM Its still a shame how a nation founded on the principle of freedom has completely turned around on its principles and are just doing what it like without a care to the consequences of their actions. Hopefully Trump will bring back the Glory of the USA i know and i love.
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: youdamushi on January 26, 2017, 01:04:29 PM Last time I checked USA was still priding themselves as being the main country spreading democracy and freedom around the world. They are spreading democracy by bombing the hospitals and overthrowing the democratically elected governments? I really doubt whether that is going to work. But then, the topic is about the UN membership of the United States. Why should they contribute so much money to the organization and its splinter wings, if they get nothing in return? You give more when you have more... And the idea is that when you will be in need others will do the same. I know it sounds really incredible for conservatives but that's actually not such a bad idea. It's also because if you don't help those in needs they won't be able to bring anything to the world. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: bryant.coleman on January 26, 2017, 01:27:44 PM Last time I checked USA was still priding themselves as being the main country spreading democracy and freedom around the world. They are spreading democracy by bombing the hospitals and overthrowing the democratically elected governments? I really doubt whether that is going to work. But then, the topic is about the UN membership of the United States. Why should they contribute so much money to the organization and its splinter wings, if they get nothing in return? You give more when you have more... And the idea is that when you will be in need others will do the same. It is not about solidarity. It is about the merit. If you give the same voting right to the United States (population of 330 million, GDP of $20 trillion) and Nauru (Population of 10,000 and GDP of <$1 million), then naturally the question will arise why you are not giving voting rights to states such as California (population of 39 million, GDP of $2.5 trillion). Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: BADecker on January 27, 2017, 07:54:54 PM Last time I checked USA was still priding themselves as being the main country spreading democracy and freedom around the world. They are spreading democracy by bombing the hospitals and overthrowing the democratically elected governments? I really doubt whether that is going to work. But then, the topic is about the UN membership of the United States. Why should they contribute so much money to the organization and its splinter wings, if they get nothing in return? You give more when you have more... And the idea is that when you will be in need others will do the same. It is not about solidarity. It is about the merit. If you give the same voting right to the United States (population of 330 million, GDP of $20 trillion) and Nauru (Population of 10,000 and GDP of <$1 million), then naturally the question will arise why you are not giving voting rights to states such as California (population of 39 million, GDP of $2.5 trillion). It's not about "giving ... rights." You don't give rights. Rights are inherent. This is the thing that people simply won't accept or understand. People have all the rights. They have any rights. They have the right to freely associate. But they can barely use their rights if they don't get their heads screwed on, and realize that they have them. State sponsored ballot initiatives are simply methods to determine if people are going to use their rights in whatever initiative is on the ballot. http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/211566-2017-01-27-calexit-state-approves-california-nation-to-collect-signatures.htm The people don't need the State to do this. They don't have to wait for other people. In fact, using the ballot actually undermines one of the basic rights in America... the right to private property. As long as you are simply living, if someone else messes with your living conditions, and you haven't obstructed the rights of someone else, he is messing with your property. You have always had the right to protect your private property... a right that people have had since the beginning of time. If you don't stand up and use the jury regarding your rights, but rather wait for a State ballot, you are handing your rights over tho the leaders of the State. 8) Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 27, 2017, 10:54:44 PM That is good news. The United States of America must now stop wasting their resources controlling other countries through the guise of the United Nations. Trump has seen that the previous administration is using the UN activities so the oligarchs can bring our millions of dollars in form of aid to other countries to fund their own greediness. Its time for the UN to be independent of USA and move on for the betterment without the strings pulled by the USA. The UN was created to prevent war in the world, but each country has its own interests. They try to impose these interests by force. If the UN will fall apart then the world could plunge into chaos.Yes... the United Nations was the successor to the League of Nations. But after a promising start, the UN became a toothless body from 1980 onward. It was unable to prevent conflicts from happening (such as those in Sudan and Afghanistan) and it couldn't act against human rights abuses perpetrated by various dictatorships and juntas. Exactly, if it comes to a largel conflict the UN will fail just as the League of Nations did You also didn't mention the aggression on Croatia and Bosnia&Herzegovina Where Vukovar and Srebrenica happened while the UNs blue helmets drank coffee while Serbs butchered and tortured people inside the cities Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: gabmen on January 29, 2017, 05:12:04 AM Its still a shame how a nation founded on the principle of freedom has completely turned around on its principles and are just doing what it like without a care to the consequences of their actions. Hopefully Trump will bring back the Glory of the USA i know and i love. Well that seems to be farfetched if you base it on the recent decisions trump has been making. Although he may have a point in banning citizens from some mideastern countries for security, it doesnt change the fact that racism is not very humane for a president of one of the most powerful countries. I admire mr. Trudeau of canada for stepping up for humanity where i think trump bungled. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: BADecker on January 29, 2017, 05:19:24 AM Its still a shame how a nation founded on the principle of freedom has completely turned around on its principles and are just doing what it like without a care to the consequences of their actions. Hopefully Trump will bring back the Glory of the USA i know and i love. Well that seems to be farfetched if you base it on the recent decisions trump has been making. Although he may have a point in banning citizens from some mideastern countries for security, it doesnt change the fact that racism is not very humane for a president of one of the most powerful countries. I admire mr. Trudeau of canada for stepping up for humanity where i think trump bungled. Trump isn't God. He isn't even a king. Two thirds or three quarters majority in Congress, depending, can overrule anything he does. And people can overrule anything he does that they feel harms them, through the courts, using jury nullification. 8) Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: babsalt1975 on January 29, 2017, 05:50:20 AM Whether the news are credible or not, the fact is there might be a 'UNexit' for US. Considering the facts put across, how can the US provide a lot of funding to a body which does not support its ideals?. The US taxpayer is being made to pay for something he does not like. He is spending his money on someone who is using his money on the enemies. This might come to pass.
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: The One on January 29, 2017, 01:26:10 PM The UN and other international bodies are a pile of cr@p anyway. Waste of taxpayers' money. They often get together to plan new laws and suddenly similar laws pops up in many countries without the local people having a say or wanting it. The UN was created to prevent wars in the future. Since then we had about 250 wars, thus concluding that the UN as an organisation has failed miserably. Why then do we fund it? Now the UN is encroaching into national sovereignty against the will of the local populace. If the UN were to collapse then i would be cheering.
Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Sithara007 on January 29, 2017, 01:47:04 PM Exactly, if it comes to a largel conflict the UN will fail just as the League of Nations did You also didn't mention the aggression on Croatia and Bosnia&Herzegovina Where Vukovar and Srebrenica happened while the UNs blue helmets drank coffee while Serbs butchered and tortured people inside the cities No one are angels in the Balkans conflict. All the warring sides were engaged in ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity. Serbs, Croats, Shqips, Bosnian Turks.... all of them used violence. In the end, it was the Croats and the Serbs who lost. Serbs lost Krajina and Kosovo, while the Croats lost their territories in Bosnia. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 30, 2017, 07:57:23 PM Exactly, if it comes to a largel conflict the UN will fail just as the League of Nations did You also didn't mention the aggression on Croatia and Bosnia&Herzegovina Where Vukovar and Srebrenica happened while the UNs blue helmets drank coffee while Serbs butchered and tortured people inside the cities No one are angels in the Balkans conflict. All the warring sides were engaged in ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity. Serbs, Croats, Shqips, Bosnian Turks.... all of them used violence. In the end, it was the Croats and the Serbs who lost. Serbs lost Krajina and Kosovo, while the Croats lost their territories in Bosnia. That is untrue. Croats didn't have organized ethnic cleansing actions Every crime that happened was individual and PUNISHED by their own generals While Serbian generals commanded executions of thousands of people only based on their nationality Most crimes of the Muslims were comitted by El Mudžahid Serbs were the only ones with mass civilian murder plans, do not try to change history. Serbs did not lose Krajina, Krajina was never Serbian. Since the 7th century, no part, 0% of Croatia was ever a part of Serbia. Never. Their "Krajina" plans were actually plans of Ottoman conquests :) And the Serbs won the war in Bosnia since they got their "Republic of Srpska" based on genocide of Croats and Muslims on the territory, which will soon follow the Crimean scenario and descend the region into a new war. Title: Re: US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill Post by: Sithara007 on January 31, 2017, 05:02:44 AM And the Serbs won the war in Bosnia since they got their "Republic of Srpska" based on genocide of Croats and Muslims on the territory, which will soon follow the Crimean scenario and descend the region into a new war. Anyway... the Serbs got the Republic of Srpska and the Muslims got the Federation. What did you got in return? Look at the last census. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_population_census_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#Ethnic_groups The Muslim population is growing, and the Serb population is stable. Only the Croat population is declining. |
