Title: orphaned block Post by: chrisvl on January 24, 2017, 10:20:07 PM A question if a miner submit a block and marked as orphaned can re submit it ? what are the chances a blockexplorer to shows a block as orphaned when the block is valid ?
Title: Re: orphaned block Post by: unamis76 on January 24, 2017, 10:39:43 PM A question if a miner submit a block and marked as orphaned can re submit it ? No, he can't. There isn't any "known parent" (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Orphan_Block) to that block. what are the chances a blockexplorer to shows a block as orphaned when the block is valid ? Error from the blockchain explorer, or the blockchain explorer followed a fork. Title: Re: orphaned block Post by: chrisvl on January 24, 2017, 10:43:58 PM A question if a miner submit a block and marked as orphaned can re submit it ? No, he can't. There isn't any "known parent" (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Orphan_Block) to that block. what are the chances a blockexplorer to shows a block as orphaned when the block is valid ? Error from the blockchain explorer, or the blockchain explorer followed a fork. Title: Re: orphaned block Post by: -ck on January 24, 2017, 10:45:30 PM i know that that he cant,but i see something which made a little to be surprised,i see a block in blockchain.info as orphan and then as vaild That just means blockchain.info was originally looking at the wrong fork that then ended up losing the orphan race to see which block eventually became labelled as valid.Title: Re: orphaned block Post by: chrisvl on January 24, 2017, 10:49:02 PM i know that that he cant,but i see something which made a little to be surprised,i see a block in blockchain.info as orphan and then as vaild That just means blockchain.info was originally looking at the wrong fork that then ended up losing the orphan race to see which block eventually became labelled as valid.Title: Re: orphaned block Post by: chrisvl on January 24, 2017, 10:49:40 PM Thank guys
Title: Re: orphaned block Post by: DannyHamilton on January 25, 2017, 12:08:47 AM i see something which made a little to be surprised,i see a block in blockchain.info as orphan and then as vaild There are two possibilities... 1. The very likely possibility. Blockchain.info has a bug and displayed the block as orphaned when they shouldn't have. Later they fixed the problem and showed the block as not orphaned. 2. The much less likely possibility. The block became orphaned, and then became not orphaned. This doesn't require the miner to re-submit the block. It just requires that the orphaned fork grow long enough to be the longest chain. Theoretical example:
Title: Re: orphaned block Post by: Kakmakr on January 25, 2017, 05:56:30 AM Just to add something, I noticed Blockchain.info is not updating or reflecting the situation as quickly as other block explorers for some reason. I have 3 transactions unconfirmed for more than 18 hours at the moment, and when I use Blockchain.info, it does not even show that the transactions are unconfirmed.
When I used https://blockexplorer.com it showed the status immediately. So this might just be a bug in Blockchain.info software. < A delay between what is shown, and what the real situation is > ^hmmmmm^ |