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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Altcoin Discussion => Topic started by: btcmind on April 15, 2013, 12:10:50 AM



Title: Shorting BTC via Ripple
Post by: btcmind on April 15, 2013, 12:10:50 AM
Could a group of traders with collective trust short BTCs against USD via Ripple?


Title: Re: Shorting BTC via Ripple
Post by: freequant on April 24, 2013, 02:20:29 PM
Even Granny can short BTC with Ripple.
All it takes is for someone to accept Granny's BTC IOUs in exchange for more liquid BTC IOUs like Bitstamp's.
Granny can then sell the Bitstamp BTC IOUs for USD IOUs, and wait for BTC to crash.
Granny is now short Bitstamp BTC.


Title: Re: Shorting BTC via Ripple
Post by: wingding on April 26, 2013, 04:57:17 PM
Even Granny can short BTC with Ripple.
All it takes is for someone to accept Granny's BTC IOUs in exchange for more liquid BTC IOUs like Bitstamp's.
Granny can then sell the Bitstamp BTC IOUs for USD IOUs, and wait for BTC to crash.
Granny is now short Bitstamp BTC.
Short selling require the seller to borrow the coins. Hence, a counterparty is required, i.e. someone holding the long position. Why should anyone trust Granny's IOU just like that? I can't see how this can be done without a broker, just as in conventional markets. Though I must admit do not understand Ripple completely, so perhaps I missed something here.