Title: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2017, 05:13:25 PM I just got back form the Eye doctor. My Eyes are dilated so I won't set these up until tonight, but early photos are below.
Full size links https://i.imgur.com/Ptj56Z4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V8MOB8Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ccJdloz.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KBjOlCN.jpg Here they are side by side Same photos as above but smaller. https://i.imgur.com/hD8g5BT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4o86Vdd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QII7PRZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xnGbvgo.jpg Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: murasame2003 on January 30, 2017, 05:19:30 PM Looking forward to your review.
After looking these pictures, I'm just wondering how to measure core voltage... ??? Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: sidehack on January 30, 2017, 05:21:58 PM The two big ceramic caps up top are each in parallel with one ASIC. So measuring across each one gives each ASIC's voltage, and measuring between GND and the bottom cap gives total string voltage. That's where I'm probing during bench testing.
Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: murasame2003 on January 30, 2017, 05:56:53 PM Please bare with me since I don't know much about electronics :'(
Did I understand you right? https://i.imgur.com/FCY9jC5.jpg Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: sidehack on January 30, 2017, 06:01:47 PM Dead-on correct.
Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:43 PM Please bare with me since I don't know much about electronics :'( fixed it for youDid I understand you right? https://i.imgur.com/FCY9jC5.jpg Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: murasame2003 on January 30, 2017, 06:43:50 PM Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: leowonderful on January 30, 2017, 09:32:10 PM I don't quite like the silver heatsink as I'm too used to the green one, same goes for the blank frontside pcb. Not a big deal but I don't like changes too much :)
Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: sidehack on January 30, 2017, 09:47:19 PM The plain silver heatsink is because my regular supplier of heatsinks wasn't gonna be able to provide a bid until March, and after the procurement agent I handed the request to did a little bit of legwork and then forgot about the whole thing, I just bought a bunch of cut-to-length on short notice and got a guy drilling them out here in the shop. Nothing fancy, sorry.
The blank side of the stick won't be blank on the production version. Both US and bitshopper versions have a full-logo silkscreen and whatnot like the original Compac, I just didn't care to do all the manual mirror-image edits for that layer in time for the prototype sticks. Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2017, 10:18:09 PM OKay After a rocky start. I have a fully working start.bat file
cgminer -o stratum+tcp://mmpool.org:3333 -u philipma1957.A --gekko-compac-freq 225 --gekk0-2pac-freq 200-p x I set the 1 chip to 225 and the 2 chip to 200 see below https://i.imgur.com/nteuxUO.jpg Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: sidehack on January 30, 2017, 10:34:00 PM The two-chip shipped with voltage set for 100MHz stable. Looks like you need to turn it up, getting ~100 errors per minute. Should level out to 22GH, about 300WU
Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on January 30, 2017, 10:47:18 PM The two-chip shipped with voltage set for 100MHz stable. Looks like you need to turn it up, getting ~100 errors per minute. Should level out to 22GH, about 300WU yeah when I saw the photo I realized it. So the + screw was like this X I turned it to + or from 10:30 to 12:00 it is now much more stable. and imgur.com is down I have 6 photos will post later. Stud hub with 2x usb2 for the 2pac. I can send it 2.2 amps at 5 volts = 11 watts I got compacs up to 400 freq with a fan on this hub and the doubler bridge I also burned a bridge doing 410 freq. https://i.imgur.com/rh0WCCy.jpg Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: ZACHM on January 30, 2017, 11:25:37 PM Phil, did you check what the X to + gave you for a voltage?
Based on your frequency and sidehacks numbers from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1651958.msg17620138#msg17620138 I would assume you should be around 1.32v-1.36v? Loving the pics. :) Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on January 31, 2017, 12:20:21 AM Phil, did you check what the X to + gave you for a voltage? Based on your frequency and sidehacks numbers from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1651958.msg17620138#msg17620138 I would assume you should be around 1.32v-1.36v? Loving the pics. :) I will get meters out on Tuesday. Once you get these sticks going it makes you all the more angry that sidehack was not given chips and chip support from bitmain for the s7 chips and the s9 chips. Thanks to bit fury maybe we will see true monster sticks one day. The windows build was pretty easy once I got the link from vh. I had to load zadig but that is a one shot deal. One nice thing is this rig. Is running a gpu on xmr. The profit it makes will allow me to run the sticks for free. here is the rig with higher volts setting and also running xmr quite and cool https://i.imgur.com/3o5eSLP.jpg Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: leowonderful on January 31, 2017, 01:03:13 AM The plain silver heatsink is because my regular supplier of heatsinks wasn't gonna be able to provide a bid until March, and after the procurement agent I handed the request to did a little bit of legwork and then forgot about the whole thing, I just bought a bunch of cut-to-length on short notice and got a guy drilling them out here in the shop. Nothing fancy, sorry. Ah sounds good, thanks for the clarification. Figured that it'd be this way but I wasn't sure. Not that big of a deal to me anyways, miners are miners :)The blank side of the stick won't be blank on the production version. Both US and bitshopper versions have a full-logo silkscreen and whatnot like the original Compac, I just didn't care to do all the manual mirror-image edits for that layer in time for the prototype sticks. Phil, this is the fan you're using, right? http://amzn.to/2kaGf8N Checked it out a while ago but I didn't know if it was good at all or not, might consider it after getting my 2pac. Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: takagari on January 31, 2017, 02:45:05 AM Very cool. I like it.
Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on January 31, 2017, 04:33:32 AM The plain silver heatsink is because my regular supplier of heatsinks wasn't gonna be able to provide a bid until March, and after the procurement agent I handed the request to did a little bit of legwork and then forgot about the whole thing, I just bought a bunch of cut-to-length on short notice and got a guy drilling them out here in the shop. Nothing fancy, sorry. Ah sounds good, thanks for the clarification. Figured that it'd be this way but I wasn't sure. Not that big of a deal to me anyways, miners are miners :)The blank side of the stick won't be blank on the production version. Both US and bitshopper versions have a full-logo silkscreen and whatnot like the original Compac, I just didn't care to do all the manual mirror-image edits for that layer in time for the prototype sticks. Phil, this is the fan you're using, right? http://amzn.to/2kaGf8N Checked it out a while ago but I didn't know if it was good at all or not, might consider it after getting my 2pac. your link is to the smaller 80 mm by 80 mm this one below is the 120 mm by 120 mm far better fan for up to 4-6 sticks at freq 200-300 not good enough for monster over clocking in the 375-410 freq area https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Mobile-External-Cooling-AF0007/dp/B002OJN250/ref=sr_1_2? For the record I corrected this post on the s-9 thread This has been corrected and the number is now 967 on both websites. So if you order that march 1 unit be sure to check and see that the numbers match on hashnest and bitmain as they should . Also if you purchased the s9 at the 917 rate ask for a refund of around 60 usd. I really would like to see and read if you got stuck and if they fix it. bitmain is quoting btc at 917 thus you lose about 65 dollars if you use coinbase. Hashnest has coins at 956 since hashnest and bitmain share the same website and are under the same umbrella it is really fucking bad that they do not match Take a look https://i.imgur.com/8fRqfTu.png Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: rockmoney on February 06, 2017, 09:50:05 PM Thanks for the information & review Phil - your setup is VERY nice! I can't seem to find that USB bridge that you're using, which looks much more convenient than using x2 male - x1 female USB cables. Can you please let me know where to purchase those?
Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on February 06, 2017, 11:37:21 PM Thanks for the information & review Phil - your setup is VERY nice! I can't seem to find that USB bridge that you're using, which looks much more convenient than using x2 male - x1 female USB cables. Can you please let me know where to purchase those? wish I did but they are no longer available. They came out back in the day of usb stick mining Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: leowonderful on February 07, 2017, 12:02:05 AM Thanks for the information & review Phil - your setup is VERY nice! I can't seem to find that USB bridge that you're using, which looks much more convenient than using x2 male - x1 female USB cables. Can you please let me know where to purchase those? wish I did but they are no longer available. They came out back in the day of usb stick mining Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on February 07, 2017, 12:12:28 AM Thanks for the information & review Phil - your setup is VERY nice! I can't seem to find that USB bridge that you're using, which looks much more convenient than using x2 male - x1 female USB cables. Can you please let me know where to purchase those? wish I did but they are no longer available. They came out back in the day of usb stick mining The y cables are pretty easy. That hard metal bridge not that easy. Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: leowonderful on February 07, 2017, 12:45:10 AM Thanks for the information & review Phil - your setup is VERY nice! I can't seem to find that USB bridge that you're using, which looks much more convenient than using x2 male - x1 female USB cables. Can you please let me know where to purchase those? wish I did but they are no longer available. They came out back in the day of usb stick mining The y cables are pretty easy. That hard metal bridge not that easy. Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: vapourminer on February 07, 2017, 11:45:30 AM those solid usb bridges were nice but they would be specific to a particular hub and useless for all others.
what might be nice is a simple circuit board with one usb plug/socket on the board and then a pigtail cable for the other usb plug so the board supports the miner and the pigtail plugs into any nearby socket. that way the miner is supported instead of flopping around, it gets extra power and it can be used with any hub. Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on February 07, 2017, 01:06:39 PM those solid usb bridges were nice but they would be specific to a particular hub and useless for all others. what might be nice is a simple circuit board with one usb plug/socket on the board and then a pigtail cable for the other usb plug so the board supports the miner and the pigtail plugs into any nearby socket. that way the miner is supported instead of flopping around, it gets extra power and it can be used with any hub. That would be good,but I have a fix if you can find the bridges. Fast check on the two sticks The have been running none stop since Feb 1 and HW = 0 for both sticks photos soon https://i.imgur.com/Zf6ETLK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/B67yQpz.jpg picture that on this https://i.imgur.com/pudIJxp.png Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: sidehack on February 07, 2017, 01:32:12 PM So you're proving vapourminer's idea can work. It'd be better with a much shorter cable.
Title: Re: SideHacks's TwoPac miner vs His Compac photos now review later. Post by: philipma1957 on February 08, 2017, 04:23:37 AM So you're proving vapourminer's idea can work. It'd be better with a much shorter cable. Just had those parts on hand. I am about to plug in the 2pac to it. |