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Title: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: Slow death on January 31, 2017, 09:40:55 AM
Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen

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Theresa May's decision to invite Donald Trump to a state visit has put the Queen in a "very difficult position", a former head of the Foreign Office says.


In a letter to The Times, Lord Ricketts said the offer had been "premature".
A petition calling for the state visit to be cancelled has gathered more than 1.6 million signatures.
On Monday, thousands of people across the UK joined protests against Mr Trump's travel ban on seven mainly Muslim countries.
The controversial immigration measures prompted an emergency debate in parliament on Monday.


Lord Ricketts, who was permanent secretary at the Foreign Office from 2006 to 2010, said it was unprecedented for a US president to be invited for a state visit in their first year in the White House.
He questioned whether Mr Trump was "specially deserving of this exceptional honour".

"It would have been far wiser to wait to see what sort of president he would turn out to be before advising the Queen to invite him.


"Now the Queen is put in a very difficult position," he said.




Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38805196


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: grermezter on January 31, 2017, 10:07:27 AM
What does he mean Trump is and i quote "specially deserving of this exceptional honor" I remember quite well that Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Price for doing absolutely nothing. was he deserving of it, not a bit that didnt even deter him from raining bombs on innocent civilians. Trump bar people from coming into the USA people are shouting but Obama rain bombs on innocent people and the media are mute.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: willieaames on January 31, 2017, 10:37:02 AM
Oh to be a fly on the wall during the next meeting between the Queen and Theresa May.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: Spendulus on January 31, 2017, 10:45:53 AM
What does he mean Trump is and i quote "specially deserving of this exceptional honor" I remember quite well that Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Price for doing absolutely nothing. was he deserving of it, not a bit that didnt even deter him from raining bombs on innocent civilians. Trump bar people from coming into the USA people are shouting but Obama rain bombs on innocent people and the media are mute.

Yea, pretty funny to watch all the "shocking stuff that Trump is doing," which translated means "We all looked the other way when Obama was doing terrible and actually shocking stuff,"  but hey now we are going to complain and nit pick about every little thing.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: yoseph on January 31, 2017, 11:06:57 AM
I blame the news agency as well, they have been inciting the people with these senseless and baseless attacks on Trump, he hadn't even taken the office when they started. But Trump doesnt care he is doing what he promised his voters. After all he cant please anyone.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: criptix on January 31, 2017, 12:51:43 PM
Its kinda funny hoe trump supporters talk so much about the black jesus - you could think obama got a 3rd term lol


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: Xester on January 31, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
Trump as a President has all the honours to be invited to a certain country. But it is right that Trump at the moment must not focus on travelling to different nation for state visit since there are many people who are against his policies and who go against him. He must first let the heat of the issue calm down before making any decision to do some state visit as to not place other countries leaders reputation at jeopardy.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: BADecker on January 31, 2017, 03:03:34 PM
Is it time to ban British travel in the U.S.?    8)


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: saddampbuh on January 31, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
most of the 1.6 million signatures are bots, if you think a majority of people in the uk or any european country want more muslims you belong in a mental asylum


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: BADecker on January 31, 2017, 06:56:43 PM
most of the 1.6 million signatures are bots, if you think a majority of people in the uk or any european country want more muslims you belong in a mental asylum

Are you trying to say that the European governments are asking for overthrow by their own citizens, and don't even know it?

8)


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: Sithara007 on February 01, 2017, 04:02:08 AM
most of the 1.6 million signatures are bots, if you think a majority of people in the uk or any european country want more muslims you belong in a mental asylum

I don't think that a majority of the people in any of the European nations want more Muslims. But I am sure that a majority of the politicians (including Angela Merkel and Theressa May) want more Muslims in their countries.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: Spendulus on February 01, 2017, 07:31:22 AM
I blame the news agency as well, they have been inciting the people with these senseless and baseless attacks on Trump, he hadn't even taken the office when they started. But Trump doesnt care he is doing what he promised his voters. After all he cant please anyone.

It's rather interesting that people around the world seem to think they have the right to demand that Trump please them.

I can't remember ever thinking Merkel should please me.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: gabmen on February 01, 2017, 10:45:02 AM
I blame the news agency as well, they have been inciting the people with these senseless and baseless attacks on Trump, he hadn't even taken the office when they started. But Trump doesnt care he is doing what he promised his voters. After all he cant please anyone.

It's rather interesting that people around the world seem to think they have the right to demand that Trump please them.

I can't remember ever thinking Merkel should please me.

Well i think the international community and media just isn't used to trump's style of governance. Even during the campaign period he isn't showing the traditional approach politicians usually do and i think him being a bit harsh towards people of different color and religion made a lot of leaders weary about him


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: Spendulus on February 01, 2017, 11:54:38 AM
I blame the news agency as well, they have been inciting the people with these senseless and baseless attacks on Trump, he hadn't even taken the office when they started. But Trump doesnt care he is doing what he promised his voters. After all he cant please anyone.

It's rather interesting that people around the world seem to think they have the right to demand that Trump please them.

I can't remember ever thinking Merkel should please me.

Well i think the international community and media just isn't used to trump's style of governance. Even during the campaign period he isn't showing the traditional approach politicians usually do and i think him being a bit harsh towards people of different color and religion made a lot of leaders weary about him

I can agree with that.  Of course we really don't know much yet about his style of governance...


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: chachaa on February 01, 2017, 11:57:30 AM
I blame the news agency as well, they have been inciting the people with these senseless and baseless attacks on Trump, he hadn't even taken the office when they started. But Trump doesnt care he is doing what he promised his voters. After all he cant please anyone.

It's rather interesting that people around the world seem to think they have the right to demand that Trump please them.

I can't remember ever thinking Merkel should please me.

Well i think the international community and media just isn't used to trump's style of governance. Even during the campaign period he isn't showing the traditional approach politicians usually do and i think him being a bit harsh towards people of different color and religion made a lot of leaders weary about him
I'm sure that Trump will not be allowed to communicate with the Queen of great Britain. It's like letting a bull in a shop of pottery. The English monarchy is conservative and respects their traditions. Trump is an idiot and can turn this meeting into a circus.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: jennytrout on May 05, 2017, 11:39:51 AM
She could reasonably fake an illness that prevents her from playing host to foreign dignitaries.


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: SimmonenY on May 05, 2017, 11:50:30 AM
Oh, I would really like to see thier conversation and how Trump will embarrass himself


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: mainpmf on May 05, 2017, 12:05:01 PM
What does he mean Trump is and i quote "specially deserving of this exceptional honor" I remember quite well that Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Price for doing absolutely nothing. was he deserving of it, not a bit that didnt even deter him from raining bombs on innocent civilians. Trump bar people from coming into the USA people are shouting but Obama rain bombs on innocent people and the media are mute.

Sure but everyone now is spitting on Obama nobel prize
Well in the same way inviting Trump so fast is really unfit to the usual way of proceding for UK.

It's not because Obama was shitty that Trump is excused you know?


Title: Re: Trump state visit plan 'very difficult' for Queen
Post by: E-shipper on May 06, 2017, 12:09:51 AM
What does he mean Trump is and i quote "specially deserving of this exceptional honor" I remember quite well that Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Price for doing absolutely nothing. was he deserving of it, not a bit that didnt even deter him from raining bombs on innocent civilians. Trump bar people from coming into the USA people are shouting but Obama rain bombs on innocent people and the media are mute.

Sure but everyone now is spitting on Obama nobel prize
Well in the same way inviting Trump so fast is really unfit to the usual way of proceding for UK.

It's not because Obama was shitty that Trump is excused you know?
We still can not evaluate Trump for his work, because he has not done anything yet, and for the same reason we can not compare with Obama.