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I dont see any Islamic nations taking in the refugees. Countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar are more than capable to take in and feed these refugees. Is it mandatory that the USA should take them in, why dont they want to go to other Islamic States?

Im think they planning it but according to my research about this topic Qatar donated over $1.6bn for humanitarian purposes.And the Saudi Arabia also claim that they receive 2.5 million Syrian refugees since 2011.

Sum all countries that claim to had receive Syrian refugees and you get the oddity of know those countries already received 3 or 4x the whole Syrian population in Syrian refugees... ::)

Still, they've a good reason, despite for an outsider it's "Islam", they're way too fractionated, they're aren't quite "the same Islam" and have internal conflicts that may cause severe social unrest. In short a Syrian running from ISIS to Saudi Arabia would be running to ISIS' bosses home, as ISIS aligns more to Wahhabbis than to any other flavor of Islam.

It's a tricky one, because many people who are displaced and end up in countries like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and UAE aren't always classed as "refugees".  The numbers end up skewed as a result.  


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chaker-khazaal/no-arab-gulf-countries-ar_b_8280448.html


But yes, the general impression is that places like Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt are taking a higher percentage of refugees than others.  Certainly more than most western nations and definitely far more than the US.  But in those countries they may potentially experience lower standards of life, which is why many choose to take the more dangerous risk of crossing the Mediterranean in a dinghy to reach Europe.  Or, in a smaller number of cases, managing to secure passage to North America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/14/the-real-refugee-crisis-is-in-the-middle-east-not-europe/?utm_term=.ff68fbc16d0a

Haha! Maybe they just don't like those people in their countries, just as those people want to go to Europe instead. Those people are actually luckier than the other Muslims in transit, Rohingyas. ASEAN countries ping-ponged the Rohingyas at sea and they don't have the luxury of going to something similar to the EU.

USA taking in Islams? haven't you heard what Trump said about Islam or Muslims?
Trump is not willing to accept them.

nope and nope , Qatar and SA are the seed of the so called syrian revolution so they only pay money for weapons and more bombing in Syria
Qatar and Saudi Arabia didn't receive a single refugee , they claim that they are paying millions for refugees in other countries but that's BS
if they really care they would had received some refugees

On the Euro-American el-Dorado, I'm more concern about the irresponsibility of some political leaders. So eager to look good in the picture, many engaged in invitation propaganda that resumes to disaster as their capacity falls too short of their good will.
In the end many of them will find themselves stuck in the middle of frozen land as poor as they arrive, totally neglected in a strange land with a weather they aren't used to.
There's nothing worse than feed expectations and not fulfill them!

There are several reasons for many refugees who choose to Europe rather than to Middle Eastern. I've discussed this with few of my friends on a trip and I think this reasonable.

- Islamic countries want war in Syria quickly completed so that refugees scattered around the world can get together and rebuild their country. Provide the same settlement only stalling for time so that the war continues
- Islamic countries have spent huge amounts of money to finance the lives of the refugees, while other countries only build settlements while funding will be sucked from Islamic countries as well.
- Islamic countries protested against Russia, China and Iran, which does not help Syrian refugees directly, whereas these three countries known to be close as a traditional ally of Syria.

Besides Middle East countries are also not ready to accommodate the large number of refugees that reached almost 4 million, because residents there are very few and not the usual accommodate many refugees. For example in 1991, when a Kuwait people fleeing from conflict with Iraq under Saddam Hussein, Saudi Arabia only accommodate hundreds of thousands of refugees.

Saudi Arabia has given refugee status to less than 100 individuals during the last 50 years. And only 3 or 4 are from Syria. But it is true that they are importing slave labor from Syria. They have given work permits to a few hundred thousand Syrians (usually for 3 months). 

I guess paying for and encouraging terrorists is one form, sort of, of paying millions for refugees, in some twisted sick minds.

Well you have a good point there as i think everyone has the responsibility to help each other. Though i think the reason why the us is being given a bigger responsibility is because if the previous administration hadn't bombed these middle eastern countries, we wouldn't have all these refugees at all. I mean i admire obama but i think he didnt do well in the issue in the middle east. And as much as i dont agree with this policy by trump, i cant really blame the man if this is what he seems right

because the other islamic nations are not as wealthy or as developed as the western civilization

also they watch too many hollywood

I think that is the strategy of Muslim States intended to spread Islam to the whole world. Remember how to operate the Chinese authorities? I think it's the same thing. Only the Chinese are less aggressive behave

People are literally raping, killing and destroying each other's lives, only thing we need for them to stop doing that, we don't need anyone's help.
ISIS intentionally caused terror and panic to force people to leave their homeland why? because they need an empty country to establish their so called Islamic state.
I have a great idea, US just needs to nuke Syria, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan and get on with it, why torturing millions of innocent women and children?

Either they are the roots and sponsors for terrorism or they are not, if they are then why hesitate to vanquish the bad and evil?

Yep.  That's what it's about.  Plus Saudi doesn't want the percentage of terrorists in those so called "Refugees."

Then over at the side there's the warped twisted sickface of George Soros, manipulating puppets of the world on "open borders."

Saudi Arabia sponsors as Islamist groups and preachers of Islam. Who wants to destroy the country sponsor? I am sure that Saudi Arabia does not threaten terrorist acts. They are just spreading Islam around the world.

It is not mandatory for the United States of America to take in refugees from other states like Syria. But since the United States of America is a member of the United Nations who promote humanitarian causes then they are somehow obliged to take in refugees in their country as a model for other allied countries.

The reason why refugees are not taking refuge in Arab countries due to poor welfare programs for the immigrants and the government is very strict. The United States of America and the European Union has good welfare and humanitarian programs for the immigrants thus they keep coming like ants into this parts of the world.

It seems to me that the reason is not only large benefits. It seems to me that the government is not engaged in order to force the refugees to work and not live on welfare. What prevents to get people receiving benefits to build the same wall?

Yes, I think that local governments must know what are the refugees to work and not live. Local governments must know the benefits, all the benefits from local government can issue what are the main benefits, and what are the benefits what we are need. We need to know what are the benefits for us, and what government's benefits will they give to us.

USA is now not accepting foreigner to go to their country that from the 7 nations including the Syria this is according to the Trump migrant law.

About time. Ridiculously degenerated political correctness claiming that everyone has right to do whatever they want and are equal in their stupidity,
along with idiotic immigrant laws will cause America to fall, Trump realized that but brainwashed masses are still tagging him as racist and chauvinist.

We could bring back Ellis Island.  See how these remoaners like that. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3wJpIRRaxk

Oh, wait, I forgot.  The whole deal here is to pressure DISREGARD FOR LAWS that don't fit the trend of the moment.

yeah right, Donald Trump hated Islam, was so hated, he came to say that Islam is not allowed to enter the United States. Whether it is the attitude that should be done by a leader? You will rarely see the news about the merits carried out by Islamic countries in the world. Media too busy posting bad things only.

Wait, so now the Great Satan is refusing to take in Muslims?

I have to think about that one.

:)

I think Islam have different sects too and some Islamic Nations are allied to the Western countries which don't want to accept refugees and followed suit.

The United States accepted more than 50,000 Muslim "refugees" in 2015. Germany accepted close to 1,200,000. Saudi Arabia granted refugee status to a grand total of three individuals. And you are still claiming that all the fault lies with the western nations.

But hey, the US is the bad guys, not Saudi Arabia.

Funniest thing, we've seen this before.

Exxon, the mother of all Evil Oil.  Saudi Arabia and it's oil companies --- NEVER MENTIONED!

No matter what the country as refugees. It is important to the process of adaptation of refugees. The mistake of Western countries is that they do not create the process of assimilation of refugees.

If western countries are doing the SAME THING they did in 1900, 1930, 1960, and 1990, then today, somehow, now, they are "making a mistake"?

Such errors can be very expensive. In the modern world it is impossible to close in the territory of the state. World politics has to be right. Or need to change the government. I hope Americans will replace Trump.

Yet the West is expected to blindly take mass quantities of un-vetted refugees into its borders. Its the definition of insanity.

During the last 30 years, Saudi Arabia was earning an average of $300 billion from the high crude oil prices. They spent most of this money on two things. The first was brainwashing of moderate Muslims, such as those in Bangladesh and Indonesia. The second part was spent on buying mainstream media journalists and politicians in the Western nations.

You're lying. Citizens of Saudi Arabia do not work and live at the expense of funds which are paid to them from the sale of oil. In Russia the people are living like beggars. They generally have nothing to do with the sale of oil.

I am tired of your Ukrainian spam. This topic is about the lack of support and compassion shown by the Muslim nations towards refugees who belong to their own religion. You don't need to copy paste your anti-Russian spam 24x7 here.

And for your information, only the members of the Saudi royal family directly benefit from the oil money. The others benefit indirectly, but as the population is growing, they need to find some alternate source of revenue as well.

You probably have something confused. Only Russian spam. That's why you were holding Russian and tried on the forum to convince yourself that you are not from Russia. As for Saudi Arabia they are really nasty Muslims. IZH not interested in the fate of other Muslims.

All this won't be necessary when government will be responsible for its citizen and that is the reason why I didn't castigate Donald Trump's decision although I have reservations about the implementation which should have made some exemptions. But that being said ni country is under an obligation to help another country is purely out of cheer goodwill whether its a Muslim country Christian country. All I simply asked is that they should just fixed their shit and stop bothering other countries who have their problems to deal with.

The government will never be responsible for their citizens. Rulers come to power and you know what else such a chance they may not be. So they have the desire to earn a lot of money to have enough for a lifetime.

Well i reckon as fellow moslem countries and since they are in the same Arab League, They would try and help each other. With Trump barring them i think its high time they step up and help their fellow moslems.

You are right here because now Saudi Arab's population growing very quickly and they need some other ways to manage this all which is long term work but right now they are not thinking about this they are doing some bad things which will bring them down very soon even they are so called oil rich state

Wait, so you want Muslim nations to exhibit Christian compassion and Christian charity?

Have to mull that over.

So why do we need the government if that structure is not giving us - citizens any benefits? We have to pay taxes and we expect something in return for our money.
I am not sure of what resposibilities you are talking about here exactly, it is not government's responsibility to wipe our asses after all.
I expect authorities to take care of migrant crisis not according to their bullshit doctrine but according to the will of the people, then we will see if Muslim migrants are welcome or not by the society.

With crude oil prices touching the $60 per barrel mark, the Saudis will be fine. But I can't guarantee about the future, if their population continues to grow at 3% per year. Also, they are wasting billions of USD in needless conflicts, such as those in Syria and Yemen.

And who told you that Saudi Arabia is not profitable to interfere in Syria. Via Turkey to establish direct supplies of oil and gas to Europe. That is what they are fighting. Russian beneficial to Syria has always been war.

It just seems like this saudi/arab nations are just letting the bigger nations spend their money fight their wars for them. And just sitting back and watching their wealth grow while their middle eastern brothers are dying. As if they really care for their own fellow man anyways.

that's the only reason you need. morons in the west seem to forget that differing strains of muslims hate each other plenty more than a westerner hates all of them.

and i always find it kind of ironic when people shout about western intolerance. can you imagine what would happen if 2 million american evagelicals sought sanctuary in saudi arabia? they'd be rounded up into football stadiums and slowly hacked into little pieces.

I saw Saudia Arabia speaking to the US and in the talks it was decided that they'll be supporting "safe zones" for refugees. I'll take that as saying that they'll be accepting refugees and I guess that's a start.

One Islamic Nation down, many more to go!

It is not possible to construct an oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia to Europe. For doing that, they need to route the pipeline through either Syria or Iraq. Both these nations are not in favor of such a pipeline. Even if such a pipeline is constructed, the length of the pipeline would mean that it is not economically viable.

Islamic nations is not the problem but all the other countries who fails to keep their house in order and made themselves a joke to the outside world. Telling Islamic countries to absorb them is more to me like a blackmail since they are equally Muslims. But these countries made their countries better or else they wont be a choice for the refugees and I support that they should also go back home and fix their country and other countries should offer support in that regard only.

This deep polarization which is being created in our society worries me .
I hoped for a better future for our generation with the birth of technology but religion is still dividing Human mankind  .

Deep thoughts .

The cost of the gas pipeline and oil pipeline in the desert several times cheaper than in Russia and the Black sea. So his build and operate cheaper than Russia, and given the number of stakeholders in the project countries, it will generally cost you a penny.

Yes, they will support ''safe zones'' for refugees in Syria but they will not accept refuges from Syria or Iraq in their own country :)
Can you believe than christian Germany accepted one million Muslim refugees and Muslim Saudi Arabia zero?
We all know how rich is Saudi Arabia so it's difficult to understand it.
It's fact that Saudi Arabia is not democratic country but brutal dictatorship.
Iraq and Syria was democracy.
It seems that Saudi Arabia don't want them because they are afraid that other, open minded Muslims, will influence their own citizens in a bad way (with crazy ideas about freedom and democracy). :)

The fact that in order to live in a democratic society need to be mentally prepared. Most Muslims are mentally prone to autocracy. They themselves are tyrants and want to be governed by tyrants.

Ridiculous! Just use Google to get the respective numbers. A gas pipeline from Saudi Arabia to the Europe is going to cost at least $100 billion, compared to the Nord Stream 2, which is expected to cost less than $10 billion. And in addition to the expenses, who is going to take care of the security?

First security will ensure stakeholders, secondly the quality of Arab hydrocarbons above the Russian and thirdly they can be cheaper. The danger for such a pipeline can represent only Russia.

turkey  take 50% of refugee 

Turkey needs slave labor, and therefore they have taken a lot of these Syrians. Syrian laborers are getting paid $2 per day in Turkey. And moreover, they are dumping the criminals and the unwanted in Europe.

There are no slaves on $ 2 a day? The Syrians lazy. They do not want to work. They make their way to Europe to sit on the social and not work. Then they start to multiply like rabbits and the benefits our whole life.

the new president of america doest like the muslim and the muslim country
so there is no islamic refugee in us i think sooo

What's the difference. In America many immigrants from Mexico. America is a country of migrants. Now in the US of course nationalistic sentiments, but I think this only happens because the government pays little attention to migration policy. I am sure that if you send this thread in the right direction, then America would be even greater. Trump does not understand.

You do not understand. Do you see how immigrants behave in France, Germany, Swe, etc.. The problem is that they don't want to adapt to western way of life, and are mostly here for free money. Take a look at how they're crossing borders, they aren't waiting in line and following the procedure. America is a country of Legal immigrants.

@Casanova18 He dosen't like his people getting raped and giving money to money leeches.

I even though countries like Iraq chad and Dubai could  provide help for their fellow muslim. Just like a story told by our lord Jesus Christ about a question ask " who is my neighbour"? Muslim are not neighbours to each others but they expect united states of America to take them in. We should help them any way! And by doing so is a sign that we have the spirit of God inside us who gives both rain to the evil and good.

First of all, you need to differentiate between legal and illegal immigrants. Legal immigrants contribute to the society, while the illegal ones drain the state treasury. That is the reason why Trump has said that he will prioritize the legal immigrants over the illegals.

I disagree with you. A lot of legal immigrants do not contribute to the development of the state and primarily live through benefits and donations from benefactors. Believe me, a lot of these cases.

I just think that these countries had been helping out and it's just not covered by the media. I also think because Islamic countries have Muslim religionas their main one, a lot of people would think that they may not be capable of helpinh out. It's just amazing that they have the capability but not everyone welcomes the idea that they "can". U

In that case, these people might have migrated using the family chain migration options. It is the responsibility of the immigration authorities to deny visas to such people, who can drain the resources.

Most of us consider muslims as terrorists. But we must consider that not all hates muslims. Some are afraid of being accused as being terrorist. But we must consider the goodnessnof every person. Everyone of us doesnt consider war as a resolution of the problem we must join hands to promote unity for every religion

As an athiest, I will pass on your offer.

But I will be happy to buy the beer, anytime.

:)

What about eradicating religions altogether from the face of the earth? If there is no religion, then a lot of good things can happen to the human civilization. During the past 2,000 years, religion has brought only sorrow and heartache to the humans.

On the one hand you are right, but on the other hand religion is largely supersedes the criminal code for believers. If you do not take into account Islam. In fact, religions seek to subjugate the people, and thus contribute to the reduction of crime

It has certainly brought a lot of happiness to the humans also.

Well I guess losing all religion in the world won't necessarily do us any better. There would be weaker sense of control for everyone.

The control freaks in the populations would just find another avenue to oppress people with.

I do not see any methods of control over man. It seems to me that under the pretext of combating terrorism will soon be asked to put the chip to all migrants. Then this rule will apply to other people.

Actually before the migration was a very positive thing and not even particularly could be resent. Of course America has long been faced with migrants from South America, and this adds to the problems even crime. But what is happening today in Europe, then it is beyond normal understanding. It's chaos. In this way it will destroy Europe.

From what I've read, they seem to be sending money but they don't want those people in their countries. Probably afraid that they would also cause problems there. The Middle East already have a booming population and it's easy to see why they don't want more people in (three words: BREED LIKE RABBITS). Their way of living is starting to become unsustainable, the drop in oil price last year made that painfully clear to them. The monarchs are probably fearing that having their population see these people living on welfare would make them more resentment of the privileges of the royals.


Image of man living of the welfare his wives and children are receiving is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your comment.

I agree with you. The Germans did not appreciate the consequences of the fact that the majority of migrants cannot and does not want to work. They go to Europe to sit on the Dole and not work. Even if they receive a third of the benefits they will earn more than in their own country. This could weaken the EU economy.

If we take the situation with Europe, the current migrants hope for the benefit and at the expense of this they want to live. If truth be told, then in Europe such a benefit that in some countries, wages are lower.
And the charitable  organizations help with everything necessary, so nobody really intends to work there. But this is a boring exception to the rules. Most people go to another country for a better life and work there to live, not to beg from the state or engage in crime.

This does not apply to immigrants from poor Muslim countries. To live at the expense of people with other religion in Islam is considered to be good because they don't consider infidels for the people.

Outside Mecca lies a  camp for pilgrims. It houses a million people in airconditioned tents and had all amenities anyone away from home could ask for.

This camp remains unoccupied for the greater part of the year.

This is because the migrants want to escape not so much from the war as to move in wealthy Western countries where unemployment benefits are higher than wages in their countries.

Yes that's the practical way of looking at it. I cannot however dismiss this feeling I have in my underbelly what tells me they're simply colonizing in the name of their book. The benefits just pays to get them through the day.

Europe has already realized his mistake in migration policy and Germany began the mass deportation, but the migrants be given € 5,000 for the resettlement in their country. As Hungary, the Czech Republic, Estonia and many other EU countries build walls on their borders to prevent the influx of new migrants.

Turkey isn't an Islamic Repuclic *yet* but it has a muslim majority of +%90 and Turkey has the most refugees at the moment. You should count them in too.

Refugees don't want to live in Saudi Arabia or Qatar anyway. They are after money and white chicks :)

Germany get prepared!  ;D

First rape the country and it's policies, then rape it's women.

The reason why they leave their country is because of war, poverty and hunger. If they migrate into another Muslim country they will still suffer the same fate since there are no humanitarian aides that will be given to them and they will still die from hunger and poverty. But western countries especially those who are part of the united nations are a members of countries who are promoting humanitarian rights and due to that they are obliged to offer humanitarian aide, shelter and assistance to the immigrants.

Recently, Merkel went to Turkey and was not able to negotiate with Erdogan on the occasion of the migrants. I think that Europe will strengthen the protection of its borders and the bulk of the refugees will remain in Turkey. Blackmail Erdogan will not work.

Saudi Arabia has rejected criticism about the fact that she too is of little help in resolving the crisis over Syrian refugees. In the media too many false accusations against the Kingdom.
According to a senior representative of the foreign Ministry in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia since the conflict began in Syria in 2011, took almost 2.5 million Syrians, while these people are not treated as refugees, they are not housed in camps for migrants, and they can move freely around the country. These people also receive free medical care and have access to the labour market.

In fact Turkey doesn't have a Muslim population of +90%, it's just like that because of the old IDs. In the old IDs we had a Religion space with the default value being Islam, I had so many Christian, Atheist, Deist etc. friends and relatives that didn't change it, it's more like 70-75+ in my opinion.

Turkey is benefiting a lot from the Syrian slave labor and that is the only reason why they are hosting so many refugees. There is a construction boom in Turkey, as a result of the cheap labor. Also, many of the Turkish human traffickers became millionaires overnight as a result of the highly lucrative human smuggling business.

From a quick Google search, it looks like they do.

Why do you think that the work of Syrians in Turkey a slave? They are paid money for work. If they think that the money is small then it does not work. It is normal market relations. Why pay more if you have the opportunity to pay less?

They are forced to work, as they don't have any other option. The disbursement of free food and medicine to the refugees in Turkey is very much sporadic. The construction companies are making use of this situation, by asking the refugees to work for $5 per day ($0.5 per hour).

And I think that's right. It is impossible to produce dependency. Why do you think local residents to feed their family should work, and the traitors who left their country in a difficult period must have food not working?

I do not mind refugees. I would not let them under any circumstances. They made their country the war may defend it. Another thing that can help them in the confrontation with the enemy, but this is different. How can you flee the country?

Religious minorities in Syria, such as the Yazidis and the Assyrians have legitimate reasons to flee the country. But the immigrants to the US/EU are overwhelmingly Muslim (around 99.8%), and their proportion is even greater than their percentage in the Syrian population (88%).

Turkey's Erdogan warns Dutch will pay price for dispute :D.

What like no kebab shops :D. Who wants to go to turkey shit hole. That's why so many in HOLLAND.

So why so many in Holland if turkey so great ;) Because it's a SHIT HOLE DUMP.

And your leaders treat you like shit while they live like kings..

HOLLAND YOU MAKE SURE NO MATTER WHAT THE COST DON'T LET THEM IN ..

If the Turks want a rally about turkey GO BACK TO TURKEY and rally no one stopping you..

If your in another country you obey by that countries peoples rules..

Now if your in TURKEY they can treat people like this and no action brought to the person who committed the crime..

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6 months ago it happened and they done nothing about it..

SO TELL THE TURKS TO FUCK OFF..The TURKS WHO ARE NOT INTO RELIGION ..I am sorry i don't mean to be horrible to you ..BUT you know your country as gone backward..

And to the UK MY HOME LAND you dare let this happen and the price your government will pay will be unreal.

Turkey says the Netherlands will 'pay the price' for denying entry to ministers in growing diplomatic spat

YOU RALLY IN YOUR OWN LANDS ABOUT YOUR OWN PEOPLE.          O  FUCKING  K

Cheeky fucker that turkish dude.

take your cheap leather coats and your cheap labour and your shitty smelly kebab shops and fuck off
ISLAMIST TURKISH FUCKS..

YOU ARE TAKING THE PISS..
I CANNOT BELIEVE HE IS EVEN TRYING TO HAVE A RALLY IN ANOTHER COUNTRY..

Have the leaders of Holland sold Holland to TURKEY..
Like we Brits SOLD LONDON TO SAUDI ARABIA ?..

Well if so i am taking it all back KING POPCORN..AND I WILL BOOT YOU OUT ON YOUR FUCKING ASS HOLES

OH and i am coming for the oil too ;)..You had your chance to mingle with us westerners AND YOU SPOILT IT.

Now we must throw you out..BYE BYE ISLAMS

I think that now in Holland there is a chance to deport Turks who will violate the law and will participate in the rallies. You clear country. Then it will be too late.

The Dutch are a bunch of brainwashed retards. They will never deport these law breakers, saying that it goes against the human rights. What can you expect when they even refuse to deport rapists and murderers?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3672387/Convicted-Somalian-rapist-overturned-deportation-order-raped-two-vulnerable-women.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3702337/We-t-deport-Somali-rapist-preyed-children-Illegal-immigrant-kicked-three-years-ago-allowed-stay-officials-said-war-torn-country-unsafe.html