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Title: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: BCEmporium on January 31, 2017, 02:31:21 PM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: gabmen on February 01, 2017, 10:47:40 AM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

Well that's something to look at. And i agree with you that trump is a thinking person. There may very well be other things he's doing that he's covering up with all the banning attention. Though i think it's still too early to speculate what that would be.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: beafheart on February 01, 2017, 12:41:50 PM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.
Only an idiot can in our time to break the existing system of world governance. It is easy to destroy, but where America will be after this destruction? I don't think he understands what he's doing.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: SyGambler on February 01, 2017, 01:11:19 PM
I'm not sure why Trump did that ban , but I'm sure that this wasn't for protecting Americans from terrorist attacks
if we think about it we find that Saudi Arabia has produced the most terrorists , and we didn't see Trump banning Saudis from entering
so it's not about banning Muslims or about really protecting USA , it's something else and the future only will let us know what Trump will do


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Xester on February 01, 2017, 01:15:27 PM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

Trumps banning muslims on America is part or one of the step in his main Agenda that America is for Americans and with this he must place the American people as the first priority. The banning of immigrants was to make sure that the jobless Americans will be given a job instead of giving it to the immigrants. Trump wants to strengthen America by increasing employment for American People without the dollars getting out of the country.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: yuiyuga on February 01, 2017, 03:24:19 PM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

Trumps banning muslims on America is part or one of the step in his main Agenda that America is for Americans and with this he must place the American people as the first priority. The banning of immigrants was to make sure that the jobless Americans will be given a job instead of giving it to the immigrants. Trump wants to strengthen America by increasing employment for American People without the dollars getting out of the country.
In order to say that you need to understand the causes of unemployment. I think that first you need to solve the problem of payment. People should not receive benefits. They should get paid.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: tracktorr on February 01, 2017, 04:18:24 PM
In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: cubradford on February 01, 2017, 04:26:50 PM
But, you think, in this case, Trump will do some steps? Which side will he choose? When he only was eliminating, I thought he was totally with Putin, but now I don't know.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: dirokkl on February 01, 2017, 05:38:37 PM
But, you think, in this case, Trump will do some steps? Which side will he choose? When he only was eliminating, I thought he was totally with Putin, but now I don't know.
It seems to me that Trump at all afraid to make someone either side. Or already took the side of Putin, and we don't know yet. Putin is now in Ukraine checks on how much he can trust his agent Trump.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: BADecker on February 02, 2017, 01:28:37 AM
President Trump exposes McCain and Graham for trying to start Word War III (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/211822-2017-02-01-president-trump-exposes-mccain-and-graham-for-trying-to-start.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0201081316-Trump-Mccain-and-Graham.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/211822-2017-02-01-president-trump-exposes-mccain-and-graham-for-trying-to-start.htm)


Neocon warmongers have long pushed policies that could start World War Three

(INTELLIHUB) — After the neocon duo of Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham publicly criticized his executive order on immigration from the Middle East, President Trump took to Twitter to destroy the noted warmongers.

Responding to a joint statement by the Senators, Trump noted that they were both failed presidential candidates before ridiculing them for their long history of being weak on immigration.

Amazingly, Trump then went on to out the duo as high level warmongers who have been pushing for World War III for the vast majority of their political careers. Take note that this criticism is exactly what the alternative media has been saying for years.

As Trump said, McCain and Graham have long, undisputed records of warmongering and are both the very definition of the Rhino Republicans that Americans voted against in droves during the last election.

It is also blatantly obvious why McCain would come out against Trump's executive order as he has been personally working against the Trump Administration since before the president-elect was even inaugurated.

In what led many to label him an actual traitor, McCain was the person who personally handed the disinformation dossier on Donald Trump to the FBI in what was a direct action against the incoming president designed to help leftist opposition.

"In the wake of the release of a disinformation dossier on President-elect Donald Trump, it has been revealed that none other than establishment Republican John McCain was responsible for passing the document to the highest reaches of the FBI," I reported at the time.


Read more and click the links at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/02/01/president-trump-exposes-mccain-and-graham-for-trying-to-start-word-war-iii-b/.


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Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: BADecker on February 02, 2017, 02:00:22 AM
Trump card: Trump filed for 2020 reelection with SEC, thereby gagging non-profits (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/211817-2017-02-01-trump-card-trump-filed-for-2020-reelection-with-sec-thereby.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0201074043-keep-america-great.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/211817-2017-02-01-trump-card-trump-filed-for-2020-reelection-with-sec-thereby.htm)


Whatever that will happen to his presidency, we can say at least this about Donald John Trump: He is a very interesting man who thinks several moves ahead of his opponents.

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0201074043-keep-america-great.jpg

On January 19, I did a post, "Trump already has his 2020 campaign slogan!," which received little commentary from FOTM's readers. Two days before his presidential inauguration, Donald Trump already had the slogan for his re-election campaign in 2020, "Keep America Great!," which he has trademarked.

It turns out he had done this before. In 2012, within a week of Mitt Romney's loss to Obama, Trump trademarked "Make America Great Again" for a $325 fee.

But Trump didn't just trademark his 2020 campaign slogan. He filed a notice (FEC Form 99) with the Federal Election Commission of his intention to run for reelection in 2020 — and he did this on January 20, 2017, the day of his inauguration.

This was discovered by a group of rabid anti-Trump feminists called The Resisterhood (h/t Jim Stone).

On January 28, The Resisterhood @resisterhood tweeted a screenshot of the FEC Form 99 that Trump filed with the FEC on January 20, 2017:

https://i2.wp.com/fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/trump-fec-form-99-for-2020-candidacy.png?resize=500%2C273&ssl=1 (https://i2.wp.com/fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/trump-fec-form-99-for-2020-candidacy.png?ssl=1)

However, as Trump stated in his letter to the FEC, he filed a Form 99, "Miscellaneous Report to FEC," because he had "reached the legal threshold for filing FEC Form 2". That might explain why, after conducting numerous searches on FEC.gov, I could not find a record of Trump's Form 99.

Resisterhood's tweet sent the anti-Trumpers into sputtering, foaming-at-the-mouth outrage.

Why is that?

Because, as Resisterhood pointed out, by registering himself as a 2020 political candidate, Trump is tying the hands of non-profit opposition groups by silencing their criticisms and blocking their political activities, such as protests and demonstrations.

According to IRS rule, non-profits (Section 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations) are prohibited from intervening in political campaigns, unless they want their tax-exempt status revoked.


Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/02/01/trump-card-trump-filed-for-2020-reelection-with-sec-thereby-gagging-non-profits/.


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Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 04:15:34 AM
In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: roupengbiz on February 02, 2017, 08:50:36 AM
nothing is going to go unnoticed with this administration. Atleast nothing that would need a cover in the form of a Muslim ban


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: dirokkl on February 02, 2017, 09:39:08 AM
In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.
So Putin wants. In fact, the U.S. will never recognize Russian Crimea. Even if Trump will try to make Congress declare impeachment proceedings. And Russian already dreaming about how you are going to agree.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: adidas on February 02, 2017, 10:32:50 AM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

What age is he now 70 or 72 I don't know but the fact is and is proven scientifically that the older the person becomes the less his brain thinks. He is an idiot to me and I underestimate him because at this age you cannot be the president of our great nation. He is lowering the dollar in order to spark exports while promised the opposite to get back to America abroad capital. Obama left the economy at top notch with only 4.7% unemployment while I think this dummy will make it go back to over 6.5% during this same year.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: varyspro on February 02, 2017, 11:28:27 AM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

What age is he now 70 or 72 I don't know but the fact is and is proven scientifically that the older the person becomes the less his brain thinks. He is an idiot to me and I underestimate him because at this age you cannot be the president of our great nation. He is lowering the dollar in order to spark exports while promised the opposite to get back to America abroad capital. Obama left the economy at top notch with only 4.7% unemployment while I think this dummy will make it go back to over 6.5% during this same year.
I agree with your opinion. Only from this does not become easier. The unemployment problem will worsen problems of foreign policy. If Trump to hold the presidency in 4 years, America will be back in the 30s of the 20th century.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Xester on February 02, 2017, 01:52:36 PM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

Trumps banning muslims on America is part or one of the step in his main Agenda that America is for Americans and with this he must place the American people as the first priority. The banning of immigrants was to make sure that the jobless Americans will be given a job instead of giving it to the immigrants. Trump wants to strengthen America by increasing employment for American People without the dollars getting out of the country.
In order to say that you need to understand the causes of unemployment. I think that first you need to solve the problem of payment. People should not receive benefits. They should get paid.

I know that after President Donald Trumps decision to impose travel ban to other countries there will be a million of workers from foreign countries that will be jobless. But after that event  new business will replace the old jobs and so the economy will continue to move on. Though many protesters will go to streets to go against his agenda but Trump is fixated on his plan and will not be affected by those movements.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: v1ryspro on February 02, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

Trumps banning muslims on America is part or one of the step in his main Agenda that America is for Americans and with this he must place the American people as the first priority. The banning of immigrants was to make sure that the jobless Americans will be given a job instead of giving it to the immigrants. Trump wants to strengthen America by increasing employment for American People without the dollars getting out of the country.
In order to say that you need to understand the causes of unemployment. I think that first you need to solve the problem of payment. People should not receive benefits. They should get paid.

I know that after President Donald Trumps decision to impose travel ban to other countries there will be a million of workers from foreign countries that will be jobless. But after that event  new business will replace the old jobs and so the economy will continue to move on. Though many protesters will go to streets to go against his agenda but Trump is fixated on his plan and will not be affected by those movements.
[/quVery foolish to think so. America has become one of the most developed countries of the world because we were able to establish on its territory the best conditions for life and work with the smartest people from all countries. Aren't you afraid that your place will be the China? Then, the US economy will simply collapse!ote]


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 02:29:44 PM
In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.
So Putin wants. In fact, the U.S. will never recognize Russian Crimea. Even if Trump will try to make Congress declare impeachment proceedings. And Russian already dreaming about how you are going to agree.

With the exception of Lindsey Graham and John McCain, all of the prominent Republicans are going to agree with this plan. If peace is delivered in Ukraine, then the level of image boost which Trump is going to receive, will be unparalleled.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: daiyuba1971 on February 02, 2017, 03:49:47 PM
In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.
So Putin wants. In fact, the U.S. will never recognize Russian Crimea. Even if Trump will try to make Congress declare impeachment proceedings. And Russian already dreaming about how you are going to agree.

With the exception of Lindsey Graham and John McCain, all of the prominent Republicans are going to agree with this plan. If peace is delivered in Ukraine, then the level of image boost which Trump is going to receive, will be unparalleled.
The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 04:53:24 PM
The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Mersedes on February 02, 2017, 07:04:57 PM
The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.
Who are you lying to? The whole world saw you hold a referendum at gunpoint. In addition, the referendum can not solve the problems of separation of the territory from the state.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: European Central Bank on February 02, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
donald likes things loud and obvious. the more insane they are, the more popular he seems to become. perhaps this is gonna be a very non under the table presidency. he don't give a shit about sugar coating things.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: ovvidiy on February 02, 2017, 08:56:17 PM
donald likes things loud and obvious. the more insane they are, the more popular he seems to become. perhaps this is gonna be a very non under the table presidency. he don't give a shit about sugar coating things.
Trump a showman. Let it show and remained. It was impossible to select it in presidents. He brought with him into politics the scandal. Americans would vote more for Paris Hilton. She would have brought more politics and sex.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: bra4our on February 02, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: ekaterina77 on February 02, 2017, 09:53:56 PM
Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.
Would you believe him if he said that after winning the election will give every American at the Villa on the ocean? You think that an old clown can do? He knows nothing about politics, and it will lead to the collapse.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: European Central Bank on February 02, 2017, 10:01:24 PM
Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.

no one from any of the blacklisted countries has harmed an american inside america other than normal crime as far as i can tell.

if you wanted to do terror you'd come to europe. way easier to get into and too pc to do much. as an upstanding non american white person you have to hand over your fingerprints and prove you're not scum to get in for a short holiday, let alone move there.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: ekaterina77 on February 02, 2017, 10:12:21 PM
Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.

no one from any of the blacklisted countries has harmed an american inside america other than normal crime as far as i can tell.

if you wanted to do terror you'd come to europe. way easier to get into and too pc to do much. as an upstanding non american white person you have to hand over your fingerprints and prove you're not scum to get in for a short holiday, let alone move there.
Man invented so many different ways to destroy other people closing borders will not help. You probably already forgot how was organized the September 11 attacks. Terrorism must be fought by other methods.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 03, 2017, 03:31:24 AM
The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.
Who are you lying to? The whole world saw you hold a referendum at gunpoint. In addition, the referendum can not solve the problems of separation of the territory from the state.

I have read the reports from western mainstream media. They say that the two majority groups (ethnic Russians and Ukrainians) are happy under the Russian rule. The only group which is opposed to the Russian rule is the Crimean Tatars. Not my opinion. Just quoted from Western media.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: Spendulus on February 03, 2017, 07:03:32 AM
donald likes things loud and obvious. the more insane they are, the more popular he seems to become. perhaps this is gonna be a very non under the table presidency. he don't give a shit about sugar coating things.

Whatever has been going on under the table should be seen in the 2018 elections for Senate and Congress.   My guess is that he will firmly sweep the table and the Republicans will keep their majorities in the two bodies.  But only if he produces like he's promised.


Title: Re: What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?
Post by: dirokkl on February 03, 2017, 09:55:07 AM
The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.
Who are you lying to? The whole world saw you hold a referendum at gunpoint. In addition, the referendum can not solve the problems of separation of the territory from the state.

I have read the reports from western mainstream media. They say that the two majority groups (ethnic Russians and Ukrainians) are happy under the Russian rule. The only group which is opposed to the Russian rule is the Crimean Tatars. Not my opinion. Just quoted from Western media.
You probably forgot to look at what the media has been bought by Russian. You still tell me that you need to watch Russia today to know the truth. Don't lie! There are many videos where you can see how not happy people in Crimea.