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Title: Lost Seed Electrum
Post by: c4inurpocket on February 01, 2017, 08:24:17 AM
Hello, I made a big boo-boo and put my electrum seed on my phone, and then consequently broke my phone...I have a very good idea of the words that are in the seed, but am clueless for the order of 6 in the middle. If I didn't explain that well, let me try to explain with a diagram. The unknown words are in the brackets

1,2,3,{[4,5,6,7,8,9]}10,11,12,(checksum)

They could be any order of about 10 possible words from the Electrum wordlist. That's around 61 million combos. Am I SOL? Or is there someone who is able to crack an electrum seed with these parameters? If so I'm begging for your assistance and will offer a reward. If not, that's 0.65 btc down the drain I guess...


Title: Re: Lost Seed Electrum
Post by: mocacinno on February 01, 2017, 08:26:48 AM
Hello, I made a big boo-boo and put my electrum seed on my phone, and then consequently broke my phone...I have a very good idea of the words that are in the seed, but am clueless for the order of 6 in the middle. If I didn't explain that well, let me try to explain with a diagram. The unknown words are in the brackets

1,2,3,{[4,5,6,7,8,9]}10,11,12,(checksum)

They could be any order of about 10 possible words from the Electrum wordlist. That's around 61 million combos. Am I SOL? Or is there someone who is able to crack an electrum seed with these parameters? If so I'm begging for your assistance and will offer a reward. If not, that's 0.65 btc down the drain I guess...

I think that should be possible... If nobody steps up, i'll see if i can write something in python for this task this weekend.
6! = 720... So brute forcing that shouldn't take so long, as long as you're sure about both the place and the word of the first 3 seed words and the last 3, and be sure about the words but not the place of the middle 6.

If you're unsure about both the place and the word of the 6 middle words, it becomes (much) harder...

BTW, do you know any of the addresses that were managed by this wallet, that would make the task even faster, since the python program wouldn't have to check for balance after deriving the first key/address while bruteforcing...?


Title: Re: Lost Seed Electrum
Post by: jackg on February 01, 2017, 05:58:51 PM
Hello, I made a big boo-boo and put my electrum seed on my phone, and then consequently broke my phone...I have a very good idea of the words that are in the seed, but am clueless for the order of 6 in the middle. If I didn't explain that well, let me try to explain with a diagram. The unknown words are in the brackets

1,2,3,{[4,5,6,7,8,9]}10,11,12,(checksum)

They could be any order of about 10 possible words from the Electrum wordlist. That's around 61 million combos. Am I SOL? Or is there someone who is able to crack an electrum seed with these parameters? If so I'm begging for your assistance and will offer a reward. If not, that's 0.65 btc down the drain I guess...

Search this forum, I know there's definitely someone that has done this for electrum.
The programs will recover the seed from the passwords, do you at least remember that?
The way the wallet file is stored is with the seed encrypted with the password and the private keys encrypted with the seed. Thus, getting the private keys should be simple enough.

There is a board for electrum that you could use here to get more information.

This might be useful: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553096.0