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Bitcoin => Electrum => Topic started by: Jedda on February 05, 2017, 01:07:09 AM



Title: No Seed No Google Authenticator
Post by: Jedda on February 05, 2017, 01:07:09 AM
Hello:

I set up my Electrum wallet long ago on an OS I rarely use and I no longer have the seed.

I do, however, have the wallet password.  I can transfer funds in and see all private keys.  I can also open the wallet file.

But, apparently I created the wallet with 2FA.  If I try to transfer funds out, it asks for a Google Authenticator code.  I have never set up or used Google Authenticator.  As a consequence, the transaction sits with 1/2 signatures and never completes.  I've edited the wallet file to set 2FA to 'false' but no luck.

Any help on either recreating the seed with the password, or finding another way to transfer funds out.


Title: Re: No Seed No Google Authenticator
Post by: kolloh on February 05, 2017, 01:46:28 AM
Hello:

I set up my Electrum wallet long ago on an OS I rarely use and I no longer have the seed.

I do, however, have the wallet password.  I can transfer funds in and see all private keys.  I can also open the wallet file.

But, apparently I created the wallet with 2FA.  If I try to transfer funds out, it asks for a Google Authenticator code.  I have never set up or used Google Authenticator.  As a consequence, the transaction sits with 1/2 signatures and never completes.  I've edited the wallet file to set 2FA to 'false' but no luck.

Any help on either recreating the seed with the password, or finding another way to transfer funds out.

2FA wallets utilize a 2 of 3 multi-signature wallet and without at least 2 signatures, you will be unable to send funds. When you create a wallet with 2FA, the seeds you get give you 2 out of the 3 private keys so you can restore the wallet without the need for the 2FA. Unfortunately, without the seed or the 2FA, I don't think you'll be able to gain access to these funds.


Title: Re: No Seed No Google Authenticator
Post by: Jedda on February 05, 2017, 02:08:18 AM
Hello:

I set up my Electrum wallet long ago on an OS I rarely use and I no longer have the seed.

I do, however, have the wallet password.  I can transfer funds in and see all private keys.  I can also open the wallet file.

But, apparently I created the wallet with 2FA.  If I try to transfer funds out, it asks for a Google Authenticator code.  I have never set up or used Google Authenticator.  As a consequence, the transaction sits with 1/2 signatures and never completes.  I've edited the wallet file to set 2FA to 'false' but no luck.

Any help on either recreating the seed with the password, or finding another way to transfer funds out.

2FA wallets utilize a 2 of 3 multi-signature wallet and without at least 2 signatures, you will be unable to send funds. When you create a wallet with 2FA, the seeds you get give you 2 out of the 3 private keys so you can restore the wallet without the need for the 2FA. Unfortunately, without the seed or the 2FA, I don't think you'll be able to gain access to these funds.

Thanks.  Lesson learned.  It's funny, I had a piece of paper with a seed and password right next to the computer with the Electrum wallet.  I then transferred some BTC only to learn later that the password and seed were to a different Electrum wallet on a different OS.  I got lucky with the password but, alas, not enough.  Live and learn.  I appreciate the help.


Title: Re: No Seed No Google Authenticator
Post by: NorrisK on February 05, 2017, 05:46:54 PM
Hello:

I set up my Electrum wallet long ago on an OS I rarely use and I no longer have the seed.

I do, however, have the wallet password.  I can transfer funds in and see all private keys.  I can also open the wallet file.

But, apparently I created the wallet with 2FA.  If I try to transfer funds out, it asks for a Google Authenticator code.  I have never set up or used Google Authenticator.  As a consequence, the transaction sits with 1/2 signatures and never completes.  I've edited the wallet file to set 2FA to 'false' but no luck.

Any help on either recreating the seed with the password, or finding another way to transfer funds out.

2FA wallets utilize a 2 of 3 multi-signature wallet and without at least 2 signatures, you will be unable to send funds. When you create a wallet with 2FA, the seeds you get give you 2 out of the 3 private keys so you can restore the wallet without the need for the 2FA. Unfortunately, without the seed or the 2FA, I don't think you'll be able to gain access to these funds.

Thanks.  Lesson learned.  It's funny, I had a piece of paper with a seed and password right next to the computer with the Electrum wallet.  I then transferred some BTC only to learn later that the password and seed were to a different Electrum wallet on a different OS.  I got lucky with the password but, alas, not enough.  Live and learn.  I appreciate the help.

You may want to improve the way you store the seed and password as well. Anybody that walks by your computer is able to access your coins simply with the seed.

Atleast remove it from plain sight and use a dedicated space for this. This way, you also don't lose it like what happened now.