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Title: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Tyrantt on February 07, 2017, 12:05:07 AM
Ok, here's the thing and the idea. If I were to go to the my university computer lab where computers are not restricted by anything, so I everyone has full freedom with them, and install a miner to start up with windows in the background, excluded in the antivirus and working on low % so it doesn't slow down the pc and use those 30+ pcs to mine some alt-coin (example). Would that pay off in some time and way and also, what's the punishment if I were to get caught besides the suspension?


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: BurtW on February 07, 2017, 12:23:27 AM
Would that pay off in some time and way and also, what's the punishment if I were to get caught besides the suspension?

So you know it it wrong.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Tyrantt on February 07, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
I know it is wrong, I'm just interested if it's worth doing in sense of can it payoff? Also, it would be running on really low % so it doesn't slow the pc in any way so they won't be noticing it at all.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: ProfessionalGoogler on February 07, 2017, 10:37:51 PM
I know it is wrong, I'm just interested if it's worth doing in sense of can it payoff? Also, it would be running on really low % so it doesn't slow the pc in any way so they won't be noticing it at all.

Even if they had very powerful GPUs it wouldn't be worth it.. You would generate maybe a penny a month.. LOL

You would want to mine another coin like ETH or ZEC (and again not worth unless they have some sort of decent GPU in each PC) -- BTC mining needs ASICS now.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Lionidas on February 07, 2017, 10:44:57 PM
This is kind of a weird thing to ask because everybody knows that every university has an i.t team to monitor what happens on each and every computer and those computers are connected to the university network.
That would comprise the whole campus's network integrity.
So do you really think it go by unnoticed?
Once they find it they will track down where those sends are going to and charge you with hacking or whatever they want to charge you with and will include prosecution including jail time because students and professors have their thesis on these computers that are used on the network. They plug their laptops on it and each of them will sue the university for not having any security in place to keep their files and data safe from such breaches in security.
If you are a student or alumni of that place you will get suspended and possibly fined which will lose all your tuition and even more.
Would you think it would be worth the risk to do this? Really do you think? ::)


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: jeffersonairplane on February 07, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
it's not worth the risk of getting kicked out of school that's for sure, it will take forever to mine any decent coin for money using those computers


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Kemarit on February 08, 2017, 12:13:52 PM
Ok, here's the thing and the idea. If I were to go to the my university computer lab where computers are not restricted by anything, so I everyone has full freedom with them, and install a miner to start up with windows in the background, excluded in the antivirus and working on low % so it doesn't slow down the pc and use those 30+ pcs to mine some alt-coin (example). Would that pay off in some time and way and also, what's the punishment if I were to get caught besides the suspension?

Small time mining is not worth it. You will be caught sooner or later.
Again, you can only mine a few penny and once you got caught,
the school will investigate you and most likely you will not only
be suspended but will be kick out of the school and possibly, jail time
if they found out more evidence against you that will warrant it.

Its the risk you willing to take?


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: BurtW on February 08, 2017, 02:17:10 PM
I know it is wrong.
It is theft.

So there must be something wrong with you, your morals, your conscience and your thought processes if you are even thinking about it.

Let me put it this way:

I know this guy that has over 1,000 BTC.  I am pretty sure I can take them from him however I might have to torture and kill him to get him to give me the BTC but I am pretty sure I can dispose of the body in such a way as to not get caught.  Pretty sure.  Is it worth it?


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: gentlemand on February 08, 2017, 07:32:15 PM
An alt, yes. Bitcoin, forget about it. You'd probably need 300,000 PCs to match one ASIC or something. And it's something increasingly prevalent and increasingly frowned upon. They'd nail you to the wall for it.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Tyrantt on February 09, 2017, 01:05:51 AM
Relax guys, I didn't say I was going to do it, I was just interested how would that go. Now I'm thinking of going the other way, speaking to a IT professor of maybe starting a project like this with the school allowing it, I know that bitcoins could not be mined efficiently but I was aiming for some alt-coin anyways.

As I said, I'm thinking of starting a project like that since the first suggestion wasn't worth it, yeah? :D


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Amph on February 09, 2017, 07:37:55 AM
I know it is wrong.
It is theft.

So there must be something wrong with you, your morals, your conscience and your thought processes if you are even thinking about it.

Let me put it this way:

I know this guy that has over 1,000 BTC.  I am pretty sure I can take them from him however I might have to torture and kill him to get him to give me the BTC but I am pretty sure I can dispose of the body in such a way as to not get caught.  Pretty sure.  Is it worth it?

the funny thing is, when the government do the same to you, i'm talking about your case Burst, it's not considered theft(or you were in agreement with their decision? i doubt it was morally correct anyway) but when you do it to other people it's considered a crime

this whole system is fucked up really


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Immakillya on February 09, 2017, 07:45:11 AM
Hmmm. Thats a good idea of you. But dont get caught. Lol😄
Its more like theft to me. Just like stealing some pennies from your mother's purse.
Its not a good idea to do. Its a shame that you will be jailed just for mining on a university computer lab. Besides, i dont think you could get good profit from that. You need proper mining rig to make it profitable.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: zeze18 on February 09, 2017, 09:42:49 AM
perhaps with the skills you have in the field of IT technologies, you can do anything related to technology, but it is better to use your knowledge to good use and I think it would be more useful
In any way, large or small of a theft of include criminal acts, should be willing to bear the consequences


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Yogafan00000 on February 15, 2017, 04:31:03 PM
Amateur mining (of any cryptocoin) is dead.  At best, you would make a few dollars per month.

You would be wasting your time taking a big risk for nothing.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: eule on February 24, 2017, 10:13:21 PM
Mining Monero on one core for example gives you ~5 cents per day (24 hours). So 30 cores are 1.50$, you decide, if that's worth possible jail time.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Dudeperfect on February 25, 2017, 06:37:21 AM
Mining is no more a game of casual PC operations, Now it's a serious business and it's better to leave for them who treat it in such way. Yes according to your plan it would give you around 0.50 cents to $2 (for all PCs) but that's far less than the fees which you might have paid for the admission so it is not worth it in my opinion.
However, you can learn new skills using those PCs and earn through freelancing much more than this plan and there won't be any punishment for you if you are using it to learn something using it.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: ingaid on May 09, 2018, 07:38:06 AM
and if I have 5000pc to run a silent miner on, will it be worth it and which coin should i mine?


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: marielbeckham on May 09, 2018, 09:26:32 AM
This is definitely not the sort of thing which is worth that.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: BTCW on May 13, 2018, 10:10:31 AM
If we skip the legal parts, if this scheme was remotely profitable, people wouldn't rent out botnets, but use them themselves to get crazy-rich.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: Luminous-Nova on May 16, 2018, 09:43:20 PM
Would that pay off in some time and way and also, what's the punishment if I were to get caught besides the suspension?

So you know it it wrong.

excuse me,can u explain it to me why its wrong ?! ( im new )


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: jseverson on May 17, 2018, 08:53:25 AM
Would that pay off in some time and way and also, what's the punishment if I were to get caught besides the suspension?

So you know it it wrong.

excuse me,can u explain it to me why its wrong ?! ( im new )

Because you're stealing resources. University computers are meant to cater to student activities and learning, and running miners on them impedes that and significantly contributes to wear and tear. Mining also costs electricity, so it could be said that you're basically converting your university's electricity to cash.

Basically, if you don't want someone else installing silent miners on your computer, you should assume others won't like it if you installed silent miners in theirs either.


Title: Re: Silent miner on 30+ PCs
Post by: veleten on May 17, 2018, 01:47:46 PM
not only wrong but also pretty useless,stealing in this case doesn't pay off
besides I expect people at a university of any kind be computer literate and you won't be able to get away with it for long
so forget about the idea and find some other way to earn money,some say getting a job is pretty effective