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Title: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: ccnation on April 16, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
I was looking at getting a Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD  hd 7950 to play with mining. I read a recent review where they stated that it is now voltage locked via hardware- you cant get past the voltage lock by flashing to the F43 bios (from FZ1. True, or did this guy not know what he was talking about?


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: ccnation on April 16, 2013, 04:34:40 PM
Forgot to mention, he stated that it was locked at 1.25 volts.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: jmfg187 on April 16, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
The Gigabytes are indeed voltage locked now.

These are the 7950s I have found that still seem to have the voltage unlocked.

PowerColor AX7950 3GBD5-2DHV4:
Code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-131-478

SAPPHIRE 100352-3L:
Code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026

MSI R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/OC:
Code:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-127-667


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: ccnation on April 16, 2013, 04:41:18 PM
Is it really all that bad to be locked though? - Some people have said they get 650-700 K/Hs all day long from their Gigabyte 7950. ....or was that the previous unlocked versions they were doing that with?


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: jmfg187 on April 16, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
They did used to be unlocked so not sure. I can tell you that voltage unlocked is nice, I mine LTC which is picky about memory speed but @ 885 core and 1375 memory I get the best hash rates and was able to lower my voltage from 1175 to 1145 which actually made like an 8C difference on temps.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: Cheshyr on April 16, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
Is 7950 the most cost effective, or just the most powerful chip that is still considered efficient?  There seems to be huge piles of conflicting data about performance compared to efficiency.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: jmfg187 on April 16, 2013, 05:29:06 PM
I don't know why I didn't tell you but the video card I am talking about is a 6950 and it does 432 Kh/s at the settings in my previous post. I can't really tell you if 7950s are the best because I don't own one. It does seem from all the reading I do that at least 80% of the new rigs being built seem to include the 7970. I personally would like to build a rig with the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 and 4 x Msi or Sapphire reference 7970s so I don't have to use any riser cables.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: Cheshyr on April 16, 2013, 05:35:05 PM
At this point all I can do is be jealous.  :-p  I'm running on GTX570's from my gaming rig.  Don't have a dedicated mining machine...  I get about 180Kh each, but it's such a joke compared to AMD cards.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: notaek on April 16, 2013, 05:37:18 PM
Is 7950 the most cost effective, or just the most powerful chip that is still considered efficient?  There seems to be huge piles of conflicting data about performance compared to efficiency.

7970 is faster than 7950, but after overclocking the 7950 can get pretty close if not faster.  This coupled with the fact that it is 100 dollars cheaper and uses 50w less power makes it the go to LTC mining card.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: jmfg187 on April 16, 2013, 05:40:38 PM
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At this point all I can do is be jealous.  :-p  I'm running on GTX570's from my gaming rig.  Don't have a dedicated mining machine...  I get about 180Kh each, but it's such a joke compared to AMD cards.

Yeah I can't believe the difference in hash rates between the green and red team. I think it is interesting that the 680 and the 7970 trade blows across lots of games but the difference in hashing is unbelievable. I luckily was never a fan of the green team anyway and have always used AMD. I think my first AMD card was a 9200 Pro lol.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: MouseTrap on April 16, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
Nice setup


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: Cheshyr on April 16, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
I tend to be brand agnostic, but the drastic hashing ability differences may start to bias my choices a bit.  Doesn't matter so much for SHA256, since ASICs will own that sooner or later...  but scrypt coins seem to be the smart way forward, and having better tools on hand couldn't hurt in that eventuality.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: VacantPaper on April 16, 2013, 06:01:45 PM
Is it really all that bad to be locked though? - Some people have said they get 650-700 K/Hs all day long from their Gigabyte 7950. ....or was that the previous unlocked versions they were doing that with?

 I have either the 7950 or the 7970, and I assure you they're both unlocked. Sounds to me like the people were mining with their CPU, not their GPU, because I get about 510 MH/s without flags.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: e521 on April 16, 2013, 06:04:28 PM
I have a locked gigabyte and I do 630kh/s at 1050/1450 +10% power at 70ish c


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: VacantPaper on April 16, 2013, 06:14:31 PM
I have a locked gigabyte and I do 630kh/s at 1050/1450 +10% power at 70ish c

Are you positive you meant KH/s and not MH/s? Mining at a speed as low as that is not worth anything, seriously. If you really are mining that low, you're using your CPU, not your GPU.

You should be getting *at least* 400-500 MH/s


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: jmfg187 on April 16, 2013, 06:58:54 PM
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Are you positive you meant KH/s and not MH/s? Mining at a speed as low as that is not worth anything, seriously. If you really are mining that low, you're using your CPU, not your GPU.

You should be getting *at least* 400-500 MH/s

He is mining LTC not BTC.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: VacantPaper on April 17, 2013, 01:40:47 AM
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Are you positive you meant KH/s and not MH/s? Mining at a speed as low as that is not worth anything, seriously. If you really are mining that low, you're using your CPU, not your GPU.

You should be getting *at least* 400-500 MH/s

He is mining LTC not BTC.

Oh dear, my mistake. Apologies.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: jinyan0072005 on April 17, 2013, 02:08:55 AM
just see!


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: dirtriderdan on April 17, 2013, 03:50:25 AM
Im running HIS at 1100mV, +20 power, 1050 Core, 1500 mem.  Pulling about 600 khash per card.  Not sure if some peoples numbers are inflated or not.  Seems to be about the best I can get.  Voltage is adj though.


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: ccnation on April 17, 2013, 03:57:34 AM
Yes, I forgot to say that I was referring to LTC mining. Thanks. I have a Gigabyte on order, and will see what I can do with it. If I can get it to do 650 khs or better- then I will order 18 more  :o


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: richgene on April 17, 2013, 04:58:47 AM
I have two Gigabyte 7970's and they'll do 700+ all day on 18 Intensity mining LTC. One of them runs WAY cooler, 71 C vs 81-83 C.

Haven't had a chance to toy around with them to try to get the temps down yet.

~richgene


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: ryancs9 on April 17, 2013, 06:04:41 AM
the gigabyte can still be flashed to a diffent bios with defualt 1.09 vddc so not so bad


Title: Re: Gigabyte 7950 card may not be the one to get now?
Post by: xdrzrex on April 17, 2013, 08:17:49 AM
Hi, I bought gigabyte 7950 recently, can not tweak voltage under linux ... going to try on win soon, but overclocking works fine - fan 100% (quite noisy), temp 59 C, voltage 1.25V, engine clock 1180 MHz, mem clock 1030MHz, Bitcoin mining around 615Mhash/sec with DiabloMiner