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let me explain what the subject is ...

dice as gambling game is the most popular game for bitcoin/altcoin ecosystem.
but it has some unique properties never found in other classic gambling games.
no matter what is the payout/chance you bet on or the amount ,most critical
decision you can make is to choose  --- Hi(gher) or Lo(wer) than .. blah blah

so i welcome all of you to share your thoughts about how you are making that choice ?
since it is a game usually we play for 1000s of rolls each session you may leave this
decision to autobet or gambling scripts/bots or (..reply how..)  ;D

Elias.C.

PS:i will share my thoughts here too but i am too shy to start first.  ::)

First thing is, that 2 choices are very annoying for me  :D when I clicked Lo a result goes to Hi and vice versa. It makes me felt regret cuz why I didn't choose Hi instead of Lo. So I just click to one choice (Lo or Hi) until I'm done and don't regret, it just makes you burden with these loses.

i don't even think about that much!
it is a game of complete randomness and luck and since i am not a superstitious guy i don't usually think about whether i bet hi or lo!
although i change it from time to time just to make things interesting and not always have the same bet :D
and i have to admit in the first days i used to test it to see if there is any difference if i make a hi bet or lo bet, but it really doesn't matter.

my friend has tell to me that when you register at new sites and first bets results always be lo and indeed i did several times try to bets lo for the first time on several dice sites and it works for me but i think this game is pure of luck and even so popular but i don't really like it because very difficult to get profit from playing dice

well its really annoying if you choose your preferred bets and the results turned to other side, this type of games really relied with your luck as we keeps on playing we are waiting for the luck to ride with us, you can only win if you know when to stop, really an easy game that doesn't needed any skills just luck and pure luck...

I never think when i choose lo rather than hi or vice versa, since each bet is independent. Usually, when i'm rolling in dice, i just choose hi (always hi) or lo (always lo) instead of hi lo hi lo or lo hi lo hi (zig zag).

You were just lucky indeed.

Dice is a game of luck and its best you keep your losses to the minimum or try different gambling strategies like the popular martingale if you have a good amount of bitcoins

'i just click'.. <-- the core of this hard question HI or LO ?
'i used to test it'.. i made 10 mil dice bets before this post (*lol @ me*)
fair enough but almost all games are asking same questions (red/black,yes/no,odd/even etc)
any ideas about our question here? it is annoying , agreed 101%  ;D
'each bet is independent'.. you say ,interesting , thank you and tell us more
dear Pamoldar ,you missed the topic so far,thank you and welcome in our fun thread

Thank you ALL so far for the feedback,  ;D

- Hi or lo is due to the computer's calculations. And I do not need to think to choose hi or lo, I choose based on emotion and luck, the strategy is useless when playing dice.

I'm choosing Hi if the previous game is lo, then I choose Lo if the previous game is Hi. And sometimes if I always lose, I just click what i want to click. When I'm playing Hi, Lo game I feel that I'm wasting my bitcoin in non sense game. Actually I hate this game because I never won in this game.

I play a lot in games like this when I was new in this forum though just using free bitcoins given by the same site, in short faucet. But I have realized that the more I choose higher, the number gets more lower. And when I choose lower, the number gets more higher and higher. Then I just increase the odds and use martingale and then autospin, though auto spin losses a lot than manual, well, based on my observation.

No such any thing or analyzation involved. I just choose whatever I feel if it's HI or LO. In most of the cases i choose HI and will do that pick continously until the end.

This is a manual betting as I don't feel automated betting. At least I want to see the progress slowly rather than an in an instant although chances of winning depends on the provably fair of a certain dice site. :)

Dice games in gambling is very interesting but it is completely based upon luck. Once we place the amount, there is nothing to do with it anymore. Its better to go with minimum amount and go for a intermediate pay out value. This will not affect much even if the roll gets lost.

I have said, I just click Hi or Lo and stick with it until the end of game. When I stick with Lo, and I do my bet with Lo choice.
You can't say you must choose Hi or Lo to different people because everyone will say "I don't care with Hi/Lo bla bla bla"

everyone says about the same thing , dice = really about luck nothing else.
then why you must make yourself busy and complicated looking for way to decide hi or lo?
always prefer to do random thing in this game , just click randomly whatever it is lo or hi and roll it!

Bots does the job quite well. I'm a fan of dice gambling but I don't usually enjoy playing it myself. For that, I rather use bots at gambling sites to wager my bets. It's very much simple to make a choice,  Either  Hi or Lo until you start losing too much.  




It's a gamble, Losing is allowed. I've tried your method a couple of times and they don't seem to work as well ;)

I follow the previous results thats the option I voted from the poll. I start with small bet amounts and make 10-20 rolls just to see what are the results before going in with my money if I roll more low numbers than high then i'll go for low right away.

Im really not considering any thoughts on what will I choose to HI and LO. Im doing it by random or whatever I think on an instant. Also doing this thru automated betting but only for small amount.

If the bets at stake is quite decent, I use manual as I think it's more thrilling than watching the bets automatically rolling out.

I know that's stupid buy I choose whether it will be hi or lo after analizing the previous results. If I had 3 greens in a row on lo, I will definitely bet hi next time although I know it's not necessary the right choice.

Picking high or low won't make odds different, so you are free to choose between them in whatever way you want, or just pick any of them with no criteria.

Try rolling a dice or reading a crystal ball to choose, if you really want a funny way to decide

When I Gamble On a Dice Game then I Try to Choose High and Low and According to Me Its Easy to Win Some Money in Gambling if u Bet Low Money and if u Bet High amount of Money then I Always Losses in that Game Round....
So I Suggest you to Just Play Dice Games with some stretagies that will help you to win in that particular Round.....

I always chose High first but when I lose 2 or 3 times consecutively, I change to Low. I always change to the other when ever I lose twice or thrice in a row and sometimes I do YOLO bets after losing 4 times consecutively. Either I bet max or all-in or I bet half of what I have in my wallet.

Awesome post,too much content in few lines !
my comments :
@ Picking high or low won't make odds different = You have right 100%
@ so you are free to choose between them in whatever way you want = of course you are free but
the question is what way YOU want or like to share with us :)
@ or just pick any of them with no criteria. = THIS IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR !!
the full question i try to form is how you pick with no criteria and why is better or worst than
any other possible method to assist you and us to at least less annoyance from the dilemma
@ Try rolling a dice or reading a crystal ball to choose = Good but not practical for long sessions Yeah  ;D
@ if you really want a funny way to decide = good plus 'funny' element in a game we always say we play
for fun and ... ... profit -- BEST POST SO FAR Mr Karpeles. Thank you.

dont worry it is not stupid , it is normal average human behavior against random events
stay with us ,you will enjoy this little casual discussion i can forsee that. thank you for posting

A million thank you , you made my day with your replies and feedback

i am a week away from Hero (potential activity) and i manage to make half post per day in average
i care for my threads a lot and i love to see in topic replies ,this thread here has a great start ,thank you all  ::)

I know that the last roll won't influence the next roll, but I choose how I play baccarat, I pick the previous bet and see how it pans out. If you got lucky, you will hit like 5-10 consecutive HI or LO then change the bet once to lose and start all over again.

No matter what you choose, the outcome would always be the same, which is dependent on your luck. I don't even think before selecting this, or i don't really touch that option at all, what i do is place the bet amount and set the multiplier and click on roll because i know that it depends on my luck if the result will be in my favor or the house's.

I don't know what strategy you use. The strategy I use is kind of profitable for me but I used ut only once till now.
So the strategy is invest minimum 0.1 btc in a high roll dice. I did 1 btc but it's your wish.
So I setup a robot to auto roll for 20 moves each roll worth 0.05. I didn't check it in the middle. When I checked my balance in the end it was 1.25 btc or something close I remember I was in profit. So I never invested again. I don't guarantee it will work for you I just shared my story.

I roll high, until there are lots of low numbers.
Than i try with low, but it turn that high was better option...
After switching back to high, dice start to randomly roll high - low, than i follow it and i start to roll low-high.
But surprise, surprise, it's not low-high any more it is either high or low. SO, back to step one(or two) and repeat  ;D

I just choose the auto-bet and will stop it if I'm losing. Then make in manual to decide whether I will have LO or HI or the next run. But if I'm winning n the auto-bet, I will continue it to run until I lost.

I created some patterns based on my dice game experience hence I will follow the previous results to make my decisions. That's how I play dice games nowadays. I do believe, if we wanted to be able to catch our luck, we have to stick with one method all the time.

I will not use any strategy, and i know this Dice game is nor profitable if we use any strategy Finally we will end with the loss. So I just play this game just for time pass. if I get bored to play manually, i will do auto roll. If I feel I am losing too many streaks will stop and play manually. I will not play this game much time, so I will not tension for this game. When I am ready to lose some coins that time I will play this game.

Good for you that you are taking it as a time pass  ;) manual rolling is boring but if you are really looking to win some then that is the way to go and you wont win a dime with auto rolls.I would roll some zero rolls to see how my seed is performing before wagging anything and then i will choose hi or lo accordingly.

Promised to post my method of choice so here it is :

Abstracting hi/lo decision , How to do it and Why

I will present it with one simple example :

If manual play i use an external random source , dice , crystal ball , random.org random lists etc
For auto-bet within most gambling sites i go with small sessions and external source again
With scripts or gambling bot programs i set hi/low flag = randint(0,1) or similar (Pseudorandom)

I choose carefully my bet sizes with main goal session length than profit. (IT IS FOR FUN RIGHT?)
I love to play difficult to come Payouts with chances lower than 1% (warning : dont do it at home)

Devils advocate says :Your life ,your money ,Why you complicate things so much ?

ACTUALLY what i am doing is to remove the annoyance,regrets and add more fun.
Some days the game will give you high-er other days will give you low-er.
of course we do not know what is coming and we stress our minds to make an unnecessary
decision , let it ride is best because no matter what it is to come ,we are covered.

In real life , you choose by logic and some days are good ,other days are bad but you always
can think 'damn i count wrong, i click other than i was thinking for , etc

There is more i can write but i will wait your replies at first , have a nice day and good (pure) luck.
Elias.C
 

For me, so far I have established that the site is provably fair or unfair and its yet to be busted so I assume its fair which means no matter what I do, I will win if chance is on my side and lose accordingly if otherwise is the case. So I just go for the one my reflects go for. Some times I will have high in mind then ended choosing low but it does not matter I will win if I will win and lost as well if that will be the case. No hard feelings.

It is all based on your luck, but for me I always bet hi because there is a higher chance to get them, it is not a successful one hundred percent but for the most part the times I did it was by 40%

But, if you are interested in knowing more about it you can find many guides and tricks on YouTube that some of them work.

Personally I have been sick with zig-zag decision in some bet I just lost, I prefer to bet in hi first for 2-5 rows then bet in low for 2-5 rows too, I do it repeatedly, the result is netter than zig-zag.


I think that's just waste time use such random sites, because basically you just bet in random decision which don't need an analyze first.

It's good you think gambling is just for fun, don't take it serious or you will be addicted, it will be bad for your behavior.

I have the opposite feeling. When I see a dice game where I can choose only probability and no 'higher' and 'lower' I don't want to play, because of my strange and not working well strategy. Firstly I just agree with what is chosen by the site as a start in terms of high and low. Then if I lose, I bet at the same again. If I win I may risk to bet there again but I prefer to choose the opposite option with the same probability then.

Honestly I really don't think whenever I roll on dice.  Why would I think of something that rely on pure luck. I just pick whatever I click and roll the dice.  Martingale will do the issue for me.  Yes I am using that system just to get back the money I lost from rolling in one win.  Pretty convenient but have high risk of depleting my bankroll fast LOL.

I just press randomly.  If I win, I win, If I lost I lost, there is nothing I can do about it.  Dice is a game of chance.  A pure luck gambling games so there is nothing this Hi Lo, or whatever ceremony that other do can affect this luck.  Better yet think of a thing on how we can exit Dice with profit.  

choose high or low in dice games is without strategy
use strategy only setting in profit or chance win, and then use averaging or matiangle
iam playing dice game use autobet

I am sure this is sort of true for 90% of the people here. Most of us just depend on the previous few rolls that happened before the next rule. Say I lost 4-5 rolls on low, then I continue betting on low hoping that maths will prove itself right and we will actually see a low.

to choose hi or lo at dice games is confusion thing, although is only hi or lo it can bring us on win or lose so when i choose it i use my feeling although its not always make me win, but in the first bet i use hi and often i win with hi roll although sometimes i get losses, after make hi roll at 3 times then i choose low :) but don't try it if you not sure with it :D

I can see why most people will depend on the previous few rolls, however, it is still 5050 in the new next game.

So I will just choosing by my feel...haha

i am doing multiple things.

sometimes i just click randomely and set the autobet on one of these without giving it any thought and it makes bets for me on that.

sometimes if the autobet allows me meaning if the site has the option to tell it to change automatically is set it to change between hi and lo each time i win.

hahaha. we have same strategy. i always bet high after 3 times of red streak, And i'm always depending on my feeling on what is the best pick for the bet, But i often used alternate method so that i can hit the right roll no matter what happened, but sometimes it busted me if the result is opposite to my alternate pattern. Hahahaha, i remember that i received 10 straight loss with alternate pattern and that is very horrible, i feel very unlucky that day.

I usually do autobets when it comes to this kinds of gambling,
So I don't really win in HI and LOW game I mean I would win in a few minutes but after that I would lose all of my money.

I prefer to follow the previous results, and it does not vary much with zig zag. all the ways I've done like using bots, always hi or lo.
but a good result is the single bets with a chance 70+ with follow the previous results.

I just choose randomly or sometimes just hi continously. Do not ever think too much regarding this because you need to depends on luck only. Even if you only choose hi when your luck on your side, you will win and vice versa.  :)

i chose something else option because i don't know what you mean by "zig-zag" and the option below it saying "follow the previous results".

what i do is that i follow martingale strategy but if i win i will switch between hi and lo, and if i lose i keep the same hi or lo going until i win and then switch and since the autobets don't offer this feature, i have to do it manually or find one that does or use a bot. and since i don't have the two other options i usually go back to a fixed hi or low bet.

i have to say this doesn't affect the winning or losing much, but it is a fun strategy to try.

I generally dont gamble on dice but if I have to, I look at the last 20 results and then bet accordingly. If there are a lot of highs then I'd be inclined towards low for the next few bets and vice versa.

I bet randomly in dice games because I know it's a dice game depends on luck and sometimes i only made a bet in one way likes i choose to bet on hi till i want to stop.

it doesn't matter as long as there is equal chance of winning on both sides. for example i saw one of these dice sites have a different change. it was 0.01% difference but it is still something. i don't know if it was a bug or something else but i chose the one that had a little bit more chance of winning for me and stuck with it. :D

Does it even matter what buttons you click? It is all mathematics behind your win/lose ratio and concept of probability will catch on you every time.
If you think that switching your 'strategy', hitting Hi-Low alternately or stick to one button will help you win any more than betting flat, using martingale etc.
Then you are trying to conjure your reality with your biased and pure gambler's fallacy.

I love zigzag techniques when im playing this kind of game i dont rely too much on those  so-called strategies to make money on hi-lo game and also i dont play too much on this and its better to play on dice rather into this but its still a good game but not playing it on longer hours compare to others.

I do zigzag for my dice game and I actually do more random. So sometimes what I do is High High Low Low, or even two High then three Low, it really depends on my move. But I never ever bet on just high or low. Though I am not successful with it so maybe I should change my strategy. I'll read on here if there are some successful methods, though I still believe there is no winning strategy.

Indeed, in fact, by playing this thing regret is always happened for the gambler and we cannot change that it is already a tail of it. And dice games can be found most in different exchange platform. Maybe because its profitable for the exchanger, this is the simplest games I saw in the gambling site whether you are newbie.

I just play whatever comes to my mind when I see first the >> Hi then I click it and when I win I press it again. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose so what I do is changing HI><LO<><HI from time to time but there is no way to beat the game, it's a total pure luck game and I know that when I play it I'm more vulnerable in losing.

The thing about these gamble is it is really random, it is really hard to tell what might be appearing next, is it lo or high? Did I win? Or did I lose? Though I do not use auto roll because based on my observation, there are more losing streaks there than in manual rolls, so I do manual rolls which really take sometime.

I also observed that autoroll usually just end up losing everything in the end even if you set it at a slow speed or high speed. It will just result into the same conclusion in the end. Manual rolling is much better and also stay away from a martine gale system or anything close to it. It will rob you of all your money, it just looks good on paper but not really in actual gambling.

I normally don't think about Hi or Lo i use it on the default setting weather it be hi or lo or even the alt if they have that setting. I just never change it. I don't think it helps with anything but i do think its important you stick with one instead of randomly changing it.

Dice games was very amusing to play with, it maybe a gambling but in some other ways it gives happiness to anyone. If you are going to play this seriously you really need to use analysis, but if you do this for fun or entertainment you don't need to apply it. Just enjoy,

Well first time i played dice games, i don't do autobets and i eagerly wait for the next roll. As it goes on, it gets a bit tiring so i just randomly click roll without thinking anymore and honestly, i win more rolls that way than when i think about what to do. I don't know i just think luck plays games on you when you think too much about it.

Yup I also don't know this autobet method when I started to play dice game. I enjoyed manual betting, and this is good we can choose our numbers, and it is more profitable than autobet. And when I know about autobet I played few times but met many loses in this method. So now I will not play this method only manual I feel this method is lucky for me.

Well according to the random number I believe that there might twice or third or fourth the results as high or low but there always been random session in dice roller
Well better you believe on what your decision
Cause it decide any result from what you choose
Or example after twice hi better you lo in the next round

I dont play much in dice game , i just play some 4 or 5 rounds and what ever the result is i quit it, but mostly i just follow the results and according it i play and 80% of time i getup in profit from the game but i never played full time as i know that it will result in loss at the end if i play long time.

i am very happy i see a lot of good replies in my thread here.

few days before this post i start collecting a sample of dice results in order to
test my change in mind about how i choose hi/lo in the dice game.

so i run a simple script ,i cant set hi/lo but it is calculated random  ::)  >:(
so far i feel more freedom and when luck strikes of course it is more fun.

Disclaimer #113 : Play gamble games for Fun and keep
your job for income , have a nice day all and thank you
for giving me something to read every day

I like to stick to one side and double up on loss.  It requires a deeper pocket but you can make some awesome money.

actually i give my vote i click always the nearest button or autobet default because i see in the dice gambling games, i don't thinking too much to choose hi or lo and i only make random click in that games. but yes, sometimes, if i want to choose hi or lo, i only selecting whatever i want and then i click the roll button to see what will be out.

I usually pick HI and set a profit amount to stop the autobet, then will change to LO and do the same.
Also stop autobet if stake is going to high to go manually and not blame it on the automated betting when losing everything

Yeah I usually do that aswell, what's the max bets in a row you ever lost doing that?

It is just a martingle method which is common in dice. Even if you have a deep pocket but once super red streak hits you. You will end up losing at the end. Trust me. I experimented on that method many time and in different initial amount. And nothing works at the end.

As known martingale strategy it is very dangerous method and should be avoided as gambler. Doubling your last amount is risky cause  your bankroll cant  be able  to handle latest big bet.Dont get trapped in "gamler's fallacy" and stick to your money management rules.If you cant control your emotions you will look for a ways  to recover your losing streak. With strong discipline,proper money management rules you can beat(at least you will have positive bankroll at the end) gambling in long run. Play it for fun not for money ;)

in my point of view this strategy very similar just like martingale but more risky than martingale strategy because you will deep lost if you're get busted but indeed sometimes if you were lucky you will get 4 untill 5 times streak for the green results from this way but i have to says it was rare to happened

i think its really hard to just stick in one side only especially if we have learn some other strategies to used because we can not win for only playing with one side. we should check the opportunity that we have to win the games so we can change into hi or lo and we can have our chance to win the games. if you are only playing games just for fun then i think you can stick with one side without thinking about win or loss that you can get but if you are playing gambling for case money, then i suggest to you to used various strategies to increase your chance to win the games.

I've been playing dice for many years, if i am doing manual betting i choose hi low after i preroll, my preroll is depends on my chance %, lets say for example my chance is set to 50% then i will preroll 8x first with 1 sat then after 8 losses in a row i will bet 1k sats everytime i lose i just double that 1k sats.

I am a fan of dice and I am a bigger fan of bots. I love playing dice on automated betting. Though in the back of my head I know it will never work. I still do play it this way. It's a hard habit to break and that's my guilty pleasure, I guess. Though some times I like to play with just randomly clicking hi or lo.

I use my luck with the autobets i don't care if i lose or i win the profit i just get them from the faucet but when im in a serious mode i choose to play with my guts where i will follow my own analysis in game and whether it took hours before i will totally hit a good profit i will stop then withdraw or will stack on the gambling. Till i use it again on my second gambling day.

I know this is an old topic but I've been doing some rigorous testing on my Hi Lo method & been pocketing gains consistently - warning - it always goes bad if you move outside the plan.

I wrote the plan down at btc4free.co.uk/hilo (http://btc4free.co.uk/hilo)

Please let me know how you get on! Cheers All.

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I am locking it , thank you all !