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Title: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Space calculator on February 12, 2017, 08:48:03 AM
Space calculator is the world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of the BTC.
It can also be used for the price calculation of any other investment goods such as shares,futures,gold,etc.
Also,it is free,and so simple.
You just choose the highest point of X and the lowest point of Y, input the values of X and Y in space calculator, click the "Calculate" button, and you will get the answer.
http://imgur.com/a/RdiiT
More,see
http://www.kjjsq.com/en.html


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: requester on February 12, 2017, 09:07:09 AM
Artificial intelligence cant go behind human power and if so happend then world will no longer be mastered by human AI will run the world.
So a mad made calculator count predict the ridgt . it changes every now and then.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Pettuh4 on February 12, 2017, 09:53:25 AM
The topic of this thread really drew my attention and I wanted to find out. Is this working for real ?? I've imputed some numbers and I can't say if it will get it right until I allow some time to elapse so I will do just that and will update my comments after I know how it turns out in the real world.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: erikalui on February 12, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
What factors are these results based on? Just a prediction without any valid reason or fact? Forex signals take into account technical analysis, market open and closed orders, economy of a country and so on while your website doesn't mention anything.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: BingoDog on February 12, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
It doesn't look reliable. I don't think that any kind of calculator could predict the price changes. On what algorythms or methods is it working? There are so many different factors on the market that influence bitcoin price so this could be used just for fun but not for real analysis.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: error08 on February 12, 2017, 11:06:29 AM
What factors are these results based on? Just a prediction without any valid reason or fact? Forex signals take into account technical analysis, market open and closed orders, economy of a country and so on while your website doesn't mention anything.

Yeah, we need to know about the math, Mm, I mean the factors to get the results. How could it (the calculator) predict/calculate the possible price of bitcoin if the market trading at extremely fall down just in case an exchange get hack again? Usually, people take 7% up/down or even 25% above the current price in a transaction using bitcoin, for example: buy a house.
I do not really understand about what are the advantages of this calculator as you just mentioned : used to calculate the possible price changes of the BTC. Calculate possible price changes for precaution in transaction?


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Victorycoin on February 12, 2017, 11:43:40 AM
What factors are these results based on? Just a prediction without any valid reason or fact? Forex signals take into account technical analysis, market open and closed orders, economy of a country and so on while your website doesn't mention anything.

There is nothing new to it as it is taking the recent highest and lowest points to suggest possible range price could go up or down and that is simply a copy of what Fibonacci retracement does best. It is rather very limited, owner of site obviously didn't do his home work well enough and I suggest getting a Fibonacci calculator instead, because that would give a broader and clearer picture of appropriate levels to lay ambush for market price for those who understands the language.

Can go here for a better trading tool:   http://www.babypips.com/tools/forex-calculators


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: n691309 on February 12, 2017, 12:27:46 PM
Space calculator is the world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of the BTC.
It can also be used for the price calculation of any other investment goods such as shares,futures,gold,etc.
Also,it is free,and so simple.
You just choose the highest point of X and the lowest point of Y, input the values of X and Y in space calculator, click the "Calculate" button, and you will get the answer.
http://www.kjjsq.com/en.html

What is the formula behind this? I don't get it, does it predict the price what could be more realistic than we think. If there was a trading calculator or a mining calculator then it may be better something that can be useful for users.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on February 12, 2017, 01:42:13 PM
Actually there is nothing in detail in http://www.kjjsq.com/helpen.html (Help page)
Nothing is discussed about in what basis result were calculated and it looks like an attempt to sell their professional version http://www.kjjsq.com/product.html

0.05BTC/month for what  :o


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: shield132 on February 12, 2017, 01:56:34 PM
The title itself really attrackts people but to my mind and hope many people thinks that this calculator means nothing, simply you are saying that here excist one calculator, which can to calculate the possible price of bitcoin changes which imagine how much means for investors/traders, it means 100% profit for traders and close of exchangers, it's simply sounds funny.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: shamzblueworld on February 12, 2017, 01:59:32 PM
Space calculator is the world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of the BTC.
It can also be used for the price calculation of any other investment goods such as shares,futures,gold,etc.
Also,it is free,and so simple.
You just choose the highest point of X and the lowest point of Y, input the values of X and Y in space calculator, click the "Calculate" button, and you will get the answer.
http://imgur.com/a/RdiiT
More,see
http://www.kjjsq.com/en.html
I don't think the algorithm that gives out the result considers the basic points that actually matter to bitcoin price change, bitcoin price does not go by any pattern, its not like you can predict tomorrow by knowing yesterday's price only. There are many other/unknown factors that matter.
Which no one actually know for sure. So I'd not be interested in this prediction.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Space calculator on February 12, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Hi,guys,don't worry.Just few times,U can find it is useful.U can use it free if U like.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Qunenin on February 12, 2017, 02:04:05 PM
What factors are these results based on? Just a prediction without any valid reason or fact? Forex signals take into account technical analysis, market open and closed orders, economy of a country and so on while your website doesn't mention anything.


Yes, what factors does it takes in x and y and how it calculate or predicts the btc price. Does it take the total volume of btc , the last days, week purchases and selling of bitcoin and then compute it through the calculator. I dont think its so easy to make a bitcoin prediction calculator easily as there are so many factors which contribute to its price.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Immakillya on February 12, 2017, 02:27:41 PM
I dont know if its gonna work because every minute and every second, bitcoin's price is mobing. So everytime the bitcoin's price changed, you will change also the highest and lowest points etc.? Thats inconvenient. Besides, the bitcoin's price is different on any locations around the world. You think it can calculate the possible price change?


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: margarete11 on February 12, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
I believe that it is just a pure science fiction because if anybody has the power to calculate the possible Bitcoin price then why you should share it ! If you can just keep it yourself then you can earn a lot of bitcoins in the future years to come ! I will certainly will not trust this calculator


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: franky1 on February 12, 2017, 02:54:53 PM
=((x-y)*0.618)+y

there you go

there is no rational reason for the calculator. the numbers are meaningless and the equation is meaningless
im pretty sure the OP will change the equation soon and make it another silly equation without merit


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: MoneyIsDebt on February 12, 2017, 04:07:17 PM
I believe that it is just a pure science fiction because if anybody has the power to calculate the possible  price then why you should share it ! If you can just keep it yourself then you can earn a lot of s in the future years to come ! I will certainly will not trust this calculator
yeah i don't think that can be possible the price of the bitcoin is changes day by day then how a calculator should know about it.........


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: veleten on February 12, 2017, 04:22:11 PM
looks like another black box calculator,except there is a 0.05 btc subscription if you purchase  a PRO version
you will have more chances to get paid subscribers if you described the algorythms you are using 


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: lionheart78 on February 12, 2017, 04:45:18 PM
I believe that it is just a pure science fiction because if anybody has the power to calculate the possible Bitcoin price then why you should share it ! If you can just keep it yourself then you can earn a lot of bitcoins in the future years to come ! I will certainly will not trust this calculator

Indeed, this is pure non-sense, human speculation is way better than this.  At least if we speculate even if it is pure speculation we have basis from past trend of trades and the current news around it.  So I am wondering why do I need this calculator?  No offense but I really can't find it useful to me.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: cramcram21 on February 12, 2017, 04:53:53 PM
I don't know if I should believe in this calculator,
I mean nobody can predict what will happen in the future,


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Kprawn on February 12, 2017, 04:55:53 PM
This might work for other "normal" shares and commodity prices, but Bitcoin is not that predictable. I guess the only way to know is to test it, so

let's see what it comes up with in the next couple of days.  ::) .... The one thing that are quite predictable is, when we have some fud being

spread around and then the market react to that... I always look out for that and then trade accordingly.  ;)


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: franky1 on February 12, 2017, 05:01:49 PM
the calculator is meaningless. its not based on any statistics or anything. its just
=((x-y)*0.618)+y

the 0.618 is just the 'golden ratio' or fibbonacci curve. but that has no relation to how economics works


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: BillyBobZorton on February 12, 2017, 05:04:25 PM
Bitcoin will only go up in the long term, since there are no real competitors and the possibilities of a so called "bitcoin killer" happening are next to 0.

So unless unwanted events like hard forks which would destroy the price happen, the overall price will go up. Of course, the dips, ups and downs, are not predictable unless you have insider information (like the chinese government).


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Gloiri on February 12, 2017, 05:09:07 PM
is this use for convert currency ? if yes i just goolge it and i found some more calculators to convert bitcoins to any currency http://www.coindesk.com/calculator/


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: BartS on February 12, 2017, 05:19:56 PM
Space calculator is the world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of the BTC.
It can also be used for the price calculation of any other investment goods such as shares,futures,gold,etc.
Also,it is free,and so simple.
You just choose the highest point of X and the lowest point of Y, input the values of X and Y in space calculator, click the "Calculate" button, and you will get the answer.
http://imgur.com/a/RdiiT
More,see
http://www.kjjsq.com/en.html
This is simply impossible, besides if you had anyway to predict all of that, as if all of that followed the same rules, then you will not be here, you will be doing a fortune with it and avoiding revealing the secret to anyone else.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: U2 on February 12, 2017, 05:28:51 PM
What factors are these results based on? Just a prediction without any valid reason or fact? Forex signals take into account technical analysis, market open and closed orders, economy of a country and so on while your website doesn't mention anything.


Exactly. That's what I was wondering. I highly doubt there's any accuracy and the margin of error is probably over 20% lol. Any random bitcoin trader could guess better than some random algorithm you've come up with and share for free.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Victorycoin on February 12, 2017, 11:45:52 PM
This might work for other "normal" shares and commodity prices, but Bitcoin is not that predictable.
Nope, every financial market can be predicted, the degree and frequency of accuracy is what one cannot readily say! Take a look:
 
https://i.imgur.com/ptf3syd.png?1

Can you see those blue ovals hanging on to those Fibonacci levels, time and time again? Now price are quite predictable within and around those levels.

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I guess the only way to know is to test it, so

let's see what it comes up with in the next couple of days.  ::) .... The one thing that are quite predictable is, when we have some fud being

spread around and then the market react to that... I always look out for that and then trade accordingly.  ;)

We know numbers don't lie, so let's go for a maths class! From the image, let  X=0.01172000 and y= 0.01041000, so the minimum space from "Space calccultor" would be 0.011.  What does that mean?  Let's go to http://www.babypips.com/tools/forex-calculators/ and input same values for X and Y
 
https://i.imgur.com/Xk0mwy3.png

From the image in Fibo2, we can deduce that minimum space is actually pointing to the 50.0% retracement level, which is a clue that a rise from 0.01041000 to 0.01100000 is to be expected. However the Fibo calculator does a far better job of showing the road map. Hope that helps?


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: densuj on February 14, 2017, 02:07:22 AM
It is good calculator for the possible price changed of bitcoin
it is more simple than make analysis use method technical,
we just submit the variable x and y and we can see the results.
It is different with analysis technical that should understand about the candle chart
while make prediction of price.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: bamboylee on February 14, 2017, 04:20:56 AM
Space calculator is the world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of the BTC.
It can also be used for the price calculation of any other investment goods such as shares,futures,gold,etc.
Also,it is free,and so simple.
You just choose the highest point of X and the lowest point of Y, input the values of X and Y in space calculator, click the "Calculate" button, and you will get the answer.
http://imgur.com/a/RdiiT
More,see
http://www.kjjsq.com/en.html

This calc just need two input and already can compute price of bitcoin. I read graphs, make technical analysis, read news, follow twitter and still can't get a good trade. How this calc do it is beyond me.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Hydrogen on February 14, 2017, 05:46:33 AM
One basic method to predict BTC price movements could be to calculate the number and value of buy orders on an exchange in proportion to the number and value of sell orders.

When there is a higher quantity of buy orders than sell orders, one might expect the price of btc to rise based on simply supply & demand.

The opposite might also be true, when the quantity of sell orders is greater than the quantity of buy orders, the price of btc will probably decrease.

But, like most things in economics, these are general rules of thumb & valuation is often based on outside variables such as news stories and events which cannot be predicted well in advance.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: darklus123 on February 14, 2017, 06:17:39 AM
Pretty far from bring accurate. Do it can give you 10-20% of accurate data it is still to low. Ai can't manage to predict the market for the next 2 weeks or months or years.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Amph on February 14, 2017, 06:53:48 AM
Artificial intelligence cant go behind human power and if so happend then world will no longer be mastered by human AI will run the world.
So a mad made calculator count predict the ridgt . it changes every now and then.

it is possible actually it's called singularity

the calculator is meaningless. its not based on any statistics or anything. its just
=((x-y)*0.618)+y

the 0.618 is just the 'golden ratio' or fibbonacci curve. but that has no relation to how economics works

it's based on TA which is a broken thing and they can't still understand it apparently, the price some times may look predictale but if it isn't always predictable i call it luck

the only good way to predict a change in value is by looking at how many time the price went on the same spot, the more times it reach the same value the more solid will be


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: mrkevio on February 14, 2017, 08:07:53 AM
Pretty far from bring accurate. Do it can give you 10-20% of accurate data it is still to low. Ai can't manage to predict the market for the next 2 weeks or months or years.

Nothing and nobody can predict the price correctly. There are many events changing things, like a hack, a war or just anything else. These things can change the price substantially, as they did in the past.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: epitome on February 14, 2017, 08:20:20 AM
Pretty far from bring accurate. Do it can give you 10-20% of accurate data it is still to low. Ai can't manage to predict the market for the next 2 weeks or months or years.

Nothing and nobody can predict the price correctly. There are many events changing things, like a hack, a war or just anything else. These things can change the price substantially, as they did in the past.
Let alone the price of bitcoin you really cannot predict stock market nor any price correctly.You can have some assumptions on how the price range would be and there are world wide events that influence the price of a market.With bitcoin the news coming out of China have a greater impact on the price.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: virasog on February 14, 2017, 08:23:56 AM
Pretty far from bring accurate. Do it can give you 10-20% of accurate data it is still to low. Ai can't manage to predict the market for the next 2 weeks or months or years.

I think such a calculator cannot be made which accurately tell the price. Predicting the future bitcoin price with 20% percent accuracy is also not any use of and 80% chances it will not be correct. Better to predict the prices yourself by seeing the buying and selling orders at different exchanges.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: calkob on February 14, 2017, 08:33:51 AM
I really dont get the point of this calculator, what is it based on, this needs to be explained for anyone to use it.  it also needs a twek to the GUI also as it looks abit boring.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: danherbias07 on February 14, 2017, 08:36:56 AM
What is the real purpose of this?

Yeah newbies might bite with this kind of illusion but once they knew it was all just mathematics then their out.
You cant predict what can happen with the investors, they might dump anytime or pump. It is all just for fun I think.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: digaran on February 14, 2017, 08:37:48 AM
Why would I need a "space calculator" when I can calculate my self with logic that bitcoin was designed for value to increase while the supply is predetermined from the start and can be tracked to the last satoshi.
Unless you are mentally retarded this thing has no use for you.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: n0ne on February 14, 2017, 08:38:21 AM
Inventing such a calculator for the use of predicting the future price is not at all possible. The price can be predicted just with human minds considering the increasing adoption. Calculator is based upon a pre developed program based upon the price move from the start of bitcoin. This won't be effective all time, the value calculated using calculator and the real value coincides once in 100 predictions.


Title: Re: The world's first calculator used to calculate the possible price changes of BTC
Post by: Victorycoin on February 17, 2017, 02:25:08 PM
What is the real purpose of this?

Yeah newbies might bite with this kind of illusion but once they knew it was all just mathematics then their out.
You cant predict what can happen with the investors,
I guess you have not been trading in the wider financial markets! If not, you would have noticed by now that studies in Sociology and Psychology asserts that human actions are cyclic in nature and so can often be predicted. Prediction as it relates to trading doesn't entail being 100% accurate all the time, any analysis that gives as from 70% accuracy is good enough to return profits for a trader that knows how to manage risk and money.

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they might dump anytime or pump. It is all just for fun I think.
We are talking about Bitcoin here and I don't remember the last time it got dumped. When there is a drop in price, it doesn't necessarily mean the coin has been dumped, because the price didn't get to fall helplessly and never recovered. At the level Bitcoin is, it is now increasing difficult to dump it, because some many people are now having stakes in it unlike before. Price would often go down for profit taking or other reasons, but soon enough it would find its way up again.