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Title: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Alik Bahshi on February 14, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
 Alik Bakhshi
Putin's hand at the White House
   
  It seems that the team has got Trump man Putin, they turned out to be the adviser of the US president, a former Pentagon intelligence chief General Michael Flynn. Interestingly, this retired general More in 2015 was sitting at the table next to Putin at a gala dinner in honor of the 10th anniversary of the Russian television company known for its duplicity in presenting information.

                                                             

     Pictured (http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-38965606) former head of the Pentagon's Intelligence Michael Flynn with a mobile phone in close company at the right hand of Putin. How rival knights of cloak and dagger found themselves at the same table in a friendly company? And it's during the war between Russia and Ukraine and the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions. What is a retired general Flynn talked with Putin over dinner is not known, but it was reported that Flynn, being an unofficial person, that is, before his appointment as advisor to the president, has repeatedly had phone conversations with Russian Ambassador to America, where they discussed new sanctions entered by the president Obama shortly before his inauguration Trump. Thus, Flynn went to a violation of US law, which prohibits private individuals to interfere in the country's international policy issues. Moreover, it is naturally concealed from the public the fact of talks with the Russian ambassador. While I was writing these lines, it was reported that Michael Flynn, without waiting for a scandal, resigned.
 
     This situation inevitably leads to the question, and who is actually the Donald Trump? Sure, Trump was aware of its future contacts with advisor to the ambassador of Russia and knew the subject of secret negotiations. But most importantly - why it was so important for Trump, in general, for America, why the rush? Yes, all the growing anti-Russian sanctions are Russian economic collapse, and it disturbs Revanchists Putin, but Trump? Is it important question of sanctions for Trump, he in such a hurry, before the inauguration of discussing the issue of sanctions? Was he a protégé of Putin, as was former Ukrainian President Yanukovych? Really, as is the case with Yanukovych, Putin also has the dirt on Trump? It seems that Putin is truly a genius in the achievement of its goals: FIFA president Joseph Blatter, President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych is now possible to Donald Trump, who's next? Putin clearly leads the fight undercover, using an open democratic society. By the way, I am sure that Putin was preparing a government coup in Montenegro, where a large number of Russian, owning real estate. This brings to mind the slogan of Putin's defense of the "Russian world", to which he regularly follows - Ukraine, Moldova, and so on throughout the post-Soviet space (1). To implement this policy objective must be to neutralize Putin West, he developed a method, which is a victim of opportunity and Donald Trump.
    One thing is clear - America can not escape a major political and criminal scandal.

1. constituent peoples and its Fuhrer, or Ukraine, and the list goes on. http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-21749
 
14/2/17
Original: http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-31426


 


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Alfa123 on February 14, 2017, 06:34:26 PM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Podgor on February 14, 2017, 07:02:43 PM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.

It's definietly Putin sho invades other countries for money or power and support ISIS.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: pseexh on February 14, 2017, 07:07:20 PM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.

It's definietly Putin sho invades other countries for money or power and support ISIS.
Putin is an enemy of the democratic world! He is doing everything to destroy the very concept of democracy and sponsors around the world autocratic regimes. Not had Duterte come to power in the Philippines as Putin offered him weapons and support.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: craked5 on February 14, 2017, 07:12:47 PM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.

It's definietly Putin sho invades other countries for money or power and support ISIS.
Putin is an enemy of the democratic world! He is doing everything to destroy the very concept of democracy and sponsors around the world autocratic regimes. Not had Duterte come to power in the Philippines as Putin offered him weapons and support.

Duh.
Please give me an example of a Western democracy.
I'd love to see that.
Putin is a dictator but it's not like we're doing much better.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: beafheart on February 14, 2017, 07:31:38 PM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.

It's definietly Putin sho invades other countries for money or power and support ISIS.
Putin is an enemy of the democratic world! He is doing everything to destroy the very concept of democracy and sponsors around the world autocratic regimes. Not had Duterte come to power in the Philippines as Putin offered him weapons and support.

Duh.
Please give me an example of a Western democracy.
I'd love to see that.
Putin is a dictator but it's not like we're doing much better.
Let's take for example America. Yes, I agree that American democracy is not perfect, but the President chose almost 50: 50. In dictatorial countries such as Russia votes for Putin's 80-90% of the population. If you're interested I still have a lot of examples.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Fortify on February 14, 2017, 08:59:32 PM
Duh.
Please give me an example of a Western democracy.
I'd love to see that.
Putin is a dictator but it's not like we're doing much better.
Let's take for example America. Yes, I agree that American democracy is not perfect, but the President chose almost 50: 50. In dictatorial countries such as Russia votes for Putin's 80-90% of the population. If you're interested I still have a lot of examples.

America is probably one of the worst examples of democracy you can use. Back in the good old days it might have worked, when everyone was pulling together and came to a compromise. Now politicians are played like puppets by mega-corporations with very deep pockets. Apparently, you are either republican or democrat, which is twisted to mean you cannot have an opinion that disagrees with particular policies within your party. You might agree with medicare, but disagree with abortion, but because you vote republican there is never any change in discussion on the different topics because "its always been that way"


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: varyspro on February 14, 2017, 09:35:22 PM
Duh.
Please give me an example of a Western democracy.
I'd love to see that.
Putin is a dictator but it's not like we're doing much better.
Let's take for example America. Yes, I agree that American democracy is not perfect, but the President chose almost 50: 50. In dictatorial countries such as Russia votes for Putin's 80-90% of the population. If you're interested I still have a lot of examples.

America is probably one of the worst examples of democracy you can use. Back in the good old days it might have worked, when everyone was pulling together and came to a compromise. Now politicians are played like puppets by mega-corporations with very deep pockets. Apparently, you are either republican or democrat, which is twisted to mean you cannot have an opinion that disagrees with particular policies within your party. You might agree with medicare, but disagree with abortion, but because you vote republican there is never any change in discussion on the different topics because "its always been that way"
I also support you. In America there is no absolute democracy, but can you tell me where it is? I am also against the ban of abortion, but I think such crazy ideas Trump will not get support in society.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: craked5 on February 14, 2017, 09:43:28 PM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.

It's definietly Putin sho invades other countries for money or power and support ISIS.
Putin is an enemy of the democratic world! He is doing everything to destroy the very concept of democracy and sponsors around the world autocratic regimes. Not had Duterte come to power in the Philippines as Putin offered him weapons and support.

Duh.
Please give me an example of a Western democracy.
I'd love to see that.
Putin is a dictator but it's not like we're doing much better.
Let's take for example America. Yes, I agree that American democracy is not perfect, but the President chose almost 50: 50. In dictatorial countries such as Russia votes for Putin's 80-90% of the population. If you're interested I still have a lot of examples.

Choice of head of the state has nothing to do with democracy.
You can have a monarchy which is democratic.
Democracy means the power is in the hand of the people, which would mean that laws and fundamental principles of a country can be modified at will by the people.
A complete study made by Harvard showed that 80% of laws that were passed in USA were against the will of the people and in agreement with the will of the 1% richest of the population. Which means that USA is the exact opposite of a democracy, people have no power.

You chosing your president is NOT democracy, stop using this word for what is just an autocracy.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: squatz1 on February 14, 2017, 11:12:54 PM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.

This is beyond false when it comes to the new administration, Putin didn't agree with the last administration (Obama Administration) on their handling on many situations which easily saw for the heightened hostility between the two countries when that administration was in office. Having Trump in office allows for Russia and the United States to work side by side on many key world issues, such as defeating ISIS.

What Michael Flynn was beyond dumb, I'll agree with yall on that. He should have disclosed to Pence and anyone else important from the Trump administration what he spoke about with the ambassador of Russia.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: CllickerQluicker on February 14, 2017, 11:36:25 PM
putin give help to donald trump, and then trump can win US president election


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Sithara007 on February 15, 2017, 06:55:09 AM
putin give help to donald trump, and then trump can win US president election

Putin gave no support for Donald Trump during the POTUS elections. Trump won just because the Democrats came up with the worst possible candidate, who was hated by anyone with the exception of the LGBTs, radical feminists and leftists loons.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: HabBear on February 15, 2017, 07:20:10 AM
I get the dangers in getting to close to Putin. The guy is notorious for killing off or imprisoning those that oppose him.

But the other side of that argument is called diplomacy. And there is something to be gained by engaging in discussion with Russian under diplomatic intentions. What's the worst that could happen? The US confirms that Putin is not to be trusted and they likely gain some valuable intelligence in the process!

putin give help to donald trump, and then trump can win US president election

Putin did nothing to influence the election. Hillary was an awful Democratic choice and the US electorate is scared to vote for anyone other than Democrat or Republican. Foolish Americans!


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Sithara007 on February 15, 2017, 09:24:55 AM
the US electorate is scared to vote for anyone other than Democrat or Republican. Foolish Americans!

There is no point in voting for a third party candidate, when it is clear that the winner will be from one of the two mainstream parties. You can cast your vote for a third party candidate as a protest, but in the end it is not going to decide the outcome.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Xester on February 15, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
Though we can see the picture of the former general together with Putin but what is the relation of that picture to the United States of America and Trumps administration. We can make several stories about that picture but without certain solid evidence we cannot say that Putin is leading the move against America. There is no such thing as that. Political movements, strategies and operations are somehow complicated and that is why believing in stories without clear evidence and investigation is nothing but a conspiracy theory.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: wowanstrong on February 15, 2017, 12:25:05 PM
I get the dangers in getting to close to Putin. The guy is notorious for killing off or imprisoning those that oppose him.

But the other side of that argument is called diplomacy. And there is something to be gained by engaging in discussion with Russian under diplomatic intentions. What's the worst that could happen? The US confirms that Putin is not to be trusted and they likely gain some valuable intelligence in the process!

putin give help to donald trump, and then trump can win US president election

Putin did nothing to influence the election. Hillary was an awful Democratic choice and the US electorate is scared to vote for anyone other than Democrat or Republican. Foolish Americans!
Americans are really stupid. They never faced populists, liars and idiots striving for power. Russian live always. They are really indirectly helped Trump to run for President, but that does not remove the responsibility from the Americans.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: TrumpD on February 15, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
Putin is not looking to offer any gifts to Trump in exchange for any immediate gain. He's playing a long-term game, in which both Trump and the anti-Russian interests in Washington are now actively aiding him.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Leprikon on February 15, 2017, 07:47:49 PM
Putin is not looking to offer any gifts to Trump in exchange for any immediate gain. He's playing a long-term game, in which both Trump and the anti-Russian interests in Washington are now actively aiding him.
Putin has never played with Americans on the same field. He always organizes provocations against American interests. What is happening in Syria? And in Ukraine? Wherever America is fighting Russia fighting on the opposite side.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Alik Bahshi on June 26, 2017, 06:28:12 PM
CIA Director Mike Pompeo accused Russia of interfering in the American elections and said that Moscow has been undermining American democracy for decades. Western democracy for countries such as Iran and Russia is the ideological enemy of their authoritarian regimes.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: popcorn1 on June 26, 2017, 08:42:15 PM
CIA Director Mike Pompeo accused Russia of interfering in the American elections and said that Moscow has been undermining American democracy for decades. Western democracy for countries such as Iran and Russia is the ideological enemy of their authoritarian regimes.
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SO WHO DECIDED the next president of the USA PUTIN or the USA?..

Electoral College  OH GUESS what they also chose BUSH one time even though he lost..
BUT i suppose it was PUTIN.. ::)

Imagine Russia hacked Clinton not saying they did BUT imagine they did.
All the truth that come out about Clinton was the truth SHE IS A ROTTEN LIAR..

And that's why many people wouldn't vote for her because she just lines her own and her cronies POCKETS..

Now we have TOLD you about PUTIN I.E Russia  about how he as stole monies and the contracts and the murders he as done BUT the Russians keep voting him back in :D :D..

Now the russian are stupid or putin is fixing the elections and acting like the king not democracy..

BUT Russia as become 1000 times better than i have ever known it to be
Because one time in life they would eat each other they was that poor..

And i thinks the RUSSIAN PEOPLE are cool..Not Putin buts the people..
But i don't really like any politician THEY ARE ALL ROBBING FUCKERS :D :D..


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Alik Bahshi on June 27, 2017, 06:43:01 AM
Putin declared war on the entire Western world. It is unfortunate that the West or afraid of it or simply do not understand the dangers of the situation. If not to ratchet up economic pressure on Russia, you will have to fight.

It's definietly Putin sho invades other countries for money or power and support ISIS.
Putin is an enemy of the democratic world! He is doing everything to destroy the very concept of democracy and sponsors around the world autocratic regimes. Not had Duterte come to power in the Philippines as Putin offered him weapons and support.

Putin strangled the sprouts of democracy in Russia, because democracy will destroy the Russian empire. Democracy and empire is nonsense. Putin, as is known, regrets the collapse of the Soviet Union and his policy is aimed at returning all escaped countries back to the empire. And if there was no America, Putin long ago restored the empire.



Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Alik Bahshi on October 11, 2017, 08:31:15 AM
The Israelites cracked the internal network of the Kaspersky Lab and learned that through it the Russians had received data on the national security of the United States. This was immediately transferred to the American allies. As a result, it was instructed to stop using all Kaspersky Lab products to all government agencies.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: covfefe_ on October 11, 2017, 08:44:15 AM
Putin is playing the similar game that US played on it on the cold war.
He's making US weaker from inside the US rather than making a visible intervene.
While competing visible on the outside world.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Almat on October 12, 2017, 02:02:36 AM
Lol, Putin is basically the White House at this point. Notice how Trump barks at anyone without fear but is strangely timid towards Putin. Something stinks in there.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: TheGodFather on October 12, 2017, 07:14:50 AM
Alik Bakhshi
Putin's hand at the White House
   
  It seems that the team has got Trump man Putin, they turned out to be the adviser of the US president, a former Pentagon intelligence chief General Michael Flynn. Interestingly, this retired general More in 2015 was sitting at the table next to Putin at a gala dinner in honor of the 10th anniversary of the Russian television company known for its duplicity in presenting information.

                                                             

     Pictured (http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-38965606) former head of the Pentagon's Intelligence Michael Flynn with a mobile phone in close company at the right hand of Putin. How rival knights of cloak and dagger found themselves at the same table in a friendly company? And it's during the war between Russia and Ukraine and the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions. What is a retired general Flynn talked with Putin over dinner is not known, but it was reported that Flynn, being an unofficial person, that is, before his appointment as advisor to the president, has repeatedly had phone conversations with Russian Ambassador to America, where they discussed new sanctions entered by the president Obama shortly before his inauguration Trump. Thus, Flynn went to a violation of US law, which prohibits private individuals to interfere in the country's international policy issues. Moreover, it is naturally concealed from the public the fact of talks with the Russian ambassador. While I was writing these lines, it was reported that Michael Flynn, without waiting for a scandal, resigned.
 
     This situation inevitably leads to the question, and who is actually the Donald Trump? Sure, Trump was aware of its future contacts with advisor to the ambassador of Russia and knew the subject of secret negotiations. But most importantly - why it was so important for Trump, in general, for America, why the rush? Yes, all the growing anti-Russian sanctions are Russian economic collapse, and it disturbs Revanchists Putin, but Trump? Is it important question of sanctions for Trump, he in such a hurry, before the inauguration of discussing the issue of sanctions? Was he a protégé of Putin, as was former Ukrainian President Yanukovych? Really, as is the case with Yanukovych, Putin also has the dirt on Trump? It seems that Putin is truly a genius in the achievement of its goals: FIFA president Joseph Blatter, President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych is now possible to Donald Trump, who's next? Putin clearly leads the fight undercover, using an open democratic society. By the way, I am sure that Putin was preparing a government coup in Montenegro, where a large number of Russian, owning real estate. This brings to mind the slogan of Putin's defense of the "Russian world", to which he regularly follows - Ukraine, Moldova, and so on throughout the post-Soviet space (1). To implement this policy objective must be to neutralize Putin West, he developed a method, which is a victim of opportunity and Donald Trump.
    One thing is clear - America can not escape a major political and criminal scandal.

1. constituent peoples and its Fuhrer, or Ukraine, and the list goes on. http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-21749
 
14/2/17
Original: http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-31426


 


This is a fair allegation as people have been really thinking that russia might have a hand on the election of Donald atrump because of hackers. however, there really is a strong connection between russia and trump as detailed due to the number of investigations being thrown at their connections.


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: skiller21 on October 12, 2017, 07:34:32 AM
in a short version yes putin has third  hand because of MR. D, TRUMP.....................................
now Russia is controlling America indirectly by the Help of someone who is leader of U.S.A .  if Hilary take the place Putin would not interfere any kinds of issue in U.S.A
may be we should go to Snowden for prediction


Title: Re: Putin's hand at the White House
Post by: Alik Bahshi on August 12, 2022, 09:33:26 AM
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