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Hello,

I'm wondering if there are any websites where I can bet on "skill" based games? What I mean is for example the games over at satoshimines.com and bustabit.com. Obviously they're luck based, but they feel like skill - or rather, my own fault for losing (it's still luck, but they feel that way).

Heck, pure skill games (if there are any of those) would be even better of course.

I'm not looking for rolling dice or similar.

Thank you!

Edit: I should mention that I'm not looking for poker games or other card games. Reason being that I either suck at them (I would probably have bigger chance of winning when rolling dice at 2% chance to win) or don't know how to play at all. I haven't been interested in playing cards the last 30 years of my life and I'm most likely not going to start enjoying them now - even though poker might have a higher chance of winning compared to other games.

Edit 2: Sports betting is also out of the question. Been there, done that.

I did, however, find BitKong.com which is a simple and fun game. I guess that's more what I'm looking for. Simple and fun "unique" games, not the usual slots, dice, rolling games that every site has.

Online Poker involves the most amount of skills.  At BetcoinRakeback.com (http://betcoinrakeback.com) you also get the highest rakeback in all of online poker at 53% to 83%.  That means you would have to be slightly above average to guarantee a profit.

Thanks and take care!

Thanks for the suggestion! However, I probably should've mentioned that poker (or other card games) doesn't interest me. Mostly because I suck at them (or don't know how to play at all).

Any other suggestions? :)

Poker is probably the only game that skill will give you an edge but either way it's still gambling. Try playing video games for rewards if you really are skilled at them then you don't have to worry about stupid petty little card games.

Bustabit is skill based game not sure about the satoshimines though. I'm currently playing bitcoinspinner which is skill based. There are many sites just find something that interests you. Good luck

Oh, I didn't mean actual skill. What I meant was games that give you the illusion of being based on skill, or give you the illusion that it was your own fault that you lost. For example, playing Satoshimines gives you the illusion of being your own fault if you don't cash out but pick too many squares. Bustabit does the same when you can always cash out and it's your own fault for waiting too long.

Obviously both of those games are based on luck and whatever multiplier/mine position the server chooses.

Sorry if that wasn't clear - English isn't my primary language.


Yeah, I'm sure there are many sites out there but I'm looking for suggestions. I've gone through many sites but most just offer the simplest stuff, dice and roulette etc. I'm hoping to find something a bit more fun than that. I'm currently looking into Bitcoinspinner that you mentioned - how do you suppose it's "skill-based" like Bustabit? It seems random to roll the wheel, even if you get to pick the strength.

Ah ok, we'll I prefer games that do actually require skill haha. Pretty much all casinos want you to feel like you were so close to winning so that you'll try try again (and in the end with their edge they'll always win of course.

Right, I think I need to rephrase again (or stop drinking these beers).

I would prefer pure proper skill based games of course, but not card games. If there are none, then games that give you the illusion of it all being your own fault (again, like Bustabit or Satoshimines). Not just some casino slot machine - they might give you the feeling that you were "so close to winning", but that's not what I mean.

Sorry for not being clear enough. :(

There are not many or almost any skill based games except for poker. Rummy is a game I have seen in some places, but its also a card game. This is mostly because skill would mean you can get an edge over the casinos, and they obviously don't want that. So only multiplayer games are your options.


If you mean that feeling, then Plinko can be called as being one such game.

First of all, you're wrong, not that it's much of a surprise. Secondly, nice feedback.

You could try playing Roulette at Bitsler or at one of the moneypot roulette sites. Low house edge, and when you lose, it's kinda your own fault for picking the wrong number (like picking the wrong tile at satoshimines). You could also try sliders at bubblesbit or bit-exo. It's kinda like dice, except you pick the winning ranges and if you lose, you kinda think it's your fault.

Not sure if there are any others that aren't card games.

OP said that he doesn't like card games. Poker is poker, I know couple good card games but non of them available for online playing and gambling.
I played dragon tale a year ago, its not easy you will see that. You will need skill and luck, good luck with this one, I hope I helped you.

http://www.dragons.tl/bitcoins.php (http://www.dragons.tl/bitcoins.php)

Yeah, I've tried the sliders and all of Bitsler's games. They're not at all like Satoshimines or Bustabit in my opinion. At least I don't get the same feeling when losing (or winning). Thank you for the suggestions though!

It's absolutely pointless and it's a waste of time in trying to explain where you're wrong and misinformed.  In no way shape or form is the 27% RB offered on a WPN skin even close to the 53 - 83% RB offered at BetcoinRakeback.com, even if Betcoin's rake in some games is slightly higher.  And the leaderboards for ACR doesn't matter at all because you'd have to rake from hundreds to TENS of thousands in a week's time to win anything meaningful.

Also nice feedback:

https://i.gyazo.com/d7eaedac5f8355bbda23b1a140dd707a.png

https://i.gyazo.com/df491149a5ed5fdc9d319870ab2c8036.png

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Correct! As you charge a prodigious rake, your similiar rakeback offer compared to WPN skins is worse.  


You have to rake around $100 in Sit & Gos to get $50 + a $55 tournament entry. Nice story though. :D


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Ahh, you might missed that part, but your betcoin.ag is in free fall recently on Alexa Global Rank (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betcoin.ag): 165,138 - 58,004 = 52% down within 2 months!

So who is right and who is wrong?

You are doubtless the number 1 in giving illusions...

Please, please take your dispute somewhere else. I don't mean to be rude, but you two are really off-topic. I'm still looking for fun games to bet (hopefully win) Bitcoins on.

You asked where you can find illusions and betcoin.ag is doubtless the number 1 source!

I also said I'm not interested in card games so those posts have nothing to do with my question. Good pun though.

They offer other games as well and I swear they are the number one illusion site you can find in the internet. :)

I've made 10mbtc from $1 which is 1mbtc it's fun as every 4-5 spin I'm winning by making double I started playing them when they were doing promotion and providing 2mbtc free to play.

Oh, I'm sure it can be fun and all but I'm just saying that it's not "skill", or at least don't feel like it, compared to Bustabit and Satoshimines. I might try them out a bit, we'll see. Thanks!

We just launched this website with an innovative skill game! it is a pure player vs. player without luck or random!

bitllions.com (http://www.bitllions.com/)

If you really looking for skill base game since you are not want to hear about poker go to sports betting you can gain more chance to win because you can choose a good team for watching their previous games the skills there is for analyzing who will win..
You can also try dragon tale http://www.dragons.tl/ i do not know if this game still alive but i play this game past few months.. you can get many games there and almost all are skill base game like in ricepond..

Can you please explain the "skill" part of this game and based on what kind of "skill" decision would I have an advantage towards my oponents?

Unfortunately I hate sports. I even tried watching e-sports and betting on them but it grew old fast. The games I'm looking for doesn't have to be advanced or anything (I mean, Satoshimines and Bustabit are simple as hell), but they do have to look clean and be easy to get into.

Dragons.tl doesn't really fit that description, with a slow website, ugly design and really not much information about it at all. Doesn't fit my "requirements" unfortunately. It also sounds like it's an included miner in the "game". So yeah...

I really do appreciate the suggestion though!

The skill is about being smart and playing the best strategy. You choose two variables: the bet amount ant the multiplier. This gives you a FACTOR. At the end of the round, bets are paid starting from the higher to the lower FACTOR. If the POT is not enough to pay a bet, the bet loses and the process skips to the next bet.

You only know the total pot and the amount of all bets, but you don't know the multiplier and the factor. So basically, you have to guess what the other players have chosen and play your strategy. It is a game of skill, because there is no luck, no random numbers involved.

Sounds to me like that's pretty close to the definition of luck.

Choose the amount amount and multiplier is exactly what I do when playing roulette (multiplier 2 to 36x). And this is called luck game and has nothing to do with skill!

How exactly do I interact with the other players involved?


Um, is there a strategy how I can analyse what bet amount and multiplier my opponents have chosen?

If not, then this is a pure luck game, like nu1mlock has already detected.

maybe you can trying to play sports betting, in sports betting, you need to have knowledge and skills to analyze each of teams and you need to calculate the chances you can win. i think poker is need skills too like sports betting because in poker you need to combine the cards and compile the cards so you can win the games.

Well, I don't like sports so I would never be able to properly bet on sports. I do play PC games though, so some of those could be interesting. But I've already tried (and am currently) betting on e-sports. It's not that interesting, so I got bored of it quickly. Besides, if I would bet on sports, I can just use my bank account. The whole point of playing BTC games is for fun while still being able to earn some money if I'm lucky.

Lol at referring me as Betcoin.  That's funny.

In this case I guess sports betting is the best choice for you. Directbet.eu is now the most popular sports betting site, so you should try it. I think this involves skills, because at least these are some real games with real people in real teams you can find information about. At least this should look like a skill game, because there is some material to analyze which might help you win. Good luck!
Edit: I've seen now that you say you don't like sports betting... Then I guess there are no games left...

Are there really no fun games where you can win (and lose of course) Bitcoin that aren't card games or sports betting or slot machines? Except for Satoshimines, Bustabit and the games over at Bitsler? There has to be some more?

The reason why they don't have those types of "skill" games is because it would be very easy to cheat.

For example say a Casino came out with a Chess type of game. How does the casino know you aren't using a bot to cheat. Since there are simulation bots for casinos.

Skill based games usually need to be done and played in person to prevent this from happening.

Sure, but what about simply fun games that aren't sport betting or cards? Something where you can gamble and have fun playing at the same time.

Chess could be better option but to build a site of it is too complicated. I dont know if there is a website for this.

Chess with bitcoin is good but the main problem is that we do not know whether our opponent is a real player (human) or just a bot. Pure skill based game is kinda hard to find but I think there was a site where we can play a basketball game (throw balls into the basket). Not really remember the name of the site and I dont know whether the site is still alive or not.

I don't know much about skill base game but just poker or sports betting ones, I usually play gambling base on luck most of the time, but I think that most gambling games was really base on luck, well it is just a coincidental win on most betting games that is why I am not sure what kind of sites I might suggest for you but try nitrogensports.eu a sports betting site where you can bet on your favorite team on NBA, favorite player on tennis and much more but the thing that I am fond in this site is the betting for DOTA 2 and League of Legends games!

Their are many skill based gambling game , The most famous one is the poker , chess and I am considering sports betting as skill based game because you need a skill their to pick or to investigate the team you are betting for. Their are many websites here that has the games that is mentioned , other replys stated their gambling sites.

what about using anti bot for preventing cheat like captcha or similar? there was some skill based game with prize in bitcoin like 2048 but it was plagued by bot because they didn't rely on catpcha

As I know games 2048 doesn't require skill if you have good memory then you can easily to resolve it. I remember when bitcoin 2048 made annoucement if there who can resolve game 2048 will get prize 1btc if im not wrong but then they have change it due many people can easy to resolve it.

Have you tried the Peer 2 Peer Game, BitcoinRush?

It's located here, you can play against the Faucet Bot for free to learn how to play the game: https://www.bitcoinrush.io/bitcoin-casino/bitcoinrush/index

well poker does not only need skills, there is also a huge amount of luck involved in it because you need to to get good cards what does not depend on you at all unfortunately. For me the best skill based games website is cashclamber.com I really recommend it

What do you mean sportbetting as skill based games? Since when that you need some skills to play on sportbetting? There is no skill requirement to place bet on sportbetting and more over sport betting games always need some experience to bet on it and you only need to gather more information to make sure that particular team gonna win or may be other variance too. The only games that is require skill is only poker games, nothing more can compare with it. And i can recommend some poker site betcoin.ag

Poker is more skill based when you play it in a real casino against real humans at the table. But when you are playing it online the rules are different. For example, you can't count any cards because the cards are shuffled after each hand.

In a casino, there are multiple decks and they get shuffled after numerious hands are dealt. That and there is also your opposite who can easily try to bluff and you can read people. You can't do that online since you don't see your opponents.

I found that BitKong.com is a simple but fun game as well. I guess those are the kinds of games that I'm really looking for. So any more tips with games similar to BitKong, Satoshimines and Bustabit is greatly appreciated! They do not need a faucet, but some way to test the games without actual money would be nice.

OP is not looking for a poker game and other cards games and sports betting. He is looking something else. But for me also these games are skill games apart from these games even I don't know other games. But OP is asking other games if anyone know the other skill games, please share here. It will help skill based gamblers to make some money.

Try flinch.io, same as bustabit  ;)

bitkong is definitely not based on skills to be honest, in my opinion it is based on pure luck just like dice or any other ordinary gambling website, poker or something like that is more skill based because you act dependently on the situation.

I'm well aware that it's not based on skill. But it's definitely one of the few games I enjoy playing. So, like I said, more games like that - games that are fun and looks good is more important to me.

I myself found many sites for the game, including video games like FIFA and CSGO, card and board games here:  http://www.skillgames.zone

Some of the sites accept Americans and bitcoin too. Play responsibly)))

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