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They were caught cheating cards on Blackjack, video evidence below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1EiWvN11nU#t=02m


PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT BET.

BUSTED PIGS ;D

get those cunts shut down

what is betonline.AG, iam first hear about betonline.AG, where link announcement thread in bitcointalk
or you mean betcoin.AG
and why youre not recomended, you any problem withdraw in there

Betonline.ag and Betcoin.ag are 2 totally different companies.  Betcoin.ag offers the highest rakeback in all of online poker when you sign up with BetcoinRakeback.com (http://betcoinrakeback.com) while Betonline.ag doesn't have any affiliates that offer extra rakeback.

I don't think betonline.AG is same with betcoin.AG although both of sites have "AG". When i tried to searching on this forum, i found the thread about betonline.AG (that thread has been quite old too) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1078817.0
Have you tried to open the link (Youtube) which given by OP? You should know too when you see what OP posted on above.
What a shame for them. Here is another video but in slow motion, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc
(see at 1.26 - 1.28 )

Seriously after looking at all these videos, I think this casino will go out of business soon, how can a casino cheat players this way, by dealing the second card. And the way the dealer do it, it is alike telling the customer in the face saying I am just cheating in front of you, I don't give a damn, hahaha.

Big thanks to the OP for showing this video link, this will prevent many players from getting scam by this casino.

Omg, how stupid you have to be to cheat live? With camera on? And that bastard is smiling!
Nice catch OP, i saw this kind of things only in movies.

140K Views in just few hours. Players should be aware of these CUNTS.
And SBR is constantly deleting all the negative posts about this "A+" book. Paid bitches everywhere.

https://i.imgur.com/fZ5UBRv.png

Yes they dont have shame. They think people will not see what they doing. Its s clever little card trick to pull off when someone is not paying attention at a casino but a lice casino ? That's ridiculous ! You can see his hand is doing something strange even if you only glance over. His hand is there for too long Eben if you didn't manage to see the card pop up.


Thst is why I wouldn't ever trust those. Who judges those ratings ? What makes them qualified to make that judgement ?
This guys YouTube channel he does gambling a lot so I will be more inclined to trust his rating then some online site noone even knows who runs it. He evn has video proof they cheat.

I saw this video early this morning , yeah it's clear that the dealer grabbed the 2nd card but I don't know if it's cheating or not
I mean the bets weren't that high and I really doubt that betonline will risk their reputation for such small bets , so probably it's the dealer fault
in general let's wait for what betonline will announce , cause the video got insane views and I think they will reply to that soon

i think we must get rid of those cheater..........

These casinos they use are with live dealers video feeds?!?

IF they are then the live dealer provider is responsible for being caught cheating their players who use the operator in this case betonline, and are the one who should be the ones who are fined and have their gambling license revoked for cheating and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the laws against fraud.
You know how much money they are making on these live dealer sites? Millions per day. I have seen people betting 10,000 BTC hands and losing them while there just for 1 or 2 hands. These casinos win more than what the players actually win and that is within the 10 minutes that I was at the last casino that I was using last week. That is just not acceptable for them to even cheat their players when the game is hard enough as it is to win with the amount of decks they use in a shoe (something like 8 decks which I was told by their official casino pitboss several times).
Find out which provider they are using and get a class action lawsuit going and you will win it because of the video proof being recorded.
I have seen a lot deceitful things at these live dealer casinos that I have been preevy to recording it they would be shutdown for cheating long ago because everything is recorded by the providers and they must hand these in if the operator are suspect of them of doing things that can get their license revoked from caught cheating on camera. That is the law! And if they don't then they will lose millions if not a billion in civil law suits filed against them and they are obligated to hand them over in a court of law if a dispute is filed against them.
The name of the company provider are they using?

They should really make some words out of this situation because those actual moves are definitely cheating which most users or members observed too and one thing that pisses me off that dealer is always smiling eh? He think he could able to fool us easily. This should be bust out.

It might not be only from this casino because almost all the online casinos here use the same providers so it's probably best to avoid all live casino games after seeing this video .

Most if not all online casinos use them including the biggest (And baddest?) of them all

Cloudbet :P

They have since taken down all their blackjack tables since this video was released 24 hours ago if not told to them before hand because I saw them not available on Friday night after their site update was done while I was logging in to there. Only their baccarat tables were up and they were bringing them online one at a time(like they always do after a system update -it resets everything) but those tables didn't come back up to have players use.
Coincidence? I do not think so now after seeing this come out to the public.

Game-protect is currently investigating Ezugi.

There aren't many mentions on this forum of the casino and they don't even have an official thread here, so yes, we shouldn't trust the casinos which trust can't be checked on this forum. And the video is very informative and interesting to watch.
Yes, perhaps it is the end for this one. However, the same people can take the money and invest it into a new casino like that where for some time they will be able to cheat uncaught.

The end? No it is not.
The support and IT team refuse to be responsible for their actions of what they are doing. Which is committing fraud! That is why they out source these providers in country in Central america and others that do not have to abide by U.S laws for casinos like Las Vegas does have to due to U.S regulation. They are in a safe haven zone and they know that they can not be touched due even if anybody had an evidence (and this video evidence is the best evidence you can ever get!) of them doing this trickery against the players whom are using their casino services.
The support person whom are on the liver dealer's screen can be seen by them all the time during their blackjack hands so they are either giving them a sign to not do that or to go ahead they will just change what the players see on their home screens and the this change is what the dealers see on their screen.
It is a rather sophisicated system they have got there. I even witnessed this once when I was playing at the Central america casino at cloudbet. The dealer had not flip her cards yet but she said they had a Blackjack. But the card was facing down on the table so how would she have know it was a Black jack they had for their cards? Unless the scanner they wave the cards infront of shows them every card that is given to the players and the support/it person behind the screen just changes the cards on their system so you see it what they changed it but that is not what it sposse to be. From that point I knew it was all a scam artist job going on with this Ezugi casino provider and never played with them since.
They are scamming, committing fraud and straight out cheating every player who goes to the casinos whom uses them as the providers out of their player's money. >:(

Wow, first time I am seeing this. They didn't have a uniform card in this, otherwise if it was something like a Bee back design of cards, it would almost be invisible.

I am curious if the other casinos do this as well. I wonder why would a casino room cheat specially since they are only hired to provide live dealers and get paid a subscription fees.

What is the name of BetOnline's Blackjack live dealer provider?

That is pathetic. They already have house edge. Why does casino have to steal even more from players?  ??? ???

LOL. This is absolutely disastrous. Wasn't sodapoppin sponsoring these guys? Or am i wrong? It's a pity that so many people sponsor these scams aswell. oh well.



Could you eleborate how you are able to give so much rakeback? I've seen you advertising your site somewhere else aswell, and it got my attention then aswell.

Just create website out of their reach and promote here, reddit, and other places. Burn them to the ground.

This way you can make free out their reach place where true will be always at the top.

If you play blackjack, do it at the provably fair bitcoin casinos.

Fuck yeah. once google and other search engines will pick the subject and index that they will loose shit loads and no one will publish fake ratings.

Lol that guy was caught right on the spot.  I bet he is not that fast to do the trick lol.  He flicked the cards way too high for the viewer to not notice.  I wonder if every casino do this kind of stuff lol.  I am curious what happen next to this case, the the person involved got fired?

I read Chico Poker Network.

"You heard of Class action law suit before? You know what that means don't you?!"

Of course: https://game-protect.com/full-flush-poker-litigation/

"Claimants don't pay a fucking dime for services rendered the state where they are filing it against do!"

In the Unites States not, but abroad yes. And all those cases are outside the US.

"Why would I who lost money in these fraudulent actions from this corporate conglomurate with Cloudbet who is failing and falling now(they are at their weakest point act now or else it will be too late, they run away to tax haven hideaway!) and this Ezugi casinos even want to put any more in the toliet with this bs situation?"

You don't know how much money cloudbet has, you don't know how much money the liable owners of cloudbet have.

WSEX also closed business owing over US $1 mio, but the responsible founder is still millionaire:

http://game-protect.com/wsex-haden-ware/

From what I have seen, that isn't always the solution for new people. For sites like Nitrogensports, despite being provably fair there is a speculation that they set the initial seeds as such that it makes the dealer win more number of times. And since most of the people, new to gambling or on nitrogen, usually don't change their initial seeds, their bets later verify after they have lost a lot of hands.

I don't fully comprehend provably fair, but if there is one book that doesn't cheat, my opinion is that it would be Nitrogen.

Source?

I just did a google search. A couple of places confirmed.

That is because it is the only provably fair bitcoin site with digital blackjack as of now. I believe all the other sites just offer it live or don't offer it at all. If you look at threads or posts in their thread from the time they started Blackjack, there is a lot of chatter about it not being fair, if you don't change your seed.

Fuck them pugly bitches.  I'd neva lay a single DOGEtoshi on thet place.  Y'all gots ta be stupider than most ta pull this kinda bullshit.  Y'all bet there, y'all deserve ta lose evverthang you got.

Thank you for the heads up, will keep that in mind! For the future. :) :) :)

Did not find anything about Chico Poker Network, but Global Gaming Labs

They got the proof cheating as you can seen the hand of dealer are giving signal and you can see his face laughing while doing cheating..
For those who are gamble should look for a legit one where people are always gamble ..
Well since never heard betonline.ag so be careful next time..

I'm probably wrong. Live different? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/unofficial-chico-network-betonline-tiger-etc-discussion-thread-1621890/

first time i've heard about it. nice to see they have nothing to do with betcoin.ag since i'm a poker player there(and i'm on their campaign).
and damn... he even laugh when cheating... they dont even care about it.

You think any of these shady and slimy dealers who deals you those fake computer generated cards care about the players?
They talk about how dumb the last player they dealt too lost their entire lives savings on one hand on their coffee breaks to the other dealers in the break rooms. :-[
What do you think? They area malicious as the crooked casino that they work for pesos or $12 an hour or whatever they pay them with if anything at all but just something to do because they are drug addicts or homeless.  ::)

I had one girl tell me straight out when I said that I just lost $150 on a hand she just dealt to me when they had 3 blackjack in a row (which is statistically impossible) trying to get back what I lost on the previous two hands.
She just told me "Do you think I care!?!  :P"
Now that told me right there they are just there for this crappy job throwing down cards and just love it when the players  come throw their money at them to feed whatever addiction they have in their shitty little banana republic slumhole of a city they are based out of.
And that village depends on this casino to get a quarter of what the main man who is running this scam job scheme is actually raking in from all those players losing from their deceitful casino practices.
This won't be the first or the last we will hear of this happening to any other bitcoin casino customers.
This I would assure you.

Guys
SBR grades the sportsbook


not the casino

You do know there are people from other sportsbooks that post negative things
about another book.

IMO
It is not worth it for SBR to knowingly give good ratings to a book and risk repuation.

This recnt BJ video could be a reason to downgrade though, depending on if they change their provider.

What is SBR?
Is this a casino sportsbook review website or something?
Never heard of them before and would like more information on them.
I have been using some sportsbooks and what to know before using them if I need to know something before getting into trouble with them like what's happening with some others here lately.  :-\

That's clearly cheating those should be shut down right away and should file a case against them. Cheating is never an option in games.

Thanks for sharing, OP. That's some F'ed up shit right there. Oh and that guy's call to betonline's phone support with him punking the support guy and the "supervisor" guy. Instant classic.

it is a well known review site and forum
Of course they make money from promoting sportsbooks so there could be some conflict of interest.
On the other hand promoting shit books doesnt help them in the long run.
They ban a lot of people from their forum , I myself am also banned.
I still think SBR does a good job overall and is a good resource. It just shouldnt be the only one.
Im sure you get books with shill forum accounts talking shit about each other just like you have here.
I hope betonline gets a new provider and does not tolerate what we see in the video.

from gaming911

And all bold is from a personal message to you which was in confidence to you only and I did not give my approval to post it publically.
So THAT RIGHT THERE shows JUST HOW AN ETHICAL PERSON YOU REALLY ARE!
You just showed your value of ethics here.
You must of been banned from the lawyers bar so you come here looking for money for food.

HA! :D

wow!
busted like bitches they are
I don't know what excuse the casino will come up with,but this has been caught on camera and went viral already
this could be their dealer that gone rogue and tried to set them up
or (and this is what worries me most) it is the casino's "policy" and they are DELIBERATELY cheating their customers on a regular basis
either way this video should kill their ratings and no gambler in his right mind should be playing there
 

Yes it is going viral now! ;D
http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/guy-finds-proof-online-gambling-games-are-fixed

It deserves to be on the nightly news on all cable networks.
Somebody put out a call to American cable network.
Fox News will more than likely put this on their Breaking News story by 11pm tonight! ;)

I love how that guy thought that nobody would notice.

If you notice, the dealer fondled the card with his fingertip before he decided to deal out the card underneath it.  The cards must have a perforation of some form on them for him to be able to determine that the card was helpful to his hand from just a touch.  Right?  That means that the casino was involved because they issued the cards....How did he know what the card was otherwise?

Lol but both are clearly scams. Look at this fool still promoting them, he's obviously making a buck off of it or he'd have been gone a long time ago. Careful everyone. Trust no one.

Why is there only one video available, if live dealers do this habitually?

Live dealer means you can see everything live, including the cards?

I believe the casino already knew the cards order beforehand in the dealer shoe in this Betonline.AG incident, there is one incident when a group of people went to a casino, there is a guy that hide a super small camera in his long sleeve shirt and normally casino will allow players to cut the card.

This guy will swipe the full deck with that card, and just in this short few seconds, the camera capture all the card order, and this guy will send this data back to his friends in the hotel room, and by slowing down the speed of the video 100 times using some technology, the full order of the cards can be known.

Here is the link of the news:
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2011/feb/02/casinos-guard-against-asian-baccarat-gang/ (https://lasvegassun.com/news/2011/feb/02/casinos-guard-against-asian-baccarat-gang/)

I have been saying this for years. They are also using holograms. Ezugi live casinos are doing it as well. They are manipulating the results of the outcomes.