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Title: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Kennji on April 18, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
I have read that 7970 is the best bang for the buck?

Input please?


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Kennji on April 18, 2013, 11:20:47 PM
I just noticed that the 7990 is out.  Anyone have any experience with that card?


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Kruncha on April 18, 2013, 11:21:39 PM
And your right, it is.

But, maybe ASIC is going to make them obsolete...

K.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Lauda on April 18, 2013, 11:22:38 PM
GPU mining is becoming less and less efficient due to rising difficulty levels.
But yeah I'm thinking 7970 is good.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: jambaman42 on April 18, 2013, 11:23:27 PM
The only 7990s I've seen cost 900 dollars and probably won't be worth say 3 7950s for about the same cost. Can't really speak as to what is the best. You have to look around. I thought I was getting a good deal on a couple 6950s and ended up going with 3 6870s for the same price and more khash (I'm going for litecoin but the same principle applies)


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Eb0la on April 18, 2013, 11:31:33 PM
I personally am using 6x 7950's for my mining rig. 


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Lauda on April 18, 2013, 11:37:09 PM
Note: unless you can afford a lot of gpu's as an investment right now, maybe 7-8 gpu's or more, you probably shouldn't.
Rising difficulty rates :/. Or try litecoin.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Dossis on April 18, 2013, 11:39:57 PM
I'm quite much newbie to this mining but from what I've learned is that 7970 is pretty good.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Lauda on April 18, 2013, 11:41:30 PM
It's rather simple, a 7970 should give you around 600 MH/s, with the right flags and bit of OC i think you should get 700-750MH/s atleast.
That's decent :)


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Kennji on April 18, 2013, 11:48:54 PM
I just figure that I should get a 7970 or 7990 because if asic really does come out I can always sell the 7970 card on eBay or something probably for really close to what I paid for it.  They seem to hold their value pretty well.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Lauda on April 18, 2013, 11:53:46 PM
Cheapest 7970: Newegg $399 - 600MH/s average.
Cheapest 7990: Newegg $899 - 1200MH/s average.

Depends how much you can invest. Note: there might not be product available now at those prices.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: MashRinx on April 19, 2013, 12:17:01 AM
I just figure that I should get a 7970 or 7990 because if asic really does come out I can always sell the 7970 card on eBay or something probably for really close to what I paid for it.  They seem to hold their value pretty well.

Agreed.  I bought quite a fes last summer at $375, a rate I can't even find again today.  They have held their value extremely well so far.  Once the 8000 series comes out, it will be interesting to see, but it's still a very good card.  I would be interested to see how well you can keep a 7990 cool, and if you could really get 2 x 7970 hashing rates.  My understanding is it's basically twice the power at more than double to cost, so just doesn't make sense to me unless you only have a limited number of slots to fill and plenty pf PCI Express connectors available on a nice PSU.

Per the post from LaudaM below, my 7970s are OCd to 1125 (anything beyond that, they get too unstable to be worth it), and I am between 690 - 695.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: VladK on April 19, 2013, 02:42:28 AM
Obviously 7970 and 7990 are the best ones.
But I personally like very cheap 6930, that could easily get 320, or even 350 Mh/s and cost 80-100$


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: ipxtreme on April 19, 2013, 02:43:18 AM
I think any AMD 5830 is the best bang for the buck. Its hard to find them for sale anywhere.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: kendle on April 19, 2013, 02:50:28 AM
From what I have been reading the 7950 is very efficient.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: ipxtreme on April 19, 2013, 02:57:28 AM
true but cost to buy the card is more.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: kendle on April 19, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
Oh I was comparing 7970 vs 7950.

I currently use 5870's, and they are not easy to find either.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: 18RATTT on April 19, 2013, 03:01:58 AM
I think any AMD 5830 is the best bang for the buck. Its hard to find them for sale anywhere.
whats the Mhash on this card?


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: AlphaWolf on April 19, 2013, 03:04:31 AM
The best card is the one you already own. Spending money on a GPU at this point is a losing proposition for *most*.

EDIT:

Expanding upon that... If you have $400 to spend, spend it on actual BTC.  Then you will have ~4 BTC now.  A $400 GPU will get you 4 BTC... when???  Diminishing returns every 2 weeks, plus electricity cost.  Alternately, you could spend it on an ASIC mining contract, or actual ASIC hardware.  Just not GPUs, if you're expecting to make a profit.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: FinShaggy on April 19, 2013, 04:31:35 AM
Can you guys help over here?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180268.0


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Kennji on April 19, 2013, 04:36:55 AM
6930 gets speed like that for that cheap?!  Interesting.

I still think I am going to roll with 7970s for now.  7990 is too much ... but 400 I can roll with because they will hold their value for a long time like a nice used car!

I see 5850s out there for 180 range still.  That is INSANE!


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Kennji on April 19, 2013, 04:41:05 AM
At todays prices ... you will make about 7.50 per day with a 7970.

53 days range to pay it off, if the market stays at 105 USD per BTC.

That is not too bad in my opinion.  That is including power cost on this calculator I found.



Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Lauda on April 19, 2013, 04:43:55 AM
At todays prices ... you will make about 7.50 per day with a 7970.

53 days range to pay it off, if the market stays at 105 USD per BTC.

That is not too bad in my opinion.  That is including power cost on this calculator I found.



Wrong because of 2 reasons: 1) high chances the BTC per USD rate will drop.
more importantly 2) you didn't calculate in increasing difficulty factor.
Use: http://dev.bitcoinx.com/profit/
even that's not accurate, since in a week or two you already have a diffciulty of 11+ million


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Kennji on April 19, 2013, 04:46:40 AM
What makes difficulty go up so much??


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: AlphaWolf on April 19, 2013, 04:58:18 AM
What makes difficulty go up so much??

People with ASCI miners, and increased awareness of Bitcoin resulting in more people mining.  The more hashrate you throw at the network, the more the difficulty increases to compensate.



Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Signus on April 19, 2013, 06:52:20 AM
If you're investing in GPU mining, you have to go big or go home at this point. Remember to check out the hardware comparison guide, and see where you get the most MH/$.

Either a 7950 or 7970 would work very well, as long as you buy bulk.


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: Cryptorig on April 19, 2013, 09:49:26 AM
Hd7950s! 7970 use a lot more power, and cost 30% more for 17% improvement in H/s. hd7950s only use around 200w each. Much better long term. I use 7950 in all the rigs I build, unless I have a customer that can't be talked out of using 7970s :)


Title: Re: Best GPU for mhash per electricity usage?
Post by: rovchris on April 19, 2013, 09:56:08 AM
It depends on how much you can overclock the card while decreasing the voltage to it.

The entire thing is a balancing act.

The more powerful cards you have  - the fewer motherboards you require.

There is a big overhead in running more machines with less powerful cards in it.

The best you can do at the moment is 4 * 7970 in one machine - that will give you the most mh/s per watt

This will pull around 1150 watts at the wall and 2.8gh/s

There is a bios memory limitation in installing more than 8 gpus in one machine. a 7970 counts as 2 gpus.

If you try and connect more you the card will show up in device manager with an error against it.