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Title: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: IPTVReseller on February 22, 2017, 08:36:43 PM
They have scammed me and numerous others in there threads.. Why doesn't a member with high status negative rep them.. What the f


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: arcanaaerobics on February 22, 2017, 08:42:15 PM
They have scammed me and numerous others in there threads.. Why doesn't a member with high status negative rep them.. What the f
They pay them off with their bank from all the players at their site they 'rolled' the bitcoins from.
You didn't hear?
They are trying to prolong their scamming site a bit longer because the CEO of Cloudbet is stuck on a taxi flight from Costa rica to the Bahamas where he can hide all of the losers at their site's money/BTC they have raked in and collected over the 4 years of this entire scam job operation.

They have too much against them they are ready to exit pretty soon so just wait for it.
It will come soon. Just wait for it.. watch and see. ;)


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: IPTVReseller on February 22, 2017, 08:45:52 PM
So many scammers on this forum even the green trust members don't do nothing about it, such bullshit.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: DarkStar_ on February 23, 2017, 12:51:08 AM
So many scammers on this forum even the green trust members don't do nothing about it, such bullshit.

Having green trust doesn't give you any power. Anyway, make a proper scam accusation so more people can see it, with solid evidence, and then they might be tagged. Can't believe your complaining about them not giving negative trust when you haven't even done it yourself though.

I personally don't think they are a scam, just that their support is the worst and can take forever to resolve something. They have a few thousand BTC though, so maybe time to hire better staff?


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: IPTVReseller on February 23, 2017, 01:27:47 AM
So many scammers on this forum even the green trust members don't do nothing about it, such bullshit.

Having green trust doesn't give you any power. Anyway, make a proper scam accusation so more people can see it, with solid evidence, and then they might be tagged. Can't believe your complaining about them not giving negative trust when you haven't even done it yourself though.

I personally don't think they are a scam, just that their support is the worst and can take forever to resolve something. They have a few thousand BTC though, so maybe time to hire better staff?

How much do they pay you ?

They cancelled a wager I placed that was winning and this is the email response I get :

Brandon Moher (Cloudbet)
Feb 22, 21:25 UTC

Hi,

Thanks for reaching out.

Markets were open with the wrong score at the time of your bets as such all affected markets in the same time frame have been cancelled.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused. If there's anything else I can do for you, please let me know.

Best regards,

Brandon Moher

Cloudbet Support Team

I bet nearly at the beggining  of the match and was watching it


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: tommy163 on February 23, 2017, 08:17:31 AM
AFAIK, the same situation happens in secondtrade, they are both scam sites with solid proofs, but DT members never give them negative feedback. What is the reason?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.0


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: Gotottack on February 23, 2017, 01:13:09 PM
So much scam sites in gambling. Probably just stick to those that have been tried and tested without any scam accusation or blemish in their name. Just use the sites like Nitrogensports, 5dimes, and I think there have been plenty of old trusted gambling sites now accepting bitcoins aside from fiat.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: arcanaaerobics on February 23, 2017, 01:33:50 PM
So much scam sites in gambling. Probably just stick to those that have been tried and tested without any scam accusation or blemish in their name. Just use the sites like Nitrogensports, 5dimes, and I think there have been plenty of old trusted gambling sites now accepting bitcoins aside from fiat.
But find out first where the sites you are using are located. Cause if something happens to your account later on and they are found in anyway liable they will have to redact and pay you out from fault of their own.
But if they are in a country where they are protected by laws where you can not do or say anything about them and their term and conditions you agreed to when you signed up for an account. Then you are up schitt's creek without paddle. They do not have to give you or say shit at all to you. Just be warned.

So where are the sites you suggest we all should trust and use from now on located?
Nitrogensports - their physical location and the location of their license and register?
These are things which are important to know so your covering yourself against any arguements if they decide to pull a fast one and give you BS answers just like CB is from all the misgraded bets they have had been not been paying their customers out for and a reoccurring issue for a very very long time.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: game-protect on February 23, 2017, 01:33:58 PM
AFAIK, the same situation happens in secondtrade, they are both scam sites with solid proofs, but DT members never give them negative feedback. What is the reason?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.0
I have already added cloudbet to the Warnings section (https://game-protect.com/online-gambling-scams/) and if you are more precisely, I could add secondstrade as well?


So where are the sites you suggest we all should trust and use from now on located?
Nitrogensports - their physical location and the location of their license and register?
These are things which are important to know so your covering yourself against any arguements if they decide to pull a fast one and give you BS answers just like CB is from all the misgraded bets they have had been not been paying their customers out for and a reoccurring issue for a very very long time.
Nitrogensports is a hide the operator site and 5Dimes is known and incorporated in Costa Rica.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: arcanaaerobics on February 23, 2017, 01:46:22 PM
AFAIK, the same situation happens in secondtrade, they are both scam sites with solid proofs, but DT members never give them negative feedback. What is the reason?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.0
I have already added cloudbet to the Warnings section (https://game-protect.com/warnings-online-gaming-operators/) and if you are more precisely, I could add secondstrade as well?


So where are the sites you suggest we all should trust and use from now on located?
Nitrogensports - their physical location and the location of their license and register?
These are things which are important to know so your covering yourself against any arguements if they decide to pull a fast one and give you BS answers just like CB is from all the misgraded bets they have had been not been paying their customers out for and a reoccurring issue for a very very long time.
Nitrogensports is a hide the operator site and 5Dimes is known and incorporated in Costa Rica.
If they are "a hide" then why did I just find this which has been posted just yesterday about them?

electreum February 22, 2016   Reviews Leave a comment 1,477 Views

Claiming to be the largest and most trusted bitcoin sportsbook and casino, Nitrogen Sports is a Costa Rica based online gambling site created for serious players. Before you even get to see the homepage, you will be greeted by a dialog box that tries to make sure that you are of legal age and that you have read and agreed to the site’s terms and conditions. This dialog box also presents the button through which you can sign up for an account.

Your detective skills need some work bro! ;)
It seems that anyone who wants to organize a potential exit scam type of company just needs to go there because their government officials just want money and do not care of ethical business practices.
It has been known as a haven for illegals to have their way there and continue to be with the incession of bitcoin casinos being the easier "scam job" organized crime of choice. ;)

Btw, your reputation thread is reopened for you if you have anymore to say to any one who disagrees with your "repthreadfor" which is obviously "reputation thread for".
Titles only allows a limited amount of characters as anybody can conclude what is being facilitated by this title except for you.  :P


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: game-protect on February 23, 2017, 01:59:22 PM
Where did you find this, exactly?

What others say about them is irrelevant. Juridical relevant is what nitrogensports state on their website and I was not able to find the operator there?

If they are "a hide" then why did I just find this which has been posted just yesterday about them?

electreum February 22, 2016   Reviews Leave a comment 1,477 Views

Claiming to be the largest and most trusted bitcoin sportsbook and casino, Nitrogen Sports is a Costa Rica based online gambling site created for serious players. Before you even get to see the homepage, you will be greeted by a dialog box that tries to make sure that you are of legal age and that you have read and agreed to the site’s terms and conditions. This dialog box also presents the button through which you can sign up for an account.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: arcanaaerobics on February 23, 2017, 02:11:15 PM
Where did you find this, exactly?

What others say about them is irrelevant. Juridical relevant is what nitrogensports state on their website and I was not able to find the operator there?

If they are "a hide" then why did I just find this which has been posted just yesterday about them?

electreum February 22, 2016   Reviews Leave a comment 1,477 Views

Claiming to be the largest and most trusted bitcoin sportsbook and casino, Nitrogen Sports is a Costa Rica based online gambling site created for serious players. Before you even get to see the homepage, you will be greeted by a dialog box that tries to make sure that you are of legal age and that you have read and agreed to the site’s terms and conditions. This dialog box also presents the button through which you can sign up for an account.
Wouldn't you just love to know bro ;)

I do not reveal my sources. ;D
You will just use it against those that reveal anything to you which would be and include all PM'S sent to you

You have shown to not be a reliable source of information or a person to be trusted with information anybody
has in their possession.

Continue chasing those ambulances there mate! :D

It must be just great living a DOG's LIFE! HAHAH! ;)


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: IPTVReseller on February 23, 2017, 02:14:47 PM
I don't give a crap about other sites, this is about Cloudbet.com there is MUCH proof by everyone, again why are they NOT TAGGED?


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: game-protect on February 23, 2017, 02:27:33 PM
I don't give a crap about other sites, this is about Cloudbet.com there is MUCH proof by everyone, again why are they NOT TAGGED?
Agree and moved this conversation to my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg17950409#msg17950409


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: billyhoss on February 24, 2017, 07:19:30 PM
Iptvreseller is complaining about this site scamming people yet he's scamming himself. watch out when dealing with him.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: arcanaaerobics on February 24, 2017, 07:55:48 PM
Iptvreseller is complaining about this site scamming people yet he's scamming himself. watch out when dealing with him.
I see what you mean now dude. ::)
What happened::  
sent money to buy credits for iptv

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=951602

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1776951.0

Amount Scammed:  3 BTC
Payment Method: Bitcoins

IPTVReseller is a scammer just to warn everyone before he gets anyone else. he uses these numbers for texting 438-792-5831 and 438-794-6965. message me for details before dealing with him. thanks
But Cloudbet are still a bunch of useless wankers of a false and fake support team. :P
They have reset everybodys password's due to the Cloudflare hack last night.

They are spamming everybodys email's inboxes with threads of closing accounts now. With stupid accusations of having multiple accounts. WTF is that man! Telling their customers "You better move all your balances to one account so to continue using their services!" You are accusing them of doing something after it's your own fault at security breaches of account information (Your client's personal information loss is s SERIOUS OFFENSE!) and so is all the other companies that relied on an outsourced system such as cloudflare! They should all be sued and fined and get their security directors/manager sacked the fuck out of their jobs for NOT DOING THEIR FUCKING JOBS CORRECTLY!
All in all./.
They are still doing an exit scam and just deflecting that attempt with this hack.
Their staff support are so full of shit man!


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: Shinpak0 on February 26, 2017, 12:51:29 PM
contacted cloudbet after they said closed my account for multiaccounts and they never got back to me. support never replies to emails and my deposit withdrawn
6 days now and no reply want my funds!

http://imgur.com/a/CZOB2


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: erpbridge on February 26, 2017, 05:53:52 PM
I think they are not tagged because whenever there is something serious or a DT trust member gets involved, they fix that particular problem and are let go. If all the people who got scammed create one massive thread with all the proofs, then I am sure someone would seriously look at it.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: wrxbuzz on February 27, 2017, 02:59:12 AM
I think they are not tagged because whenever there is something serious or a DT trust member gets involved, they fix that particular problem and are let go. If all the people who got scammed create one massive thread with all the proofs, then I am sure someone would seriously look at it.

I am not sure that Cloudbet has bribed the DT members? It could be a serious case if it is real. Maybe DT members make lots of money so keep ignoring the CB scam accusations?


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: Superhitech on February 27, 2017, 04:31:59 AM
I think they are not tagged because whenever there is something serious or a DT trust member gets involved, they fix that particular problem and are let go. If all the people who got scammed create one massive thread with all the proofs, then I am sure someone would seriously look at it.

I am not sure that Cloudbet has bribed the DT members? It could be a serious case if it is real. Maybe DT members make lots of money so keep ignoring the CB scam accusations?

There's no way Cloudbet has been able to successfully bribe all the members on default trust. I believe that the reason why they haven't been negative repped is because there hasn't been sufficient evidence provided to prove that cloudbet is a scam.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: MintCondition on February 27, 2017, 05:37:26 AM
I think they are not tagged because whenever there is something serious or a DT trust member gets involved, they fix that particular problem and are let go. If all the people who got scammed create one massive thread with all the proofs, then I am sure someone would seriously look at it.


They received already negative feedback from DT in previous month but they solved the issue before it is escalated, i think there is no major issue being reported right now because all account that filing an accusation is newbie and don't have solid proof. it is better to create a one thread for filing all the scam accusation so that the DT will notice and quickly analyze the situation and do the right judgement, Cloudbet is on the edge of being scam and many people already gave a warning for their site in the past.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: Cloudbet on February 27, 2017, 05:48:18 AM
Hi all!

I'm sorry that you've had a negative experience with Cloudbet. Could you please post details of your issue in this thread, and I will make sure that I personally investigate and resolve any problems.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552

Thanks in advance!

Leandro
Cloudbet


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: wrxbuzz on February 27, 2017, 07:03:36 AM
I think they are not tagged because whenever there is something serious or a DT trust member gets involved, they fix that particular problem and are let go. If all the people who got scammed create one massive thread with all the proofs, then I am sure someone would seriously look at it.

I am not sure that Cloudbet has bribed the DT members? It could be a serious case if it is real. Maybe DT members make lots of money so keep ignoring the CB scam accusations?

There's no way Cloudbet has been able to successfully bribe all the members on default trust. I believe that the reason why they haven't been negative repped is because there hasn't been sufficient evidence provided to prove that cloudbet is a scam.

I think it is no bribery either, but it is just my speculation, don't take it too serious. For sufficient evidence, there are many scam accusations, many have enough evidence, maybe DT members don't focus on the section any more?


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: Cloudbet on February 27, 2017, 07:15:07 AM
Hi all,

We always pay all of our players in full, every time, without exception, provided they have not committed fraud or breached our T&Cs.

We are also happy to have any issue arbitrated by AskGamblers or SBR, and are happy to be bound to their ruling.

Unfortunately most issues posted in these boards are from customers who have committed fraud or breached our T&Cs. Not saying that is true of this specific thread's OP, but in many other cases.

Leandro
Cloudbet


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: IPTVReseller on April 06, 2017, 11:54:34 PM
They are still scamming users and getting away with it bexause trusted members here are not leaving negatives..



Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: game-protect on April 08, 2017, 11:32:02 PM
They are still scamming users and getting away with it bexause trusted members here are not leaving negatives..


How many people look at the church of a site?


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 14, 2017, 05:01:08 AM
They are still scamming users and getting away with it bexause trusted members here are not leaving negatives..


That's the faulty, childish logic of a special-needs teenager.  Why are you whining on this board about some gambling site that scammed you?  We're not the police; we're random people on the internet who in general don't love you, don't even like you, and clean our own houses first.  People who gamble at shady bitcoin casinos take their own chances.  Be a man and suck it the fuck up.


Title: Re: Why is CloudBet not negative repped?
Post by: IPTVReseller on April 14, 2017, 01:46:02 PM
They are still scamming users and getting away with it bexause trusted members here are not leaving negatives..


That's the faulty, childish logic of a special-needs teenager.  Why are you whining on this board about some gambling site that scammed you?  We're not the police; we're random people on the internet who in general don't love you, don't even like you, and clean our own houses first.  People who gamble at shady bitcoin casinos take their own chances.  Be a man and suck it the fuck up.

How much did they pay you?