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Hello everyone,

I bought a BitPiece coin from Blazed (late January/early February). Funded: 0.25BTC, Graded: MS67
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1757577.0

I turns out that the coin never arrived and i assume that it has been lost/stolen in the postal system. If you came accross the coin, for instance if someone is selling it somewhere, please contact me immediately. Here is the specification of the coin.

First 7 characters of the public address displayed: 1Eym83S
http://pastebin.com/jirHCKri
https://blockchain.info/address/1Eym83SRUa3YbyADHrN1Dq38szKgC2xbBk

Thanks a lot in advance.

it sucks how many coins are stolen by postal services
and that is when they dont know much of bitcoin yet, maybe some do..

It's best to not mention anything related to bitcoin on package

Hope you find it

I don't think that the postal service workers are targeting these packages because they contain physical Bitcoins. Sometimes you can just feel that the item being sent is a coin and sometimes workers are tempted into thinking that they're rare and collectible coins that can be sold for a quick profit.
To be honest, I don't think they know what the coins are until they search for them online at which point they don't realise their mistake.
Given that the coins have public addresses and first keys it would make flipping them more difficult.
The best way to avoid this happening is by disguising what you're sending. For example, put coins in between card to prevent the coin shape protruding through the envelope. Alternatively, use thicker and padded packaging materials etc.  

that sounds good so keeping them hidden should do the trick
i thought it had something to do with bitcoin

You guys are freaking the fuck out of me. I have thousand of dollars in Bitcoin and collectibles that have been sitting static at the post with registered mail for a week. I guess it's good that it's insured, but I'm doubt that claim is going to go smooth.

It's most likely that the opened envelopes from the post office with "stolen" coins that we've been reading about lately were not opened by people, but were torn open by the automatic letter-feeding machines. Those standard business envelopes are pretty weak and not designed to hold anything more than a card or letter -- something flat and thin which would easily pass thru an automatic letter-feeding machine. Anything bulkier inside -- like a coin in an airtite capsule -- would cause problems for the automatic feeder, and the envelope would likely rip open upon the slightest snag. (Those letters whiz by rather quickly, so tearing wouldn't require much effort, just a quick snag and it's done for.)

The postal employees should know better, and they should advise the sender to use a larger, sturdier envelope, like the standard yellow, 7x4" Kraft bubble mailer. Regardless, the sender should know better and spend a few more cents on upgraded envelopes. You can buy them in large bulk on Amazon for pennies per envelope.

So you can probably relax and breathe easy. If your static packages at the PO are not standard business envelopes, then you're fine as wine. ;)

Regards,
Chris

Damn not another one! Definitely will never skip on insurance and tacking.

I think this is rule #1. I had it last week where a slab arrived broken because an envelope was used for a $500 coin in unregistered mail. I was lucky the coin arrived but please let us all use tracked+insured mail so this can never happen again. Too many examples already of people losing coins and broken items, and claiming anything at the postal company is horrible, and futile if it was sent non-insured.

It's wrapped like classified media would be. If some one were to steal it, they would have to leave the premisis and gnaw at it for about 15 minutes.

The coin has been sent as a tracking letter that is with a follow up service. The last event recorded was the sorting center on the 02/06...It is not Blazed fault, it is without doubt the Post Office fault. However, i don't know if the post office lost :( it or steal >:( it. I'll probably never know :'( :'( :'( :'(

In the 3.5 years of me using registered mail shipping, I have yet to lose a single package. The worst case I've had is the person didn't pick up the package after like 2-3 weeks and customs shipped it back to me and it eventually got back to me untampered.

To date, registered mail has been quite safe for me personally.

Which country is it going to? I once shipped a coin to Spain and it took about 3 weeks to make it's way through their customs. When you raise a report that the post is missing, they should in theory, go to where it was lost and do a proper search for it. Unfortunately they're more likely to just pay a claim and say they looked for it. I try to disguise the coins in a square piece of cardboard (with bubble wrap padding) and try to stop them from rattling. Lots of tape on weak spots like corners helps too, but make sure it is flat and no tape can snag in the machinery.

Hello Fortify,

I live in France. I already wrote two letters of complaint. One locally for the chief working at the sorting center, and the other for P. Wahl the CEO of La Poste in Paris. Here is the tracking #  LZ630940207US

Jeff.

I don't think so

Yes probably.

Many time, and also to surrounding PO.

In fact, they gave me a much more accurate tracking. It turns out that the coin disappear at the sorting center...

http://imgur.com/a/0BAie

For those who don't speak french, the last event says: delayed motive La Poste.
PDC1: Plateforme de distribution du courrier=sorting center.

Also Seclin is a town located 6 km away from me.

Thanks for your support.

Jeff

idk if you have craiglist and pawnshops in your area but it may be worth checking out just incase they try flipping it

the coin was funded, so it could easily be cracked open for the 0.25BTC without even selling the coin


I had a package containing an entire roll of casascius coins (directly from mike) cut opened by border postal agents, then taped shut again. At the time it was only worth ~$250

I will keep an eye out too on ebay etc

Of course, but up to now it is not the case. As someone already pointed out, i'm not sure the thief
is familiar with physical bitcoins. In my opinion he (she?) might have thought that the coin is made
of solid gold.

Thanks. Just wondering, does Ebay provide a feature based on keywords to be warned automatically?

We don't have craiglist, but instead, leboncoin:
https://www.leboncoin.fr/
That beeing said, even if i come across the coin, what can/should i do ???

Make an appointment and beat the crap out of him.

Inform authorities that you have spotted a stolen item of yours on the internet and that you have made an appointment with the seller and you would like them to cone with you.

 ;D ;D I don't know the behavior of the court abroad, but in France i would certainly go to jail. Indeed,
that's what happen when a robber get killed, even inside a private area like a private house at night.


I would do, but i doubt the police would be of any help. I'm not even sure i would be taken seriously. Moreover, the seller might not the thief, in case he (she?) already to sold it to a third party.

To me it is the Post Office and only the Post Office who is responsible for the loss. They have to compensate accordingly.

I have not seen that feature but I go there four times a week

-----Bump-----
I know that this topic is nearly 5 years old...
However, i still can't accept the loss...
I just check and it looks as if the coin has still not been redeemed.
It should be somewhere...but where???

either it has been lost/destroyed or is in a private collection.

5 years and the pain never subsides. Im sorry for your loss. So nothing ever came of this?

Id say the best news is that 5 years later and the coin hasnt been swiped. This forum and posts regarding this issue will serve as evidence and proof of ownership should you ever go to court. If and when it gets swiped it may be possible to track that address to an owner as long as their here in the US. Sorry this happened to you. Ill be watching for those first bits. Remember, a resolution solely depends on your perseverance to get to the truth. Keep up the good fight.

Given the value.... and yes chances are small...

Have you attempted to contact the shipping company again?

There have been cases of parcels being found after a few years.

Thank you, dear community, for your support

Exactly...
Thanks

Thanks for the advice. This reminds me that the carrier (La Poste
in France) sale by auction items that can't be attached to a sender
or a receiver, for instance when labels become detached in transit.
I'll contact them, who knows...

The only thing i know for sure is that the postwoman who used
to deliver the mail at that time got fired given the number of people
complaining for the loss of their mail...

That being said, i don't think she stole my coin on purpose. I was
thinking more of a neglect. They deliver with a bike and the sorting
sorter is several miles away...so might be into the ditch by the road...

This would be the most tragic of endings.

Am I missing something?
It was a high value coin, why wasn't this sent with DHL tracked next day delivery.
Always go for the most expensive delivery option when it comes to postage of high value items

Hi,

At that time 1BTC = 2.000 USD (approx), so it was already a high value coin, but nothing compared to the value of today.
That's what saddens me the most...

Just a reminder...in case...

I had a BTCC stolen W0052, 1NZeufbdEd2AQZKmD9P9FMaEDJrA9zdpyk. Just notify me. Thanks.

buddy that is a .1 BTC that sucks it was stolen.

Ya, that is huge bummer. And to think that OP's coin could be in a ditch out in the middle of Europe or something somewhere. I can only imagine the kid or person who comes across such a coin the curiosity of researching it and finding out that they may well have just come across a small fortune, or even worse they peel the sticker and lose the keys or something awful like that, oh man it is very unfortunate for OP. I hope this somehow turns up for you OP! Don't give up on your search and definitely check with those postal carriers regularly in case it does pop up, it could happen!

Thanks for your kind words:)
Yes, i still hope that one day the coin will reappear somewhere....I recently checked and it has not been redeemed, it is still fund...
It is also possible that a neighbor got it. Indeed, i had package from the member Hox that  i got back in the very last moment: i got an Email saying a package as been delivery to my letter box. I went down the stars (i live in a bulding),
open my letter box...and nothing!!! I immediately gave a ring to the sorting center and they said the mailman will visit me after he finished his tour. He opened every letter box of each resident and found my precious package in an other one!!!

I should have been upset against him but i was so happy to get my precious package that i thanked him...