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Title: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: dennis97519 on April 19, 2013, 09:19:12 AM
Like why must we have at least 5 posts and 4 hours on this forum... This is extremely stupid. I just want to see if there is already anyone translating that to CHinese, but this stupid newbie restriction make me can't reply to any posts. Most forums only implies a restriction of time intercept between new threads, and the number of posts you can make each day. Why does this forum have this stupid restriction???  :-\


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: MikeGg on April 19, 2013, 09:23:14 AM
This is still ok compared to other forums... it serves as a proof of work I guess...


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: dcl on April 19, 2013, 09:23:58 AM
I've been a member since 2011, although inactive. I find it weird I have to get the posts to be able to post normally :o


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 19, 2013, 09:24:34 AM
I've been a member since 2011, although inactive. I find it weird I have to get the posts to be able to post normally :o
You just need to lurk for a bit. Or get a auto refesher extension


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: b!z on April 19, 2013, 09:27:37 AM
I think the system is working fine actually.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Birdy on April 19, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
It also helps preventing scam, because it's a bit more difficult to enter the other areas.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Geddi on April 19, 2013, 09:39:50 AM
Why would you want to post if you find it difficult to post 5 times?  ???


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: iolo on April 19, 2013, 10:41:59 AM
absolutely agree, more activity does not imply quality.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: victor999 on April 19, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
So who judges the quality of a post?  Are there standards to be met?  Some of my posts as a newbie were found to be 'spam'...so what is spam?  I thought spam was unwarranted or unwanted advertisement.  I', simply trying to get enough posts to start exploring other areas.  But I am spamming...


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: DoIAtoR on April 19, 2013, 11:16:31 AM
no clue


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: jingos on April 19, 2013, 11:32:55 AM
I can see how the 4 hours could be annoying if you don't spend much time on the computer. I'm guessing the spam must have been pretty bad though to come to this.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: DoIAtoR on April 19, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
ya so is that


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: wdaniels on April 19, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
Why would you want to post if you find it difficult to post 5 times?  ???

Not difficult, just frustrating. A few times I've followed links here (to non-newbie sections), had something to say, but couldn't. So I move on elsewhere.

Finally decided to make an account and get these stupid posts out of the way.

One down.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Lucsus on April 19, 2013, 12:13:42 PM
I think it's nice this way. No one needs to actually spam to reach 5 posts...


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Raver32 on April 19, 2013, 12:23:43 PM
As a newb, I have no problem doing five posts to help prove I'm not a bot.

Now, if only I could convince my wife . . .


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: voluntaryistonly on April 19, 2013, 12:30:34 PM
of course it is, I just want to post to the correct sub-forum, but cannot I feel like post all sorts of spam  >:(


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: CIYAM on April 19, 2013, 12:34:14 PM
Luckily Bruno has created several topics like the "Let's count to 21 million" for newbies to get up their 5 posts in a more creative manner than just senseless spam (maybe some links in the introductory area might be helpful).


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: BarryB on April 19, 2013, 12:48:25 PM
It's not the 5 posts that bothers me, it's the 4 hours. I've been on here for over a week and have only logged 2 hours 22 minutes. As a marketing professional, I believe 4 hours not only cuts out spammers, but also cuts out many legitimate prospects who get too frustrated with the limits and decide to move on.

An hour, hour and a half.. sure, but four hours? That's going to take me weeks to get!


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: CIYAM on April 19, 2013, 01:20:51 PM
You need to keep clicking in order for the "time spent online" to be incremented - so whilst it can take a while even if you spend only an hour a day on the forum then provided that you are actively clicking on numerous topics (rather than just leaving the webpage sitting) it shouldn't even take a week to have accumulated the required time (am pretty sure it only took myself a day).


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: BarryB on April 19, 2013, 01:33:57 PM
You need to keep clicking in order for the "time spent online" to be incremented - so whilst it can take a while even if you spend only an hour a day on the forum then provided that you are actively clicking on numerous topics (rather than just leaving the webpage sitting) it shouldn't even take a week to have accumulated the required time (am pretty sure it only took myself a day).


I get what you're saying, but an hour a day just to be able to post to a forum? Not all of us have that kind of time to spend on a single website.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: CIYAM on April 19, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
I get what you're saying, but an hour a day just to be able to post to a forum? Not all of us have that kind of time to spend on a single website.

Before Bitcointalk the only "forum" I had ever posted on was a support one (which was VBulletin based from memory) back in the early 2000s - now I have well over a thousand posts and am developing an exciting Bitcoin project - if you had told me that I would be spending an hour or so per day (at least) reading and often posting on a forum back in 2010 I would have laughed at you.

I think Bitcoin and this forum quickly become more like an obsession than a hobby - I would recommend you take the red pill and join in the wildest ride since the internet became known to the masses!

;D


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Bitman12 on April 19, 2013, 02:07:08 PM
It's not the 5 posts that bothers me, it's the 4 hours. I've been on here for over a week and have only logged 2 hours 22 minutes. As a marketing professional, I believe 4 hours not only cuts out spammers, but also cuts out many legitimate prospects who get too frustrated with the limits and decide to move on.

An hour, hour and a half.. sure, but four hours? That's going to take me weeks to get!

Quote
Total time logged in: 13 hours and 6 minutes.
;D


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: enco on April 19, 2013, 04:23:53 PM
it serves as a proof of work I guess...
;D


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: clemage on April 19, 2013, 06:06:28 PM
I think it is promoting spam but only in the newbie section so it is OK for others.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: takagari on April 19, 2013, 06:12:55 PM
Works fine for me, No rush to post plus you should spend itme looking around and getting a feel for a forum before posting useless shit and rable. lol


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Kennji on April 19, 2013, 06:20:18 PM
Maybe .. but it proves you are a real person who is really interested in the community.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: wdaniels on April 19, 2013, 07:02:49 PM
No rush to post

Kind of an assumption, don't you think?

you should spend itme looking around and getting a feel for a forum

Lots of people read this board without ever having an account.
Or maybe you follow a link from twitter to a topic particularly relevant to you, you try to make a reply... oh.

posting useless shit and rable

I think that was the OPs point, you end up having to post useless shit and babble just to get onto the main board, which is not what everybody came here for.

Surely there's a better way?


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: jt7382 on April 19, 2013, 07:40:47 PM
Just how a lot of forums work. Kinda silly but I guess it doesn't really hurt anything.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Hiroaki on April 19, 2013, 07:43:47 PM
It s ok, as it only produces spam in the Newbies section....


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Tobi042 on April 19, 2013, 07:49:59 PM

I think Bitcoin and this forum quickly become more like an obsession than a hobby - I would recommend you take the red pill and join in the wildest ride since the internet became known to the masses!

;D


Seconded :D I read on this forum for several weeks now and for some weeks when Bitcoin started to become popular, and the whole topic is totally amazing :D


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: silicont on April 19, 2013, 07:53:27 PM
This is the first forum I've seen this must post here before elsewhere.  I don't mind, especially since this is such a volatile topic/technology.  But, it did take me 20 minutes to find out why I couldn't post elsewhere.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: 00400 on April 19, 2013, 08:12:31 PM
It's not the 5 posts that bothers me, it's the 4 hours. I've been on here for over a week and have only logged 2 hours 22 minutes. As a marketing professional, I believe 4 hours not only cuts out spammers, but also cuts out many legitimate prospects who get too frustrated with the limits and decide to move on.

An hour, hour and a half.. sure, but four hours? That's going to take me weeks to get!

Quote
Total time logged in: 13 hours and 6 minutes.
;D
You are looking in a wrong place. 13 hours is your total time.
BarryB is telling the truth. He has only 3 hours in more than a week.

Conclusion: 4 hours are too much. And 5 posts are useless spam. Wouldn't it be better if newbies could just solve some "captchas"?


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: GeneM on April 19, 2013, 08:13:27 PM
I agree (1 down, 1 to go)


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: slavix on April 19, 2013, 08:15:11 PM
Whatever.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Plornt on April 19, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
You need to keep clicking in order for the "time spent online" to be incremented - so whilst it can take a while even if you spend only an hour a day on the forum then provided that you are actively clicking on numerous topics (rather than just leaving the webpage sitting) it shouldn't even take a week to have accumulated the required time (am pretty sure it only took myself a day).


I get what you're saying, but an hour a day just to be able to post to a forum? Not all of us have that kind of time to spend on a single website.

This is the same way I feel. I actually am just less inclined to stay on the forum now because of this. I only wanted help in another thread and now I am basically forced to say random crap in different threads to get to the (admitantly easy) post requirement and have to stay around for 4 hours. I mean really, what the hell is there to do in a newbie forum. Im guessing the 4 hours is to get you to join in with the community but that sort of stuff should be after we are able to post.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: tuckertz1992 on April 19, 2013, 09:05:41 PM
I do think that the 5 post rule is normal for most forums. Its highly unlikley that people will spam, although you get the ones that do! :-\


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: cp1 on April 19, 2013, 09:08:55 PM
At least it keeps the spam to this forum, easier to monitor I guess.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: madamamialin on April 19, 2013, 09:12:18 PM
It is suppose to let us familiarize ourself with the forum and the rules. However, some people just see it as a barrier and keep making unmeaningful/spam post to increase their post count. Good thing is the moderator actually pick them up fast.


Title: replay
Post by: compota334 on April 19, 2013, 09:18:37 PM
is a very stupid sistem.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: Bitmonedo on April 19, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
Yes it is.


Title: Re: Isn't this newbie restriction promoting spams?
Post by: bittommie on April 21, 2013, 06:30:59 AM
It keeps the lurkers away i guess...