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Title: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: pereira4 on March 01, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
I was thinking about buying other coins to profit and make more BTC too as BTC grows, but I don't see a clear pick to risk my bitcoins at...

Maybe I should have bought ETH and DASH but what did I knew? Even this ZCASH crap pumped to like 30%, but how can you even foresee that?

I guess ETH is a good pick because ETH keeps getting shilled by microsoft and all those big companies but ultimately that means nothing...

I don't know what to do. I want more BTC, but I see no clear investments... fuuuck :((


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: cryptohunter on March 01, 2017, 04:12:06 PM
stick to btc then for now.

depends how many btc you have.

If you have 1000+ then you can easily risk 50 btc playing with good prospects.

If you have 100 btc then risk 5 BTC

Even with 20 BTC i would say risk at least 1 BTC playing with a few alts that have proven developers and a community around them. A few good outsiders can return nicely on 1BTC.

I like it more risky with 50 % btc now and 50% alts...

Even just months ago I was 80% alts. Too many scams out now though so have got back to btc and a bunch of reliable alts with a good dev.

Some alts look crazy undervalue whilst others look crazy over valued. I guess hours of reading and browsing on here gives you the chance to make the best guesses unless you're a serious developer/coder then you will know which ones offer the most for the money .

Having said all that - exchange manipulation, whale manipulation, hacks, etc all can not be accounted for easily so it's a minefield.

Getting on a x10 or x100 is obviously fun but those are few and far between.

I guess selling BTC before 10th march is not a good plan ... i expect many may have their fingers on the triggers awaiting the outcome of the etf ..
Be nice to know beforehand which way that will go. Or perhaps it won't make as huge a difference and we think.





Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: mining1 on March 01, 2017, 04:31:03 PM
Let me enlighten you. Buy ETH now, before metro is released, and if you're a trader then just sell it after. You'll easily make 5$ profit per ether. However, if you go for 1year+, you can easily double what you have. Because constant development, and then it'll be close to serenity and it's huge hype.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Jitmad on March 01, 2017, 05:01:13 PM
Let me enlighten you. Buy ETH now, before metro is released, and if you're a trader then just sell it after. You'll easily make 5$ profit per ether. However, if you go for 1year+, you can easily double what you have. Because constant development, and then it'll be close to serenity and it's huge hype.

It seems both the ETH and ZEC has reached bottom.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Ayers on March 01, 2017, 05:06:32 PM
stick to btc then for now.

depends how many btc you have.

If you have 1000+ then you can easily risk 50 btc playing with good prospects.

If you have 100 btc then risk 5 BTC

Even with 20 BTC i would say risk at least 1 BTC playing with a few alts that have proven developers and a community around them. A few good outsiders can return nicely on 1BTC.

I like it more risky with 50 % btc now and 50% alts...

Even just months ago I was 80% alts. Too many scams out now though so have got back to btc and a bunch of reliable alts with a good dev.

Some alts look crazy undervalue whilst others look crazy over valued. I guess hours of reading and browsing on here gives you the chance to make the best guesses unless you're a serious developer/coder then you will know which ones offer the most for the money .

Having said all that - exchange manipulation, whale manipulation, hacks, etc all can not be accounted for easily so it's a minefield.

Getting on a x10 or x100 is obviously fun but those are few and far between.

I guess selling BTC before 10th march is not a good plan ... i expect many may have their fingers on the triggers awaiting the outcome of the etf ..
Be nice to know beforehand which way that will go. Or perhaps it won't make as huge a difference and we think.





i like your suggestion but i would risk less, let's say 1% if you have 100 only 1 btc and so on, because for now altcoin are very risky with bitcoin that is so high and keep rising, the money are all there and few people are investing in bitcoin, and the chance to have them pumped high like few months ago are much more slim


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Hermanny on March 01, 2017, 05:13:05 PM
I was thinking about buying other coins to profit and make more BTC too as BTC grows, but I don't see a clear pick to risk my bitcoins at...

Maybe I should have bought ETH and DASH but what did I knew? Even this ZCASH crap pumped to like 30%, but how can you even foresee that?

I guess ETH is a good pick because ETH keeps getting shilled by microsoft and all those big companies but ultimately that means nothing...

I don't know what to do. I want more BTC, but I see no clear investments... fuuuck :((

With other coins you can make much better profit in short term than with BTC. However, BTC is the "gold".


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: iamnotback on March 01, 2017, 05:25:26 PM
The golden maxim is don't invest in what you don't understand well. If you don't know ETH as intimately as @mining1 does and don't feel the urge to be one his flock, then leave that on the table for others.

I prefer to invest in what I believe in. That which I think will be very important.

Bitcoin has that attribute, but Etherem et al are just shitcoins to me, because I am a developer and I understand the technology. @mining1 sees it from a different perspective than mine. He sees hype coming and a lot of fanboys who will wet their pants. He is probably correct, but I don't care. I invest in what I believe in and understand.

I don't think Monero is a shitcoin, but I haven't looked at the chart and sentiment lately so I can't give any recommendation on what price to buy it. I had advised to buy it right below it made its huge run up. But I am ambivalent at the moment (mostly for lack of time to think about it and also because our ecosystem is a cesspool so fundamental tech may not matter).


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: error08 on March 01, 2017, 05:39:58 PM
I was thinking about buying other coins to profit and make more BTC too as BTC grows, but I don't see a clear pick to risk my bitcoins at...

Maybe I should have bought ETH and DASH but what did I knew? Even this ZCASH crap pumped to like 30%, but how can you even foresee that?

I guess ETH is a good pick because ETH keeps getting shilled by microsoft and all those big companies but ultimately that means nothing...

I don't know what to do. I want more BTC, but I see no clear investments... fuuuck :((

Divide your investment is a good move, as we know not to put all eggs in one basket. yes, bitcoin still the best option we have, but some coins really has good potential and may take the second place after bitcoin, and other coins has significant increases within a week. Just observe the market and choose wisely which one, I prefer to buy ethereum, byteball and zcash but still learning about them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: iamnotback on March 01, 2017, 05:49:39 PM
And don't listen to people who are just learning and think the thing they bought yesterday is great or worthy of the hassle of you slicing up your focus.  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: eddie13 on March 01, 2017, 05:56:00 PM
If you are confident in BTC you can make more BTC buying a margin long position on it and not have to mess with alt coins at all..


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: agustina2 on March 01, 2017, 06:09:48 PM
I was thinking about buying other coins to profit and make more BTC too as BTC grows, but I don't see a clear pick to risk my bitcoins at...

Maybe I should have bought ETH and DASH but what did I knew? Even this ZCASH crap pumped to like 30%, but how can you even foresee that?

I guess ETH is a good pick because ETH keeps getting shilled by microsoft and all those big companies but ultimately that means nothing...

I don't know what to do. I want more BTC, but I see no clear investments... fuuuck :((

When the bitcoin price is increasing too much it's really a common thing to see that there's no action from other altcoins. That is the always happening everytime there is a situation like that.

Since we are in the risky investment of doing bitcoin and altcoin trades, why don't try to face the real risk by buying your mentioned coins since you think those are good picks. There is no people who can give an accurate answer here since all are unexpected. If you have spare amount and really confident that soon other alts will rise again, then give it a shot and see what will happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: iamnotback on March 01, 2017, 06:13:24 PM
When the bitcoin price is increasing too much it's really a common thing to see that there's no action from other altcoins. That is the always happening everytime there is a situation like that.

Since we are in the risky investment of doing bitcoin and altcoin trades, why don't try to face the real risk by buying your mentioned coins since you think those are good picks. There is no people who can give an accurate answer here since all are unexpected. If you have spare amount and really confident that soon other alts will rise again, then give it a shot and see what will happen.

So in other words we should gamble with our lunch money correct?

Better than some dead coin like litecoin.

"Better"? In what way is Dash better?

Oh you mean a better way to lose your lunch money speculating on price moves instead of investing in actual benefits for society?


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Fredomago on March 01, 2017, 06:50:28 PM
I was thinking about buying other coins to profit and make more BTC too as BTC grows, but I don't see a clear pick to risk my bitcoins at...

Maybe I should have bought ETH and DASH but what did I knew? Even this ZCASH crap pumped to like 30%, but how can you even foresee that?

I guess ETH is a good pick because ETH keeps getting shilled by microsoft and all those big companies but ultimately that means nothing...

I don't know what to do. I want more BTC, but I see no clear investments... fuuuck :((

With other coins you can make much better profit in short term than with BTC. However, BTC is the "gold".
yes indeed, with a great timing and proper information those alts can really give you a lots of money but in terms of stability
bitcoin is consider as the gold inside crypto, as it has its basis and all alts vary with its current value, bitcoin already show
how profitable crypto can bring not only with it but with alt as well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: NUFCrichard on March 01, 2017, 08:41:52 PM
stick to btc then for now.

depends how many btc you have.

If you have 1000+ then you can easily risk 50 btc playing with good prospects.

If you have 100 btc then risk 5 BTC

Even with 20 BTC i would say risk at least 1 BTC playing with a few alts that have proven developers and a community around them. A few good outsiders can return nicely on 1BTC.

I like it more risky with 50 % btc now and 50% alts...

Even just months ago I was 80% alts. Too many scams out now though so have got back to btc and a bunch of reliable alts with a good dev.

Some alts look crazy undervalue whilst others look crazy over valued. I guess hours of reading and browsing on here gives you the chance to make the best guesses unless you're a serious developer/coder then you will know which ones offer the most for the money .

Having said all that - exchange manipulation, whale manipulation, hacks, etc all can not be accounted for easily so it's a minefield.

Getting on a x10 or x100 is obviously fun but those are few and far between.

I guess selling BTC before 10th march is not a good plan ... i expect many may have their fingers on the triggers awaiting the outcome of the etf ..
Be nice to know beforehand which way that will go. Or perhaps it won't make as huge a difference and we think.


I like that you are talking to the masses, if you have 1000 Bitcoins - $1.2million worth!
A shorter version would also be - invest 5% of your bitcoin in alts.

I think that when Bitcoin's price is generally rising, then hold bitcoin. When the price levels out or drops, then invest in the alts of choice at the time, now Monero, Dash, ETH or alike.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 02, 2017, 06:51:57 AM
when in doubt, just invest your money in bitcoin and keep it long term. the chances of losing money with buying bitcoin is so small they are practically non-existent.

all the altcoins you see are good for investment but only short term and preferably before the pump so that you can dump it hard on the top and take the profit and run like hell :)
the key is figuring out when the pump is going to come.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Spoetnik on March 02, 2017, 07:28:04 AM
What about Litecoin ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: topesis on March 02, 2017, 09:43:34 AM
Yes, because of the past performance, it has reached $1000 went to below $1000 and make a come back, most of these ALtcoins can't be said to have this type of movement. Bitcoin now is a global currency unlike more of the tech ideas that has no real world use


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: talkbitcoin on March 02, 2017, 10:04:31 AM
you are saying Dash and ETH as if they are the only two altcoins that had gone up in the past week!
everyday in altcoin market there is a new coin that is being pumped. the only difference is that those altcoins are being pumped and one or two person only talk about them and volume is less than 100BTC but with those two the volume is bigger and shills are also more and bagholders are also more so they are seen more!!!

if you want profit you can invest in anything and make profit and then go back to bitcoin with a larger wallet.

What about Litecoin ?

Litecoin is still under the radar for the time being. and it will get pumped to the moon at some point.

my expectation is mostly when SegWit is activated on it or when Chinese exchanges open again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: ekoice on March 02, 2017, 10:13:41 AM
You can gain more BTC by investing in Altcoins. But you should be able to find the most under valued coin to invest.Now Bitcoin rally is going. So just be patient and once bitcoin price becomes stable, invest in an Altcoin which you found as best.But, better know the trading tactics before investing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: dihari on March 02, 2017, 11:12:56 AM
For investment principal, I always choose types of investment that I know well. It same like choose what coin you want to buy to grow profit on the rise up price. Bitcoin is known as the best cryptocurrency ever and there is nothing altcoins can replace it place until now. Maybe some altcoins like etherum or dash looks good on the market, but it's all about money. You choose what you think can bring you the profit. And you take your own risk.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Ayers on March 02, 2017, 11:14:19 AM
What about Litecoin ?

litecoin is doomed to fail, now the new litecoin is dashcoin, look how strong is the marketcap is very high and the value is near 0.04 for 1 dash, this is better than etheruem ever was, dash also offer far better features than litecoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: hasiramasenju on March 02, 2017, 11:59:02 AM
i think because those coins still cannot beat bitcoin that's why most people still stick at bitcoin but probably investing small amount for ETH or Monero still good but for Zcash honestly i have no idea what would happens to this coin and quite doubt there will be huge pump happened again


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: kelsey on March 02, 2017, 12:04:51 PM
What about Litecoin ?

litecoin is bitcoin without the premine  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: cramcram21 on March 02, 2017, 12:09:47 PM
Well for me bitcoin would always be the best,
Maybe because I don't even want to hold other crypto thats why I don't want to get some of the other coin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: mining1 on March 02, 2017, 02:08:38 PM
@mining1 sees it from a different perspective than mine. He sees hype coming and a lot of fanboys who will wet their pants. He is probably correct, but I don't care.
Ethereum's "hype" is working hand in hand with development, partnerships, projects, and the fact it is for a while now the leading project in the blockchain / cryptocurrency scene. It is not the same type of hype that bitcoin and all other projects are experiencing and you know it. It is based in facts, tangible projects and real people from real companies investing and building on this technology. And you know it, wether you like it or not.
Now, there's a chance they won't achieve everything ( developers, community, etc ) they aim for, but that wouldn't come as a big surprise, since they're doing something that wasn't done before.
Bottom line is, ethereum project and everything it involves dapps/contracts/projects/partnerships/development community and a whole huge fucking ecosystem, is moving forward at a very fast pace. And you want it to die because you cannot rival it, and you know it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 02, 2017, 04:29:00 PM
Bitcoin will remain the best choice of investment because other crypto devs have no plans of going mainstream or simply don't understand what they are doing . But this shouldn't stop you from investing in other coins which show potential of future growth and a possibility of profiting from them as an investor. When an opportunity presents itself ,you take it. Most of us missed it with bitcoins can't miss the next alt to boom.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: sevendust777 on March 02, 2017, 04:30:02 PM
Bitcoin still the best for me as we could observed its continuos rising its price. This means bitcoin is growing daily, and being in demand. Its still the best even from other altcoins that no one could replace bitcoin from...


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: Arvydas77 on March 02, 2017, 05:14:44 PM
Bitcoin still the best for me as we could observed its continuos rising its price. This means bitcoin is growing daily, and being in demand. Its still the best even from other altcoins that no one could replace bitcoin from...

I see nothing worth in Bitcoin except speculation. Tx fees are high and constantly growing. BTC is slow and not anonymous. Only speculating and hype drives the price up. Remember my words you'll see it dropping with strength this year. As for long time I have some confidence with Monero though it is not an advice to invest.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: iamnotback on March 02, 2017, 10:38:59 PM
I see nothing worth in Bitcoin except speculation.

Bitcoin is the most liquid hub or reserve currency of all the experimentation required to bring blockchains out of the Pong and Pacman era to where they are headed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: iamnotback on March 02, 2017, 10:41:58 PM
@mining1 sees it from a different perspective than mine. He sees hype coming and a lot of fanboys who will wet their pants. He is probably correct, but I don't care.

Ethereum's "hype" is working hand in hand with development, partnerships, projects, and the fact it is for a while now the leading project in the blockchain / cryptocurrency scene. It is not the same type of hype that bitcoin and all other projects are experiencing and you know it. It is based in facts, tangible projects and real people from real companies investing and building on this technology. And you know it, wether you like it or not.

Now, there's a chance they won't achieve everything ( developers, community, etc ) they aim for, but that wouldn't come as a big surprise, since they're doing something that wasn't done before.
Bottom line is, ethereum project and everything it involves dapps/contracts/projects/partnerships/development community and a whole huge fucking ecosystem, is moving forward at a very fast pace. And you want it to die because you cannot rival it, and you know it.

Neither of us can know for sure, but IMO speculators and thus the community of developments the speculators are incentivizing are in a FOMO delusion which will die:

Regarding ICOs, one of the aims of my project that is different from Ethereum is that via the distribution model, I intend (i.e. hope to) provide a way for the derivative "smart contract" (or apps) projects to monetize their business model without creating a useless token and ICO lie. I am attempting to change the entire paradigm to not only a legal but also a viable one. @Skalpell although you make reasonable arguments in some respects, you seem to have a blindspot on the fact that these ICO tokens are completely unrealistic in that the world won't be using 100s of colored coins with a separate coin for each "smart contract" or app. The world will rally around one or at most a few leading units-of-exchange and units-of-account. The ICO model is not viable long-term. It is a FOMO delusion that works for now because speculators haven't yet learned that 100s of tokens isn't going to work.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: fortunecrypto on March 02, 2017, 11:00:22 PM
It still is and will always be,bitcoin should be your main portfolio and if you are going to include other coin,it should be something that will give a return of your investment,like a profit or products or services,just like the victoriouscoin are doing


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: mining1 on March 02, 2017, 11:38:19 PM
@iamnotback but you do realise that, compared to all other projects out there ( except bitcoin since it was first ) ethereum is really undervalued, that if you take under consideration the whole ecosystem it has build around it. I mean, if clones like dash can have 1/4 of ethereum's cap it's really sad.
Also, leaving aside everything that makes ethereum what it is today, it also brought blockchain developing as a job into the mainstream. And to take this even further, probably half of the blockchain developers are directly or indirectly working on some variant of ethereum. You for example.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: jpoker272727 on March 02, 2017, 11:40:18 PM
Well for me bitcoin would always be the best,
Maybe because I don't even want to hold other crypto thats why I don't want to get some of the other coin.


Bitcoin performance is the best at the moment, I just checked the bitcoin price for the pas 30 days and it's amazing how well the price has been increased.

I hold few other assets like Iconomi and Incent but saying the truth I missed the "gold" days to sell iconomi at a food exchange rate in bitcoin and stay good, not like in stress when to sell or hold for undefined time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: iamnotback on March 02, 2017, 11:41:00 PM
@iamnotback but you do realise that, compared to all other projects out there ( except bitcoin since it was first ) ethereum is really undervalued, that if you take under consideration the whole ecosystem it has build around it. I mean, if clones like dash can have 1/4 of ethereum's cap it's really sad.
Also, leaving aside everything that makes ethereum what it is today, it also brought blockchain developing as a job into the mainstream.

I agree unless someone demonstrates that both Dash and Ethereum are not truly viable for adoption and another way is. Then you can see both of them implode, if they can't adopt that other paradigm quickly enough.

That is a lot of "ifs". For the near-term, I agree with you that the likely outcome is more interest piled into these (what I think are "mine the speculator") paradigms.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: isoneguy on March 02, 2017, 11:41:51 PM
bitcoin is the strongest...even if it's ever replaced it will still serve as a form of measurement.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: densuj on March 03, 2017, 04:28:28 AM
I was thinking about buying other coins to profit and make more BTC too as BTC grows, but I don't see a clear pick to risk my bitcoins at...

Maybe I should have bought ETH and DASH but what did I knew? Even this ZCASH crap pumped to like 30%, but how can you even foresee that?

I guess ETH is a good pick because ETH keeps getting shilled by microsoft and all those big companies but ultimately that means nothing...

I don't know what to do. I want more BTC, but I see no clear investments... fuuuck :((
Well everything depend on your strategy investments and depend on your analysis into digital coins,
which are the coins will be choosen? However investing into bitcoin, ETH, dash coin or other coins
are high risk except getting profit it can make losing money too, so make sure losing money in
digital coins has been calculated before make investments into them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: iamnotback on March 03, 2017, 06:02:49 AM
Lower highs, lower lows, and a trend downwards for Bitcoin's dominance:

http://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#btc-percentage


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: kryptqnick on March 03, 2017, 07:33:01 AM
Let me enlighten you. Buy ETH now, before metro is released, and if you're a trader then just sell it after. You'll easily make 5$ profit per ether. However, if you go for 1year+, you can easily double what you have. Because constant development, and then it'll be close to serenity and it's huge hype.

It seems both the ETH and ZEC has reached bottom.
What do you mean by 'reached the bottom'? Is it that they're now in the worst condition and will cost a lot more? Or are they dead now? I don't know about ZEC but ETH looks promising to me. And look at the price. It is growing every day for about 8%! I bought 1 eth for $17 a couple of days ago and it is already worth $20. Everything looks nice and stable with eth to me. And when it reaches about $100 I'll sell some amount to get my $17 back and thus see the pure profit growing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: sunsilk on March 03, 2017, 07:37:22 AM
If you are confused then you don't have to decide or pick some alts. Go and stand still with bitcoin it will be always the worth coin to pick.

And as the price seemingly pumping, just go with the flow and if you can avail to sell some of your coins before ETF approval and buy at lower price.

Then you can make your coins grow.



Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: xuan87 on March 03, 2017, 12:11:32 PM
there is always a risk if you want to earn profit, whether it is from trading or investing in alt coin, eth and dash may seems the best choice for now, because both of them showing a promises rising, but alt coin is very hard to predict, saving bitcoin is the best way to invest for now, but if like to play with risk then go for ETH and Dash


Title: Re: Bitcoin seems to be still the best pick
Post by: agustina2 on March 03, 2017, 08:31:28 PM
there is always a risk if you want to earn profit, whether it is from trading or investing in alt coin, eth and dash may seems the best choice for now, because both of them showing a promises rising, but alt coin is very hard to predict, saving bitcoin is the best way to invest for now, but if like to play with risk then go for ETH and Dash

Exactly, almost investment has risk more especially when dealing in an altcoin trades.

There are people who are asking for a must thing to do in terms of choosing an alts. They want an accurate answer and forgetting that price is unpredictable whether for bitcoin and altcoin. That's why they have to play wth the price themselves and just take suggestions from the community but not to the point that they will seek for what's the best thing to do. If they are afraid to face the risk then don't do investing in any alts and just hold bitcoin to make them ease their thinkings.