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Selling three 1 ounce Perth mint gold bars for bitcoin. It behooves me to exchange at a slightly lower cost because I would have to wire the money to Bitstamp for a total fee of $52.50 plus USD to BTC fee. Might as well just pay an escrow and shipping which will ultimately save me money, time, and hassle.

Selling for spot price, as the premium on these are typically 2-3%.

When I get home later I will happily post my proof of purchase and the other 2 serial numbers. I just wanted to get the post up and hopefully some interest. I will, however, scratch out my name from the receipt as I'm not one to post my name on a public forum for the world to see.

I will pay for escrow and shipping.

http://imgur.com/BOwQPO5
http://imgur.com/9z4PVXh

Where do you ship from?

They look awesome with all the Kangaroos, now that BTC is worth more than Gold I wonder how many will move away from the metal and switch over?  ;D

I am almost certain that these would not pass the scratch test.

New york

And I am 100% certain that you are certainly wrong. Please don't spread nonsense.

There are tons of these fakes on the internet, if these are real and you are just seeking spot price you can go almost anywhere and get near if not spot price for them

Would you be willing to use escrow.   Escrow would be released upon verification using a precious metals verifier. 

You clearly didn't read my post. Before trying to figure out how this is a scam, please learn to read. If I wanted straight cash I would go to a coin store or dealer. If I want to maximize my bitcoin I would post on Craigslist (which I did) and a bitcoin forum for hopefully a local meetup or escrow ship

I have plenty more gold and silver. I am actually getting rid of my foreign coins and bars in exchange for more bitcoin. But I will always keep some gold and silver bullion as well as my copper pennies. Nobody is getting near my American eagles  ;D

PM sent I am also in NY and can meet up with you to verify purity. Thanks!

Well let's not jump to conclusions just yet please.
I sent the OP a PM and am willing to meet up locally as stated to purchase possible items we decide on once I get a reply.

I also stated I can verify the purity and validity of any of the gold or silver items that may be for sale as well.
So let's wait for a reply, and take it from there.

Thanks!

I'll offer fee-free escrow.

I'm trying to establish trust in this forum. I've used escrow for my own purchases. I'm familiar with the process and can open a dedicated wallet for your transaction and keep all progress transparent.

PM me!

He wont.

lol

I would recommend that you start out with smaller deals to get established. Jumping right into a $1,000+ deal takes some trust...you need to earn that first.

To be honest this was exactly my reaction lol. You can't just waltz into a thread and try to escrow a deal that could be worth over $3000, when you're a Sr. Member with no valuable trust...that's not exactly how these things work.
To the OP, good luck on selling, but do you have certificates of authenticity?

Agreed coin, it will be interesting to see if others decide to move away from metals to digital currency.

I was considering selling a gold eagle...  It's a scary thought, because when parity was reached I thought I'd be buying gold, not wanting to sell it.  I hope that we aren't seeing irrational exuberance given the current state of the network.

I may meet up with the OP to verify all of the above, it seems a lot of people jump right in and assume the worst which is the norm these days with all of the previous scam attempts that have happened here.

Hopefully we can put this to rest, and if the seller is legit, then hes legit.
done.

I have sent him a PM and will hopefully make a purchase.

If anyone wants to buy something after its confirmed id be happy to reship and you can use escrow with a trusted one of the usual suspects :)

I dont need to make any money from this, its a service.

thanks!

I cant even get people to send first to me with $100 trades lol

Unfortunately with your post history that should be expected.

If you're unsure why I state that, feel free to shoot me a PM as this thread shouldn't be cluttered with explanation of your post history.

Apparently nothing on this forum is private and everyone needs to know everyone eles's business, so I will update by saying I will be meeting with buckrogers either tomorrow (sunday, march 5) or monday (march 6) and he will validate the bars are indeed real with some fancy equipment he has. If he doesn't buy them I will ask him to post a vouch for me that they are real.

Since you all know about my business dealings now, I might as well update you in saying I had a delicious bacon egg and cheese sandwich this morning on my way home from work (I work overnight) and a small iced-coffee with just milk-trying to cut down on sugar. I took a quick shower and fell asleep for a couple hours only to be awoken by my macaw screaming. I am now very cranky and waiting for my barcelona to destroy celta vigo in a couple hours.

I will update you all on my next bowel movement. I am sure you are all concerned.

Sounds like you went through a McDonalds?  Was it on a biscuit?  Did it come with hash browns also?

No it was a local deli close to my house. If I had a McDonald's breakfast I would already have had projectile, exploding diarrhea

pics on the BM or it didn't happen :) lol

The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.

I miss egg sandwiches from NY deli's so so much....

and pizza, and bagels!

I dont see why we had to know your personal thoughts on that, wouldnt that be more better in a PM

I am quickly learning there is no privacy or trust in this forum and that most of the members are cranky. Every private conversation I have had has been reposted in the associated thread anyway. Plus, New York food deli food, pizza, and bagels are something that must be spread throughout the world. And for you non- New Yorkers, pizza hut and dominos is as much real pizza as taco bell is real mexican food

I will hopefully still get together with buckrogers tomorrow (sunday, march 5) to verify those bars.

So im not sure why, and i've mentioned this before why people think the scratch test means anything? or that you need to remove a piece of precious metal from an air tite or a case to verify its resistance and other methods?

Actually the acid test is probably the worst way to test as you are only scratching the surface...so what of you have a nice gold bar that is PLATED? and the inside is filled with tungsten? your "scratch test' would telll you it is real, but its a fake.

thanks!

There aren't many ways to test gold for purity, but by not being allowed to inspect it outside of it's packaging that high premium bars have, the ways in which you can test are greatly reduced.

The weight test is a good test which you cannot do if you have to weigh the packaging along with it (for the most part).

thanks!
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The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.
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So im not sure why, and i've mentioned this before why people think the scratch test means anything? or that you need to remove a piece of precious metal from an air tite or a case to verify its resistance and other methods?

Actually the acid test is probably the worst way to test as you are only scratching the surface...so what of you have a nice gold bar that is PLATED? and the inside is filled with tungsten? your "scratch test' would telll you it is real, but its a fake.

thanks!
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There aren't many ways to test gold for purity, but by not being allowed to inspect it outside of it's packaging that high premium bars have, the ways in which you can test are greatly reduced.

The weight test is a good test which you cannot do if you have to weigh the packaging along with it.
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I would imagine you can find the total weight for both the bar and package in the sealed bars and coins. For instance, an NGC slab that holds an american eagle is 40 grams. In terms of the multiple tests, I am pretty much clueless. I would imagine there is some type of electronic scanner that can measure density and purity.

The problem that I find with high premium bars that come sealed such as perth mint and pamp suisse is that they can be easily faked. No one wants to lose the premium by opening up the packaging, which means no one is able to do a scratch test which gives away fakes easily. That's why I don't hold any high premium gold/silver.
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So im not sure why, and i've mentioned this before why people think the scratch test means anything? or that you need to remove a piece of precious metal from an air tite or a case to verify its resistance and other methods?

Actually the acid test is probably the worst way to test as you are only scratching the surface...so what of you have a nice gold bar that is PLATED? and the inside is filled with tungsten? your "scratch test' would telll you it is real, but its a fake.

thanks!
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There aren't many ways to test gold for purity, but by not being allowed to inspect it outside of it's packaging that high premium bars have, the ways in which you can test are greatly reduced.

The weight test is a good test which you cannot do if you have to weigh the packaging along with it.
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I would imagine you can find the total weight for both the bar and package in the sealed bars and coins. For instance, an NGC slab that holds an american eagle is 40 grams. In terms of the multiple tests, I am pretty much clueless. I would imagine there is some type of electronic scanner that can measure density and purity.

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There are many tests you can perform without touching the actual metal :)

Through a slab, etc. If you aren't aware, GIYF :)

But hopefully I will be able to meet up with the OP to see, although OP, you haven't replied to my last few messages??? so who knows.

Thanks!

You can XRF test gold bars through the certicard, no need to remove the packaging to establish authenticity.

Well i contacted the seller/OP late last night and it's about 10:15 am here, and suggested a time and place to meet, I have not gotten a reply back yet. and I suggested to meet around noon today in less than 2 hours from now.

If I dont get any sort of reply, within the hour, I will simply mark this off as a no show and move on with my day.

You can deal at your own risk.

Thanks!

"Local deli close to my house" explains it. The best move at McDonald's is the sausage egg and cheese sandwich!


And pizza bagels! Those are the best of both worlds.

It's hard to get a good bagel where I'm at...and a chicken finger sub.

OK,

So it's been an hour and I am not going to hear back from this newbie or I would have already.

I will NOT be meeting him today or any other day for that matter, as I dont have time for games.

It is apparent to me that he had plenty of time and opportunity to view my messages and reply with at least some lame excuse why he can't make the meeting in less than 1 hour from now.

It seems he only replies when I post in the main thread as well.

I am moving on with my day.

So good luck with anyone wanting to buy from this person.

I will not be verifying any of these items, so buyer beware, and factor in your own risk.

I am washing my hands from this, and was simply doing this as as service for the community.

thanks!

Yeah, you never did post this either. Also, don't get so wound up by people asking questions if you're going to post in the trading forum.. especially if you're selling expensive gold bars that have plenty of counterfeits in circulation.

More important, is it a Hyacinth Macaw?

(Those things are *loud* and can mimic human speech perfectly. Creepy as heck. :-)

sounds very goldFISHY to me :)

Gold bars were sold to a local from craigslist. We met at a local coinstore in Lynbrook and he paid me in bitcoin :D Thanks for consideration all I'll close this thread out

ok lol suuuuure, looking back at your previous posts as others should as well , I HIGHLY doubt anything you say here on this forum has any truth to it.

Not trustworthy in my book at all, to set up a meeting then conveniently sell them the same day as our meeting, with no cancellation notice or otherwise, which avoided any actual verification from a trusted member....lol

I actually told the OP I would test them for free for him, and might not even purchase any gold, but would actually buy some of the silver on the spot he was boasting about.

So this is not a butthurt situation by any means, as I clearly told him I may not be buying the bars when we meet but might have some others who are interested, and would pay in BTC, if it was verified to be real.

It goes to show you how some "people" get weeded out simply by offering some free "testing" lol

some examples:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1813873.new#new

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1808284.msg18043926#msg18043926

yea good luck selling anything else here :)

I would advise other members to research this user's previous posts which contain looking to purchase a sr members account and other "things"

thanks!

Go to coin galleries of oyster bay in lynbrook on sunrise highway. Ask an employee if he oversaw 2 men, one in his 20s and one in his 40s, make a cashless deal. He'll remember because the guy had no idea what bitcoin was and was totally confused. Don't spread FUD because you are butthurt you couldn't "verify" my gold.

It is more the fact that you agreed to meet up then bailed. Which looks shady.

If you dont wanna go to the store or call them and ask then you dont have any business calling me shady,

Exactly,

If you were legit you would have been smart to use my free service to vet you, instead you went a shady route, bailed on the meetup,  and made some claim of dudes doing cashless transactions lol

Man you are gonna have to learn the hard way that trust isn't an easy thing to earn here, and I think you just lost whatever you may have had if any.

But looking back at your previous posts on buying other accounts and ebay whatevers lol , its pretty self explanatory.

oh and "Don't spread FUD because you are butthurt you couldn't "verify" my gold."  That was a favor for you, although you may be too shady and scammy to see that , and for the community to weed out scammers such as yourself.

have a good day :)

why don't you post the transactions TX and anybody can look up the date and hour of this actual (supposed?) deal?

I was waiting for someone to suggest that :)

Selling fakes with escrow wouldn't work unless the buyer is retarded and tells escrow to release and doesn't take them in to verify their legitimacy.

this guy was called out a long time ago.

obvious scammer.

sorry I didn't want to dig up an old thread, I was just going through the forum looking for gold sellers and stumbled across this. Yeah after reading he's a ripper, I was just sayin' in general.

Yes, he stopped posting after he was called out and did not log in for a couple of weeks now

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=960706;sa=showPosts

He probably ditched the account and created a new one, a fresh start to try scamming again under a different identity