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Title: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: 95do on March 03, 2017, 05:07:19 PM
hello there are so many gtx 1070 do they all provide same hashrate?


This is $70 cheaper than the FTW version

$509 -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 08G-P4-5173-KR, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)


$579 - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 08G-P4-6276-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 10CM FAN,


Thank you :)




Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: Amph on March 03, 2017, 05:14:30 PM
palit superjetstream is the best, run on average higher while maintaining he same consumption

the cooler and the noise is also great


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: 95do on March 03, 2017, 05:19:06 PM
palit superjetstream is the best, run on average higher while maintaining he same consumption

the cooler and the noise is also great

it seems this is sold in europe?

I only have access to evga,msi,gigabyte

thanks you


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: reb0rn21 on March 03, 2017, 05:26:19 PM
Gainward Phoenix is same card as Palit gamerock/stream..

if you see one get it over those


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: m1n1ngP4d4w4n on March 03, 2017, 05:35:48 PM
Well i have FTW cards, but i paid a very nice price for them, i think that the SC should be plenty, even if you have a little bit more default clocks on the FTW, i suppose they should have both the same OC capabilities, that said, since they're OC'ed already from default, the FTW may have a better OC stability at higher clock, because only their best cards are FTW ones. I don't have any experiences using SC, but im pretty sure as ROI goes, it's not work getting the FTW for 70$ more.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: PovertyByte on March 03, 2017, 11:12:04 PM
The advantage on the FTW cards is the 10 phase power design but it turns out that is just 2 sets of 5 on a doubler and does not function any better than a 5 phase. Just means more heat spreading on the power phases really and the card appearance is all the FTW is good for.

If I knew about the power phase thing I would not have gotten the FTW.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: JaredKaragen on March 04, 2017, 02:41:14 AM
The power phase thing is more for stability and reliability.

I pay extra for EVGA cards because they do good hardware.

I presently run a few 1070 few dt 8gb cards and they really are stable on many Lagos.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: PovertyByte on March 04, 2017, 02:51:04 AM
The power phase thing is more for stability and reliability.

I pay extra for EVGA cards because they do good hardware.

I presently run a few 1070 few dt 8gb cards and they really are stable on many Lagos.

What I am saying is the 10 power phase design does not provide any additional stability or reliability than 5 does



Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: JaredKaragen on March 04, 2017, 03:29:34 AM
You must be deaf to coil whine then.......


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: QuintLeo on March 04, 2017, 05:02:03 AM
I've never had coil whine out of an EVGA card - but my sample size is fairly small and all pretty recent.

 On the other hand, it would have to be pretty loud for me to hear it over the FAN noise in my mining areas.



Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: JaredKaragen on March 04, 2017, 11:39:01 PM
I've never had coil whine out of an EVGA card - but my sample size is fairly small and all pretty recent.

 On the other hand, it would have to be pretty loud for me to hear it over the FAN noise in my mining areas.



Its a funny thing.  Some people hear it, some people don't.

I have yet to have a failure with any EVGA card I've worked with.

The build quality is stout, the coolers are VERY efficient and well made (not flimsy like ASUS), and I haven't seen any dead fans on em either (yet).  When I compare the quality of several generations of my GTX cards to other makes; they are just better in many respects.  EVGA cards also usually keep a higher resale value.

After the mess I had to deal with when using r9-280x cards from XFX;  I will NEVER buy ANY of their products ever again.   These cards never mined either.  They were in rigs that did A/V work for a lighting/audio company I work for (concerts, business events, clubs, etc etc etc).  We did a LOT of professional video mapping.

I remember what MSI and Gigabyte were before they are what they are today, so I am still weary about buying their products.  They had an excessively high failure rates on their motherboards for many years.  I know;  because I worked for the company that processed/recycled all of their "crush" items (returns, warranties, mis-shipments, overstock, discontinued items, etc).  Although it seems they have gotten their act together.  So I always consider them based on others' reviews.

After buying my ASUS GTX980;  Ill never buy their cards;  the cooler is a joke.  It works... but, its not "securely" attached to most models.  Ive had to re-paste mine twice because I bumped the cooler enough and it rose it off the die;  and temps were 5-10*c hotter after.   Just 4 spring loaded screws holding ALL that weight.  Insane.

And the new manufacturers.... Well;  I have seen the engineering that goes into a LOT of the cheaply made electronics nowadays (things like the reviews from bigclivedotcom for a start)...   and I am weary about complex electronic products for that reason considering most can't even make their own proper LED driver or power supply for their products.

Enough of the long winded blabbering;  But hopefully it helps explain why I am partial to EVGA.  Ive always been thinking Quality is more important than Price in my head.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: minerx117 on March 05, 2017, 12:58:07 AM
hello there are so many gtx 1070 do they all provide same hashrate?


This is $70 cheaper than the FTW version

$509 -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 08G-P4-5173-KR, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)


$579 - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 08G-P4-6276-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 10CM FAN,


Thank you :)




Hello

i run http://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070IXOC-8GD#kf (http://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070IXOC-8GD#kf)  awesome for 5-6 card rigs as the card is so small..  great little card factory OC great cooler single 90mm fan they also the cheapest 1070 available in my country at the moment. dont let the mini itx fool you this is a fully fledged 1070 same hashrates as my G1 GAMING 1070....  which cost more and is nearly twice the physical size..

Regards
#Nemo (NemosMiner-v1.6.1)



Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: QuintLeo on March 05, 2017, 02:41:22 AM

Hello

i run http://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070IXOC-8GD


 The mini-ITX Gigabyte 1070 doesn't overclock as much as a lot of other 1070s, but the ones I've got stay cool enough and work reliably and overclock pretty well.
 They're REAL nice to put into a MB with 2 slots close together to leave a full-length card largely unshrouded for good cooling on both cards.





Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: minerx117 on March 05, 2017, 04:42:22 AM

Hello

i run http://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1070IXOC-8GD


 The mini-ITX Gigabyte 1070 doesn't overclock as much as a lot of other 1070s, but the ones I've got stay cool enough and work reliably and overclock pretty well.
 They're REAL nice to put into a MB with 2 slots close together to leave a full-length card largely unshrouded for good cooling on both cards.





all mine will OC to above 2000mhz.. but yeh my G1 Gaming does go further.. i run at -30 tdp so max OC doesnt worry me...


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: Cryptohminer on March 05, 2017, 12:07:40 PM


OP, prices are dropping, keep this in mind while your are hunting for your GPU's, wish you luck.



Along with this evening’s new of the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, NVIDIA has a couple other product announcements of sorts. First off, starting tomorrow, the GeForce GTX 1080 is getting an official $100 price cut, bringing the card's price to $499. Since the card launched back in May at $599, prices for the card have held fairly steady around that MSRP. So once this price cut goes into effect, it will have a significant effect on card prices. Though it should be noted that the price here is the base price for vendor custom cards; the Founder's Edition card was not mentioned. If it maintains its $100 premium, then that card would be coming down to $599.

Update: The new prices for both the GTX 1080 FE and GTX 1070 FE have been published by NVIDIA. The GTX 1080 FE is getting a steeper-than-MSRP cut of $150, bringing it to $549 and reducing the FE premium to $50. Meanwhile the GTX 1070 FE is getting a $50 price cut, moving it to $399.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: Kronny on March 05, 2017, 09:35:10 PM
Hi Crypto, do u have a link?


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: Cryptohminer on March 05, 2017, 10:32:58 PM



It's been all over news sites as it was announced during the event.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5wtnb0/geforce_event_facts_tidbits_recap/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5wtnb0/geforce_event_facts_tidbits_recap/)

https://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/news/2017-02-28/NVIDIA%20499%20GTX%201080.png
 (https://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/news/2017-02-28/NVIDIA%20499%20GTX%201080.png)


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: boo50 on April 02, 2017, 03:54:11 PM
any thoughts about Palit GameRock Premium cards? or Inno3D ichill X4? last one have samsung chips, but Palit with micron also have good reviews and goos results.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: un4given on April 04, 2017, 07:33:00 AM
I bought 2 of Gigybyte GTX 1080 OC ITX mini cards and am fully happy with them. they both have samsung memory and give me 440 sol/sek @ 130 Watt and +200 core + 200 memory paid 335€ per piece (thank amazon warehouse deals)


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: Raymee on November 30, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
hello there are so many gtx 1070 do they all provide same hashrate?


This is $70 cheaper than the FTW version

$509 -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 08G-P4-5173-KR, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)


$579 - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 08G-P4-6276-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 10CM FAN,


Thank you :)




hi.   FTW is better

One and the same a hashrate, but FTW to need - 5% power  und FTW it'll be quieter.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: QuintLeo on November 30, 2017, 11:45:29 PM
On the subject of Gigabyte - at this point I am specifically recommending to AVOID them (except perhaps the Aorus line) due to their move to crappy junk DIE TOO YOUNG sleeve bearing fan designs sometime in the last generation or two.

 EVGA is all ball bearing and generally VERY good built quality, MSI appears to be all ball bearing.

 Zotrac it's impossible to tell for sure without taking one apart but appears to NOT use ball bearing fans on any card, Palit/Galax/KFA I can't speak to as they're not available in the USA.
 PNY, XFX, PowerColor - just generally crap build quality even *IF* a specific card uses ball bearing fans.
 HIS - used to have SOME models with ball bearing fans, but apparently have dropped the concept in recent models.

 On the AMD side, Sapphire is ALL ball bearing and very good designs in general.


 At this point, the only stuff I'm buying is EVGA, Sapphire, and will consider MSI if they're competative on cost.



Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: GhostxFx on November 30, 2017, 11:55:25 PM
In my experience msi oc really well but runs hot, evga oc well and zotac tops the list of best watt, temp and oc. Im currently running only evga and zotac, Still have to find out which brand's fans go bye bye first


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: DroidR17A on December 01, 2017, 12:00:10 AM
hello there are so many gtx 1070 do they all provide same hashrate?


This is $70 cheaper than the FTW version

$509 -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 08G-P4-5173-KR, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)


$579 - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 08G-P4-6276-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 10CM FAN,


Thank you :)




I use FTWs but be careful not let them overheat. If you can, align them vertically or in parallel, but be careful with vertical stacking as the heat from the lower card(s) will rise and overheat the upper card(s). I had one go up in flames after two months or so of mining. Also be sure to give them time to rest and cool down from time to time. Learnt my lesson the hard way.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: GhostxFx on December 01, 2017, 03:17:55 PM
hello there are so many gtx 1070 do they all provide same hashrate?


This is $70 cheaper than the FTW version

$509 -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 08G-P4-5173-KR, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)


$579 - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 08G-P4-6276-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 10CM FAN,


Thank you :)




I use FTWs but be careful not let them overheat. If you can, align them vertically or in parallel, but be careful with vertical stacking as the heat from the lower card(s) will rise and overheat the upper card(s). I had one go up in flames after two months or so of mining. Also be sure to give them time to rest and cool down from time to time. Learnt my lesson the hard way.

Do you mean like shut them down once a month? week maby?


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: DroidR17A on December 01, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
hello there are so many gtx 1070 do they all provide same hashrate?


This is $70 cheaper than the FTW version

$509 -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 08G-P4-5173-KR, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)


$579 - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 08G-P4-6276-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 10CM FAN,


Thank you :)




I use FTWs but be careful not let them overheat. If you can, align them vertically or in parallel, but be careful with vertical stacking as the heat from the lower card(s) will rise and overheat the upper card(s). I had one go up in flames after two months or so of mining. Also be sure to give them time to rest and cool down from time to time. Learnt my lesson the hard way.

Do you mean like shut them down once a month? week maby?

I would shut them down for at least 30 mins a day. But agin, a lot depends on your configuration and how cool the environment is. I had them running at 65c, but stacked vertically. As long as you can keep the temperature under control you should be ok, you just have to be very careful that the capacitors don't burn out.


Title: Re: which gtx 1070? is evga FTW better?
Post by: GhostxFx on December 01, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
hello there are so many gtx 1070 do they all provide same hashrate?


This is $70 cheaper than the FTW version

$509 -  EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 08G-P4-5173-KR, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC)


$579 - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 08G-P4-6276-KR, 8GB GDDR5, RGB LED, 10CM FAN,


Thank you :)




I use FTWs but be careful not let them overheat. If you can, align them vertically or in parallel, but be careful with vertical stacking as the heat from the lower card(s) will rise and overheat the upper card(s). I had one go up in flames after two months or so of mining. Also be sure to give them time to rest and cool down from time to time. Learnt my lesson the hard way.

Do you mean like shut them down once a month? week maby?

I would shut them down for at least 30 mins a day. But agin, a lot depends on your configuration and how cool the environment is. I had them running at 65c, but stacked vertically. As long as you can keep the temperature under control you should be ok, you just have to be very careful that the capacitors don't burn out.

That often, maybe I put some sort of minestop and minestart command into a daily batch file or something like that