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Title: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: rambogoham on March 05, 2017, 08:22:01 PM
When you set up a coinbase account and want to move your bitcoins to a gambling site or vice versa.

1. Create a desktop wallet on your computer. I use Multibit.
2. Send your bitcoins from coinbase to your desktop wallet
3. Then from your desktop wallet to the gambling site. Withdraw your winnings  ;) from the gambling site and send them to your desktop wallet, then back to coinbase.
That way coinbase sees the deposit from your desktop wallet rather than your gambling site wallet.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on March 05, 2017, 08:30:02 PM
Many have speculated that Coinbase can track transactions easily for four to five hops. That would make the local wallet trick null and void. Now, they may only be checking 1-2 hops now but that could change at any time.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: LTU_btc on March 05, 2017, 11:02:36 PM
I don't understand point of doing it. It will require to pay 2x fees - first one for withdrawal from gambling site and another one bitcoin network fee for sending bitcoins to Xapo wallet. If you already have desktop wallet, just keep your bitcoins on it, why send it to Coinbase?
And mostly people who are using Coinbase, they don't use desktop wallets for some reasons.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: cengsuwuei on March 05, 2017, 11:13:53 PM
youre solution and sugestion is not good
if only playing gambling site is good is not use coinbase wallet, use multibit, electrum , blockchain or another wallet




Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: crairezx20 on March 05, 2017, 11:27:07 PM
I think it can be still traced by coinbase. much better to use mixer like bitmixer its much more safe done the other way or what you mention because there are still footprints. and you can trace the address and the transaction..  unlike in mixer they had already preserve bitcoin and ready to send ..


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: puremage111 on March 06, 2017, 03:55:14 AM
Wow thanks for the info, as i only uses blockchain and bought my btc off seller/ localbitcoins i didnt know that coinbase have such rule.

I always thought nothing is illegal when we relate it to cryptos  :o


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: Zadicar on March 06, 2017, 12:46:44 PM
This is just a waste of time why would bother to use coinbase if you could able to use other web wallets that dont have restrictions regarding on using it for gambling purposes and also you are just wasting off fees on each transfer and the hassle you are making on just transferring funds.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: dodgrad on March 06, 2017, 01:06:48 PM
Better do not risk money in this way. If you use Bitcoin to gambling in casinos, you'd better not use Coinbase.
You can use a separate wallet in Multibit and then mix it for example by verified Bitcoin Debit Card (for example Cryptopay.me). Then you can be sure that nobody block your BTC.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 06, 2017, 01:39:47 PM
first of all it is easy to figure out you are doing it since you are only using one address in the middle and they can even consider your address as one of the gambling site's addresses and ban you.

but the question is why even bother with this much headache. just buy from Coinbase, move to your desktop wallet and gamble with those funds. if you win just move to your desktop wallet and keep it there. this way even if Coinbase bans you, you haven't been keeping anything in their site.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: olubams on March 06, 2017, 02:50:40 PM
When you set up a coinbase account and want to move your bitcoins to a gambling site or vice versa.

1. Create a desktop wallet on your computer. I use Multibit.
2. Send your bitcoins from coinbase to your desktop wallet
3. Then from your desktop wallet to the gambling site. Withdraw your winnings  ;) from the gambling site and send them to your desktop wallet, then back to coinbase.
That way coinbase sees the deposit from your desktop wallet rather than your gambling site wallet.

That your analysis is actually for a newbie who thinks when verifying you just go one step backward and that settles it. I guess a lot of people agrees it does not work that way. If it works for you, its because they are yet to flag your account maybe due to the amount and the volume of transactions going into it but I tell you when they are ready, they will not only go five steps of a transaction, they might even start from the beginning of all transactions that have flowed into your account...


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on March 06, 2017, 03:26:56 PM
If you like to hide your transaction just use bitcoin mixer services, use two for one transaction to make it more complicated to track. There is another option of exchanging bitcoin to monero and back to bitcoin. But best option out of all of this is to just use another wallets like blockchain or electrum who don't care about source of your bitcoins.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: lite on March 06, 2017, 03:39:03 PM
When you set up a coinbase account and want to move your bitcoins to a gambling site or vice versa.

1. Create a desktop wallet on your computer. I use Multibit.
2. Send your bitcoins from coinbase to your desktop wallet
3. Then from your desktop wallet to the gambling site. Withdraw your winnings  ;) from the gambling site and send them to your desktop wallet, then back to coinbase.
That way coinbase sees the deposit from your desktop wallet rather than your gambling site wallet.
Instead of doing that you can use shapeshift, exchange your bitcoin for an altcoin then reverse the same process to get bitcoin to coinbase directly.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: alyssa85 on March 06, 2017, 04:32:54 PM
When you set up a coinbase account and want to move your bitcoins to a gambling site or vice versa.

1. Create a desktop wallet on your computer. I use Multibit.
2. Send your bitcoins from coinbase to your desktop wallet
3. Then from your desktop wallet to the gambling site. Withdraw your winnings  ;) from the gambling site and send them to your desktop wallet, then back to coinbase.
That way coinbase sees the deposit from your desktop wallet rather than your gambling site wallet.
Instead of doing that you can use shapeshift, exchange your bitcoin for an altcoin then reverse the same process to get bitcoin to coinbase directly.

This. Lots of gambling sites accept altcoins. Find one that accepts alts, and then send your coins to the gambler using shapeshift in the middle to purchase the alt.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: dustboy on March 06, 2017, 04:34:35 PM
I have done exactly the same steps last year, but then I realized that it took too many times just for gambling. Dont do it frequently, otherwise coinbase may detect your activity and ban your account. Better to use other wallet for gambling purpose, omce you want to withdraw your btc from the gambling site, better to withdraw it to an exchange like which has no terms about gambling activity.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: andrei56 on March 06, 2017, 05:36:02 PM
When you set up a coinbase account and want to move your bitcoins to a gambling site or vice versa.

1. Create a desktop wallet on your computer. I use Multibit.
2. Send your bitcoins from coinbase to your desktop wallet
3. Then from your desktop wallet to the gambling site. Withdraw your winnings  ;) from the gambling site and send them to your desktop wallet, then back to coinbase.
That way coinbase sees the deposit from your desktop wallet rather than your gambling site wallet.
This method will not work your best bet is to convert your bitcoins to another crypto and then buy again bitcoin that way your coins will be clean but the issue here is why you want to use coinbase at all.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: HEPHAISTOS on March 06, 2017, 05:47:21 PM
When you set up a coinbase account and want to move your bitcoins to a gambling site or vice versa.

1. Create a desktop wallet on your computer. I use Multibit.
2. Send your bitcoins from coinbase to your desktop wallet
3. Then from your desktop wallet to the gambling site. Withdraw your winnings  ;) from the gambling site and send them to your desktop wallet, then back to coinbase.
That way coinbase sees the deposit from your desktop wallet rather than your gambling site wallet.
send your bitcoin to an exchanger then buy other altcoin like eth etc dash ltc...
send your altcoin from the exchange site to an other one and exchange them for BTC
you can buy low and sell high to compensate the fee.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: mrcash02 on March 06, 2017, 05:48:37 PM
Lol, Coinbase is tracking users a lot... What do they have against gambling? They could forbid to send directly from Coinbase to gambling sites, but forbid to send to another address to send to gambling site next it's insanity...

If it's so hard to make this transaction, better to don't use this online wallet, there are another options of wallets if you like to gamble.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: andreibi on March 06, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
Send your Coinbase BTC to Poloniex and then from Polo to the gambling site. Polo charges 100 bits only for withdrawal, which is cheaper than using a local wallet nowadays.

Exchanges like Poloniex and Bittrex uses a different address when withdrawing, tke note of that too.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: fullypak on March 08, 2017, 06:28:50 AM
Send your Coinbase BTC to Poloniex and then from Polo to the gambling site. Polo charges 100 bits only for withdrawal, which is cheaper than using a local wallet nowadays.

Exchanges like Poloniex and Bittrex uses a different address when withdrawing, tke note of that too.

I use XAPO account for all my routine transactions, and the good part is they won't charge any fee for sending money unless you're sending only a few Santoshi then they will have some charges. Recently they added these fees to avoid very small transactions on their network. I'm using this wallet for quite some time and so far no issues.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: dodgrad on March 08, 2017, 08:28:25 AM
Lol, Coinbase is tracking users a lot... What do they have against gambling? They could forbid to send directly from Coinbase to gambling sites, but forbid to send to another address to send to gambling site next it's insanity...

If it's so hard to make this transaction, better to don't use this online wallet, there are another options of wallets if you like to gamble.

Coinbase probably have nothing against gambling it is about AML/KYC law.
Explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=454795.0

Thay must truck transactions like this.


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: leopard2 on March 09, 2017, 08:35:03 PM
LOL

sounds like a advertisement for Monero or Dash to me

if an asshole service provider disses you because of blockchain analysis then BTC has got a real problem  ;D

NO FUNGIBILITY!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: dodgrad on March 10, 2017, 11:36:13 AM
LOL

sounds like a advertisement for Monero or Dash to me

if an asshole service provider disses you because of blockchain analysis then BTC has got a real problem  ;D

NO FUNGIBILITY!!!!!!!!!

Blockchain has its advantages and it also has its drawbacks. The fact that transactions are transparent, in many cases, is very positive. We all know how it works, if someone does not accept that, there is many other cryptocurrencies. For me personally, this is not a problem, and when it comes to online wallets I don't trust any. Only desktop wallets!


Title: Re: How to get around Coinbase ban if you withdraw from (gambling) website
Post by: numismatist on March 10, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
LOL

sounds like a advertisement for Monero or Dash to me

if an asshole service provider disses you because of blockchain analysis then BTC has got a real problem  ;D

NO FUNGIBILITY!!!!!!!!!

They are no more than "builtin mixing services" but mix the coins to a lesser degree, since any good oldschool mixer hands you over totally unrelated BTCs. The exchanger trick cuts of some chunk on fees and there's that volatility danger.
Something completely draw me away from using Shapeshift, cant remember if this has been lack of an .onion adress, to high fees or to much javascript in their frontend. Maybe everything.