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Hey I'm trying some mining, just with my desktops here.

I can get together about 3 Mh/s. 

Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, (I can hardly even mine litecoins) but i want to play.  I'm trying to find someplace where I can get paid for hashing/mining.

The last couple of nights I've mined Slush's pool, that's a HUGE mistake for such a low powered miner.  I can't take any more like this:

https://i.imgur.com/b0t6Y5B.jpg

IS there a good pool with straight PPS no scoring or geometry or bullshit? It might take me a year to hit the BTC .01 minimum payout over there. I'm in the southwestern US.

I'm not looking to feel like a "power miner" with my hash rate but if I'm pooling I'd like to get a few satoshis here and there. I've been messing with bitcoin for a couple of weeks and it would be nice to see a transaction in my wallet.

Anyone have recent experience with low hash rates and P2Pool? I haven't got it running yet but I guess it should still be better than solo mining right?

I mined a few shares at p2pool.org before I found out the site was a fake/trap (it's not just a p2pool node it's a pool with fees) but I never got credited a single share there. Or even showed up on any other p2pool page's stats.  Even though others that appeared to be in the p2pool.org pool were.

Advice o gurus?

Thoughts from the rest of you?

Thanks...

Unfortunately with 3Mh/s you will not be able to process more than those small shares. You need to get a ATI GPU not to say a bigger CPU.

Forget about it, you're just wasting your time and electricity.

Thanks a first couple posts in with "all or nothing" statements.

I am not concerned with how few shares I generate, I'm concerned about hashing away for hours, generating shares, and getting 0 payout.

Does anyone recommend a reliable pool for straight PPS and will eventually pay me for my shares?

EDIT: 3rd "fuggedaboudit" post while I typed this. What a bunch of sourpusses.

Takes about a month to get 1BTC at ~600MH/s.  With your 3MH/s it'd take 16 years.  16 years of mining to make £50.   ::)

As I was saying....

Thanks.  I see you're trying to be helpful, unlike Vladimir who's straight trolling.

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Anybody with some on-topic feedback? I deleted the rest of this post because I don't want to play with trolls. I don't need to explain what I'm doing or justify it.

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I'm looking for a live, honest, straight PPS pool that plans to stick around.

I haven't tried all of the pools in the list yet and would prefer a good recommendation than leaving a large trail of unclaimable satoshis against every pool i can find until I "settle in" somewhere.

Where on Slush's website do you find that screen?  I've been looking everywhere for it.  At least to know that I'm doing something, even if no BTCs are coming in, at least I'm contributing something.

Actually with that kind of processing power, any pool will be the same for you, of course payments will differ, but the difference is going to be so small, that you shouldn't bother.

Estimated weekly income: .00118 (or less). Enough to pay for 1/10th of the electricity you're using.

"Statistics" link, third link down on the left.

I see that link, but see a different table.  One that doesn't include the "your shares"  etc.

#   Block found at   Duration   Total shares   Block #   Block value   Validity
17594   2013-04-20 15:59:01   1:05:56   9044981   232266   25.57703536    75 confirmations left
17593   2013-04-20 14:53:05   1:21:26   11174330   232260   25.36380000    69 confirmations left
17592   2013-04-20 13:31:39   1:07:06   9135866   232257   25.31713310    66 confirmations left
17591   2013-04-20 12:24:33   2:29:55   20303652   232250   25.16449000    59 confirmations left

No need for me to re-hash the obvious here.


To the OP:  might want to look at triplemining.com.  Medium sized pool with no fees.  1% goes into a jackpot fund that gets distributed weekly.

Are you logged in OK?

wampa jabba are you logged in to the site?

I'm not trying to profit, thanks again for the honest numbers guys trying to help.

I'm going to be hashing for a while, I want to get paid for my hashing. This is perfectly reasonable economics.  If you have the option of recovering some of your expenses vs. the option of recovering none of your expenses which would you select?

Also once I hit payout somewhere i have a few satoshis to play with.

Please note in the image I posted that most of my shares are receiving ZERO VALUE at slush's pool.

Please note that I'm not accusing slush of any wrongdoing, his pool uses a proprietary scoring system that is, among other possible things, time based. He's very clear about this and I believe I have seen him post that his pool is not the best option for slow hashers.

Just trying to find a solid, long term PPS pool that welcomes (or tolerates) slow hashers and has a history of some reliability.

Thanks mccminer I'll give it a shot.

I'm also interested in hearing real experience from people who have put slow machines into P2Pool.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

Gives you a list of PPS pools.

Yes, Logged in.

Login   Password   Found blocks   Current shares   Score      Last share at   Mhash/s*   Stratum   Suggested difficulty   Actions
XXX.WWX   Pass          0                  0              0               -              0                -                   1   
XXX.WWY   Pass          0                  0              0               -              0                -                   1   
XXX.WWZ   Pass          0                  0              0      4 days, 6 hours      0                -                   1   

I see in the list that triplemining is actually PPLNS which I need to avoid as a slow hasher.  This is why I haven't gone to their site.

I went to deepbit site, it says that you can select PPS or Proportional so I'll be signing up and giving their PPS pool a try.

I avoided them because I didn't realize it was a choice and clearly I can't be mining for proportional payouts in a large pool  :D

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Wampa_Jabba I open chrome and type in "mining.bitcoin.cz" to get to slush's site.

Then I click on the "Statistics" link in the left column and see that table, under a chart of pool performance information.

It's possible that it's not rendering that column for you, since with a last share at 4 days ago, there would be no data?

I would suggest that you ask in the pool's forum thread maybe slush or someone can tell you.

Why do you want to mine with 3Mh/s? Even mining with less than 1000 is starting to have no sense due to the increase on difficulty.

I can understand exactly why anyone would want to mine even at 3Mh/s!

Exploration, a sense of wonder,  the joy that comes from setting something up and it works.

Not everyone must be financially motivated to explore.

It's not the Destination, it's the Journey!

 :D

As far as i know deepbit offers pay per share. They have a minimum cashout of .01 BTC last time I checked. Hope this addressed your questions.

Way to beat a dead horse. Read before you post. Like the post where I explicitly stated that I know how to google a mining calculator?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=forum+troll (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=forum+troll)

Twerka (and vladimir apparently), there are other motivations besides financial.  For me this is educational, and interesting. As a hobbyist programmer I may end up writing some tools or useful (or maybe useless who knows) software for interacting with these cryptocurrencies.  In any case I'm advancing my understanding of the system by participating in it.

If I actually get to writing any software I'll probably end up spending that power to hash testnet anyways. I'm sure the fact that there's a testnet where people hash for NO MONEY AT ALL is something that confuses vladimir to no end.

As I mentioned in a previous post, it's better to recover some of your expenses than none of them, don't you think? I think so.  Why not hash to a live pool now and then while I'm learning?

I'm surprised that discussing it seems to generate animosity.

I think its too easily assumed by most that everyone's interest in bitcoin must be financial gain.

Funny, isn't it.   Perhaps it may also be...

Mine is bigger than yours...

So why would you bother.

Funny how the Jocks in high school were always putting down those they thought were below them, and had no chance of getting a girl...  Yet they are today the ones on welfare...

Perhaps these bitcoin jocks, who scoff at anyone who doesn't seem to have the acceptable hardware will one day be asking coinerd for a job after he creates the killer bitcoin app!

Remember during the gold rush, it wasn't the miners who made the money, it was the suppliers of spades, jeans and dynamite...

Yeah, I can understand that, and I think it's good. He is already mining, but now he wants a new pool to get better hasrates or more coins, then, that is no more "curiosity" it's greed. And 3mh is not enough.


The advice we are giving is because a peson who is new may think he can make money mining with a very low hasrate, it's not true. We try to help you to understand that is not worth the effort, the time spended reading how to configure the machine, the software, the pool, etc; and the electricity you are using.

If you understood all of this and you still think that you want to explore, knowing you are losing resources instead of getting it, and knowing that the satisfaction will be on the exploration and not in the amount fo coins or money, then it's perfectly reasonable.

I get your point.

At 3Mh/s no-one is going to retire.

Its waste of energy better buy gpu, fpa, asic. GL

50btc.com offer a PPS and have a minimum for extracting the BTC from the pool.

If memory serves, it is 0.01 as a minimum.

I hope this helps and answers your question directly.

Good luck and enjoy.

 ;)

If you want to mine for fun, solo mine and hope you hit the lottery.  What's the point of PPS if it isn't "for the money".  Why look for steady payouts?

To understand how it works... ;D