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Title: well i think im done
Post by: vm1990 on April 20, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
as it says i think iv had it im giving up on bitcoins.

im in a 2nd fight over paypal now and im just sick of it iv been mining bitcoins for over a year and my mining gear and everything will be switched of at the end of the month bitcoins are fine aslong as you trust people but really there are that many people who keep ripping people off iv had it

there Bitcoin address 1FpYNg82zhrP8RXoDTASumeASLi7EbPpmy

if anyone sees this bitcoin address pop up anywhere let me know id love to find out who it is and beat them so hard they wont use a computer again

transaction id
https://blockchain.info/tx/697813343aa4dcf442f576abc14d2fa8b6477cd9727377412ae006ff30c0be21

alot of people might think its not alot but it was for £40 and now i dont have enough money for rent.... so yeh id go begging but theres not really any point
also feel free to message me and ill be more than happy to give you the apparent account holders name and address  

also a note if you use ebay and paypal dont be retarded and use the same password for both

also there ebay id is

alkalinesky (31)
100.0% Positive Feedback
Member since 12-Oct-99 in United States
Location: CO, United States

sadly they opened the case just after i left feedback (note to self give up leaving feedback)





Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: palmcoins on April 20, 2013, 07:36:38 PM
Sorry to hear that!


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: coffeeandclove on April 20, 2013, 07:56:01 PM
Hey well I know what you mean because so many of the bitcoin related websites are buggy and not trustworthy, etc. They are obviously not subject to banking regulations and there are reports all over here of people having their money stolen. I've thought about giving up myself but will hang in there awhile longer.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: vm1990 on April 20, 2013, 08:03:55 PM
iv been hanging in there for 3 months now and iv just had it bitcoin is way to stressful for what its worth and for the first time in my life im against something anonymous (these are the sort of reasons that so much finachal stuff requires so much personal information) its a shame bitcoin could be good but a few selfish a**holes spoil it, the way i feel right now i would probably kill the person if i found them


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: nebulus on April 20, 2013, 09:05:20 PM
People rip people off - fact of life, you've got to accept this. I've been ripped off quite a bit of times here. Good luck!


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: Anon136 on April 20, 2013, 09:07:46 PM
maybe you get ripped off by individual actors in the bitcoin community but at-least the currency its self isn't ripping me off, you know like the currency in the "regulated" economy.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: mining4dice on April 20, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
buy btc for cash only


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: Joshster on April 20, 2013, 09:11:05 PM
Live and learn, don't give up. If your serious about quitting I see your from the UK I might be interested in your equipment.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: 8bitp on April 20, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
I'm sorry for you.

I believe, other things in live will bring you back again!  ;)


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: ArbitrageX on April 20, 2013, 09:18:30 PM
The anonymous aspect to BTC is a double edged sword...

Frankly, I'm not breaking any laws, planning to, or trafficking in anything I shouldn't be.

I would get the most value out of this system if it was more secure.  But with anonymity there is no accountability...


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: LiteBurner on April 20, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
hmmm, he did a claimback on paypal? Paypal payments come with all their info.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: n.montross1 on April 20, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
Ok well it sounds like you were selling Bitcoins on ebay which was VERY risky to begin with.  When you sell electronic goods on ebay there is zero seller protection.   The buyer could post you positive feedback and say they love everything and then still get a chargeback that ebay would approve automatically.

You really aren't even supposed to sell digital currency on ebay even though they seem to allow it. But I've heard people are getting their Payapal accounts frozen for selling it, so I would be careful there.  I wouldn't sell it on there just due to that. 

But very sorry to hear about your situation.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: egorisek36 on April 20, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
it's very important to trade only in trustworthy traders.
the rest are not secure..


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: DannyHamilton on April 21, 2013, 12:12:12 AM
You're done with Bitcoin because Paypal is crap and allows people to rip you off?

That doesn't seem to make much sense.

Wouldn't it make more sense to give up on Paypal?


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: ooeygooeygold on April 21, 2013, 12:15:39 AM
that sucks! paypal is nightmare there holding a bunch of my money I wouldn't quit yet tho...soon bitcoins will worth an ounce of gold


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: tesserajk on April 21, 2013, 12:50:27 AM
I have had nothing but bad luck with PayPal and unfortunately there are enough scammers that a lot of people end up in your situation. I have had a lot of luck sticking to localbitcoins.com or bitcoin-otc trading with very trusted traders.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: vm1990 on April 21, 2013, 02:27:34 AM
right after a bit of thinking im not giving up on btc just yet but im going to give paypal a run for there money failing that anyone know when anonymouse want to rape paypal again? i would like to root them on.. wouldnt want to cost paypal lost earnings by joining in  :-\

as for using paypal dont really have much choice in the UK considering were one of the worlds banking hubs the UK as a whole is crap for anything money wise


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: sublime5447 on April 21, 2013, 02:36:19 AM
If you dont want to get ripped off sell them to me. When you sell on ebay you are getting very high prices for your coins, with the added price comes greater risk. I have sold a few hundred coins on ebay and was only ripped off by one guy he got me for 2 coins and then left negative feedback. I have been selling on ebay for over 5 years for a living and if you think you are just going to jump in there and not get screwed you are wrong. Ebay is full of scammers, you can buy hacked accounts so it is easy to scam. Sorry you got screwed.aasasw


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: Bytecoiner on April 21, 2013, 02:42:57 AM

as for using paypal dont really have much choice in the UK

Yet. Bitcoin will find a way.  ;)


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: cash4net on April 21, 2013, 03:10:53 AM

as for using paypal dont really have much choice in the UK

Yet. Bitcoin will find a way.  ;)

what did they rip you on? and why didnt u use escrow?


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: DanJaker on April 21, 2013, 03:15:42 AM
The problem is your using paypal, paypal is useless, there are a number of other ways to do business with cryptocurrencies...


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: ooeygooeygold on April 21, 2013, 05:04:39 AM
one day we will all be rich ;D


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: XXthetimeisnowXX on April 21, 2013, 06:12:43 AM
Live and learn, don't give up. If your serious about quitting I see your from the UK I might be interested in your equipment.

im only a state away...not to be stateist but there are some shady mother fuckers in colorado. i used to work out ther. its a shit hole and everyone is trying to be harder than everyone else. not to say there are priks everywhere there but not such a good place to live/work. im out of there. sorry to here that. maybe ill go knock on there door for ya :)


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: psybits on April 21, 2013, 06:16:14 AM
iv been hanging in there for 3 months now and iv just had it bitcoin is way to stressful for what its worth and for the first time in my life im against something anonymous (these are the sort of reasons that so much finachal stuff requires so much personal information) its a shame bitcoin could be good but a few selfish a**holes spoil it, the way i feel right now i would probably kill the person if i found them

Don't sell BTC for Paypal it's the golden rule! Sorry to hear of your experience though. The best thing to do is learn from the experience, pick yourself up and go out there and make even more BTC!


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: justabitoftime on April 21, 2013, 07:21:31 AM
it's very important to trade only in trustworthy traders.
the rest are not secure..

This is solid advice. Trustyworthy traders + escrow = success.  There's a poker expression which comes to mind:

"Don't trust anyone but your momma, then cut the deck"


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: Lethn on April 21, 2013, 07:29:01 AM
Bitcoin works fine, it's paypal that's utterly stupid, you need to stop using paypal or ebay, maybe bitmit instead? At least that's going to be Bitcoin friendly, honestly, the loss sucks but it seems what you've done is completely ignore every piece of warning that a Bitcointalk user has posted repeatedly on here for the past several months so I'm not surprised you've been scammed out of your coins.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: Deafboy on April 21, 2013, 07:29:10 AM
I don't always agree with Goat, but this:
Quote
Quit BTC cuz paypal rips you off?

Selling BTC on e-bay is against every recommendation on the forum, and against e-bay policies itself. OP doesn't make any sense.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: vm1990 on April 21, 2013, 09:51:07 AM
If you dont want to get ripped off sell them to me. When you sell on ebay you are getting very high prices for your coins, with the added price comes greater risk. I have sold a few hundred coins on ebay and was only ripped off by one guy he got me for 2 coins and then left negative feedback. I have been selling on ebay for over 5 years for a living and if you think you are just going to jump in there and not get screwed you are wrong. Ebay is full of scammers, you can buy hacked accounts so it is easy to scam. Sorry you got screwed.aasasw

thats kinda painful but im not some noob on ebay been selling on and off for even longer than you sold 1000s of items on my various accounts its just bitcoins as paypal must see them as competition so wont accept them as legit items.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: vm1990 on April 21, 2013, 09:58:42 AM
I don't always agree with Goat, but this:
Quote
Quit BTC cuz paypal rips you off?

Selling BTC on e-bay is against every recommendation on the forum, and against e-bay policies itself. OP doesn't make any sense.

oooo your so negative but that said i guess its a stupid mistake and im back on bitcoin for now anyway. its not really paypals fault its the humans inbetween thats the problem suppose i got to trusting after having some very good experiences with some very nice ebayers


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: bzh on April 21, 2013, 10:18:09 AM
You're done with Bitcoin because Paypal is crap and allows people to rip you off?

That doesn't seem to make much sense.

Wouldn't it make more sense to give up on Paypal?


Paypal is in fact the reason I became interested in bit coin. They charge huge fees and claim they insure transactions, but they charge you the original payment in case of a refund. They keep the fees and falsely claim that they insured the purchase.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: Tsaoulas on April 21, 2013, 10:39:43 AM
Don't give up man,these things happen,yesterday a guy tried to sell me a bot by asking me to "open ports 22 so he could log into my pc to change some things" ;D

scammers are hilarious,I have to admit.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: RustyShackleford1950 on April 21, 2013, 10:41:27 AM
Never use paypal. It's just not worth it.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: deadweasel on April 21, 2013, 01:19:04 PM
I don't always agree with Goat, but this:
Quote
Quit BTC cuz paypal rips you off?

Selling BTC on e-bay is against every recommendation on the forum, and against e-bay policies itself. OP doesn't make any sense.

oooo your so negative but that said i guess its a stupid mistake and im back on bitcoin for now anyway. its not really paypals fault its the humans inbetween thats the problem suppose i got to trusting after having some very good experiences with some very nice ebayers

On the newbie section there is an important thread called TRUST NO ONE.  Do not let your trust for one BTC user leak into your trust for another. 

A fool and his BTC are soon parted.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: sublime5447 on April 21, 2013, 08:55:22 PM
I sell for paypal every day and dont get charged back. It is all about knowing who is legit and who is not. Trust no one is complete bullshit, if you want to make money trust the right people.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: jperl on April 21, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
You're done with Bitcoin because Paypal is crap and allows people to rip you off?

That doesn't seem to make much sense.

Wouldn't it make more sense to give up on Paypal?


Paypal is in fact the reason I became interested in bit coin. They charge huge fees and claim they insure transactions, but they charge you the original payment in case of a refund. They keep the fees and falsely claim that they insured the purchase.

I would love to see a trustable version of Paypal for Bitcoin that actually ensures the transactions.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: Anna Moss on April 21, 2013, 09:28:24 PM
I too would like to see a trustworthy version of Paypal for Bitcoins. 

Quote
"Don't trust anyone but your momma, then cut the deck"
lol


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: movellan on April 21, 2013, 09:34:13 PM

also there ebay id is

alkalinesky (31)
100.0% Positive Feedback
Member since 12-Oct-99 in United States
Location: CO, United States




Is this the auction number you got screwed on? --->  321111248305

If so, eBay deleted this item so it cannot have an ongoing PayPal chargeback.

Also user "alkalinesky" just changed his user ID to "77bluesky".


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: BeeCoin on April 21, 2013, 09:41:37 PM
IMO Paypal and Bitcoins don't mix well... AT ALL...


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: jfranko on April 21, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
I  was thinking of selling on ebay but the more the I hear the less sure I am.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: jayrat on April 22, 2013, 04:18:04 AM
as it says i think iv had it im giving up on bitcoins.

im in a 2nd fight over paypal now and im just sick of it iv been mining bitcoins for over a year and my mining gear and everything will be switched of at the end of the month bitcoins are fine aslong as you trust people but really there are that many people who keep ripping people off iv had it

there Bitcoin address 1FpYNg82zhrP8RXoDTASumeASLi7EbPpmy

if anyone sees this bitcoin address pop up anywhere let me know id love to find out who it is and beat them so hard they wont use a computer again

transaction id
https://blockchain.info/tx/697813343aa4dcf442f576abc14d2fa8b6477cd9727377412ae006ff30c0be21

alot of people might think its not alot but it was for £40 and now i dont have enough money for rent.... so yeh id go begging but theres not really any point
also feel free to message me and ill be more than happy to give you the apparent account holders name and address  

also a note if you use ebay and paypal dont be retarded and use the same password for both

also there ebay id is

alkalinesky (31)
100.0% Positive Feedback
Member since 12-Oct-99 in United States
Location: CO, United States

sadly they opened the case just after i left feedback (note to self give up leaving feedback)





Once i get my coins up and running i plan on doing the same thing over ebay except i'm going to have a rule that they need to open then close a claim before i send them the coin.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: anderaga on April 22, 2013, 04:47:48 AM
Don't quit BitCoin, just refuse to take PayPal as a payment since it is just too easy for a scammer to hide behind PayPal knowing that all they have to do is file a claim with PayPal to get a full refund after you have already sent the BitCoin.  PayPal will always side with the buyer even when the seller has incontrovertible proof.

With any luck, we can eventually drive the corrupt PayPal out of business with the success of BitCoin.


Title: Re: well i think im done
Post by: sublime5447 on April 22, 2013, 11:12:13 PM
OP = SCAMMER?