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Title: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: Dredd5 on March 11, 2017, 10:44:12 PM
Hi, I am working on my first build and today I connected the USB powered riser for the first time and it shorted out. BIOS no longer sees the fried PCIe slot on the mobo.

I tried a second PCIe slot with another riser but the same short occurred. Any idea what could cause this?

http://imgur.com/a/iahP1

Mobo is Asus Q87M-E
Thank you


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: philipma1957 on March 12, 2017, 01:00:48 AM
Hi, I am working on my first build and today I connected the USB powered riser for the first time and it shorted out. BIOS no longer sees the fried PCIe slot on the mobo.

I tried a second PCIe slot with another riser but the same short occurred. Any idea what could cause this?

http://imgur.com/a/iahP1

Mobo is Asus Q87M-E
Thank you

turn everything off. unplug psu

take a photo of how you hooked up the riser and in what direction you put the burnt piece into the mobo.

you have something reversed

do this with the psu unplugged


an other possibility is the riser has a short.


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: xxcsu on March 12, 2017, 01:13:54 AM
make sure you are plugging those risers on the right way into your motherboard

http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH/riserhow.JPG

http://beszeljukmeg.com/ETH/risershow2.JPG




Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: Dredd5 on March 12, 2017, 01:38:39 AM
OMG...

LOL I put it in the wrong way. I figured if it was 1, it could be the hardware, but 2x its probably me so before start RMA-ing stuff I better figure out what went wrong.

The mobo isn't reading the PCIe slot. Any hope of salvaging the mobo? I read you could scrub it with a toothbrush and WD40 or something. Hopefully the GPU's aren't bricked.


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: padrino on March 12, 2017, 01:44:00 AM
OMG...

LOL I put it in the wrong way. I figured if it was 1, it could be the hardware, but 2x its probably me so before start RMA-ing stuff I better figure out what went wrong.

The mobo isn't reading the PCIe slot. Any hope of salvaging the mobo? I read you could scrub it with a toothbrush and WD40 or something. Hopefully the GPU's aren't bricked.

I've done that before myself, it depends on the motherboard and short on how much can be salvaged but when you reverse it you feed current into the signaling.. It should have killed the riser and most likely motherboard slot but in all cases I've done it (sadly more than one over tired moment) the GPU was fine.


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: Dredd5 on March 12, 2017, 02:06:15 AM

I've done that before myself, it depends on the motherboard and short on how much can be salvaged but when you reverse it you feed current into the signaling.. It should have killed the riser and most likely motherboard slot but in all cases I've done it (sadly more than one over tired moment) the GPU was fine.

That's very reassuring, thank you!

Should I chuck the entire 16x riser/usb cable/1x riser and just buy new riser sets or do you know anyone who sells just the 1x part? Also what did you do with your mobo? Know of any repair places or any value on Ebay?


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: philipma1957 on March 12, 2017, 02:40:01 AM

I've done that before myself, it depends on the motherboard and short on how much can be salvaged but when you reverse it you feed current into the signaling.. It should have killed the riser and most likely motherboard slot but in all cases I've done it (sadly more than one over tired moment) the GPU was fine.

That's very reassuring, thank you!

Should I chuck the entire 16x riser/usb cable/1x riser and just buy new riser sets or do you know anyone who sells just the 1x part? Also what did you do with your mobo? Know of any repair places or any value on Ebay?

Toss it all out


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: philipma1957 on March 12, 2017, 02:46:41 AM
OMG...

LOL I put it in the wrong way. I figured if it was 1, it could be the hardware, but 2x its probably me so before start RMA-ing stuff I better figure out what went wrong.

The mobo isn't reading the PCIe slot. Any hope of salvaging the mobo? I read you could scrub it with a toothbrush and WD40 or something. Hopefully the GPU's aren't bricked.

I've done that before myself, it depends on the motherboard and short on how much can be salvaged but when you reverse it you feed current into the signaling.. It should have killed the riser and most likely motherboard slot but in all cases I've done it (sadly more than one over tired moment) the GPU was fine.

This is why I am not a big riser person.  I have had cataract surgery in both eyes. I get depth perception issues.

So do risers wrong been there done that.

In fact death to three mobos six risers and a three hundred dollar gpu since 2011.

I have done about a hundred risers in various builds.

And about five hundred cards in none riser builds which I prefer.


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: PovertyByte on March 12, 2017, 06:05:48 AM

I've done that before myself, it depends on the motherboard and short on how much can be salvaged but when you reverse it you feed current into the signaling.. It should have killed the riser and most likely motherboard slot but in all cases I've done it (sadly more than one over tired moment) the GPU was fine.

That's very reassuring, thank you!

Should I chuck the entire 16x riser/usb cable/1x riser and just buy new riser sets or do you know anyone who sells just the 1x part? Also what did you do with your mobo? Know of any repair places or any value on Ebay?

Toss it all out

What if I had a similar problem but the riser has no visible signs of burning or damage?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1821715.0

I did everything right but the PCIe x1 1.1 slot burned a little in my case and has discoloring but still works. I am unsure if I should even try using that riser in the future if I were to use my current PC's mobo in the future to make a 5 GPU rig


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: Wotan Wipeout on March 12, 2017, 06:13:01 AM
These Risers are cheap. Better get a new one.
Check the direction of the Molex too.
I have lots of Risers, and even when they look identical, sometimes the Molex has to be put in upside down.

Wotan


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: Etherion on March 12, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
dont feen to alone. I lost a GPU and MB that way on my first build.


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: philipma1957 on March 12, 2017, 02:07:41 PM

I've done that before myself, it depends on the motherboard and short on how much can be salvaged but when you reverse it you feed current into the signaling.. It should have killed the riser and most likely motherboard slot but in all cases I've done it (sadly more than one over tired moment) the GPU was fine.

That's very reassuring, thank you!

Should I chuck the entire 16x riser/usb cable/1x riser and just buy new riser sets or do you know anyone who sells just the 1x part? Also what did you do with your mobo? Know of any repair places or any value on Ebay?

Toss it all out

What if I had a similar problem but the riser has no visible signs of burning or damage?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1821715.0

I did everything right but the PCIe x1 1.1 slot burned a little in my case and has discoloring but still works. I am unsure if I should even try using that riser in the future if I were to use my current PC's mobo in the future to make a 5 GPU rig

the riser could have a short.  somewhere on the site is a photo of a riser with extra  solder and it caused a short.


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: Dredd5 on March 12, 2017, 03:56:27 PM
These Risers are cheap. Better get a new one.
Check the direction of the Molex too.
I have lots of Risers, and even when they look identical, sometimes the Molex has to be put in upside down.

Wotan


I was afraid of that so I specifically ordered the version 7 risers which have the SATA directly on the 16x riser; no nolex adapter at all! The version 7 are the red ones.


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: Dredd5 on March 12, 2017, 04:06:58 PM
dont feen to alone. I lost a GPU and MB that way on my first build.

So many minute technical details to mining + the time crunch factor = plenty of potential for mistakes.

Sorry to hear you lost a GPU. At least you know how its dead. I have to wait till next week for a new mobo!


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: azgal0r on March 12, 2017, 06:00:06 PM
I got kind of the same story...
I shutdown windows, the screen goes black but for some reason the pc doesnt shutdown...I proceed to plug an additional riser when I realize the pcie plug is melting!! Good thing the gpu is fine but the slot is done for. Im wondering if I should RMA the board...
FYI have the same red risers as you (v7).


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: HashZilla on March 12, 2017, 06:00:24 PM
I lost a couple main boards to a defective riser.   Possibly what Phil was referring to.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1649106.0


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: HashZilla on March 12, 2017, 06:01:59 PM

I also lost a main board to ham fisted attempt to install the socket protector, I mangled the socket pins.

It's a hobby, right ;D


Title: Re: Fried PCIe Slot
Post by: azgal0r on March 12, 2017, 06:11:44 PM

I also lost a main board to ham fisted attempt to install the socket protector, I mangled the socket pins.

It's a hobby, right ;D
LOL I think we all had our nights where NOTHING you attempt works (MB refusing to detect cards, drivers acting up...). I broke a few keyboards out of sheer frustration  :D