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Folks,

I would like to be direct and fast, what is the most profitable model for 1 or 2 years from now?
My budget is U $ 1250, and can vary 10% more or less.

COST 4 me.
RX 470 - U$$ 246,00
RX 480 - U$$ 291,56
GTX 1060 - U$$ 262
GTX 1070 - U$$ 485

Not accounted for freight expenses

Second,

Whats is best Warranty and Hashrate

XFX / SAPPHIRE / ASUS(STRIX) / GIGABYTE (i have and not like but..) / PowerColor (i have and like, many information in gpu-z to check status)

Please, help me.

TNX

MSI RX 480 8gb Gaming X, is the best i think, and almost the best for low temps and that's the most important for the card life time :)

I am observing that the Rx 470 is playing very close, but what complicates me is that the memory of 4GB is already in the limit, and at 8GB the price extrapolates too much, and the supplier does not have at the moment, I am considering the GTX 970 also, But I have no basis with her.

Can Nvidia be a good choice for mining, or just AMD?
I have 2 Rigs with AMD and I have not had a headache until today.

nVidia is well doing now on some algos like equihash(zcash) , and there is also Lbry and also Lyra , you can go with one card to try before building the complete machine

I am with the platform ready with the Riser, sources mobo .. everything ready, I really need only the VGA, I am searching all boards but I have not yet defined it yet.

Tell me when you found somebody who tells you what the best coin is in ! 1 - 2 ! Years.

Mining is risky. If you dont take the risk, better leave.
If you need help and didnt do your homework, better leave.

Wotan

I trade in forex and altcoins for some considerable time, mining for the last 2 years, I agree that it is not certainties, but I believe that all opinions are valid so that I can make an investment decision. There are some altcoins that keep their value and profitability for sure otherwise we would not have people mining and making a living out of it.

I believe that your arrogance and ignorance in determining that I have not done the homework, is simply a despicable opinion, if there is nothing to contribute, do not pollute the topic!

PowerShot.

You told you are mining since 2 Years and ask about what is best hashrate?
Doesnt take more than 10 secs to check at whattomine.

Wotan

The same model may have different Hashrates due to memories, ASIC quality construction, ventilation quality and hardware architecture, and we know that Whattomine does not always match reality.
That's why I requested information from those who have RIG and not people who only COMMENT what they think, but those who already have experience in what they are commenting.

I suggest that, if you can not add to the topic, there is no need to continue commenting.

I have lots of Rigs. Ok, lets stop this.
Go for Sapphire 470 / 480 or
Gigabyte G1 1070

I have MSI 470 & 480 and sapphire 470, all 8GB. The MSI stays 7-8 deg C cooler. The sapphire 470 speed on ETH is max5% lower than MSI 480 and 5-10% higher than MSI 470. Both brands are good, but based on my experience of 3-4 months with these cards, I would go with sapphire RX470 8GB for my next rig. The price in your area might be important in your decision as well.

@babaG

I think that today the most profitable are the RX 470, what makes me reflect are the 4GB x 8 GB, if I opt for the 8 GB models, in the end I will have 1 VGA less because the difference between them comes around U $$ 80 to 100, which I could buy an Rx 470 more.

Does memory make a difference in mining today?
Previously we had the problem of the DAG file but this was healed with Claymore, however I feel that the R9 280x which I have 3GB, still suffer from this problem.

The questions are, would it be worth buying a used GTX 970 (4GB) with price equal to Rx 470 (4GB)?

I also recommend the Gigabyte g1 1070. Although I have only 1 and the rest of my rigs are based on old AMD R9 2/390s (which now consume WAY too much power).

The one I have is capable of VERY high memory overclocks (+700 at least) which gives it great hashrate vs. power consumption for the many algorithms which benefit from fast memory. It is really good at ETH (30mh/s @ 100W), ZEC (440 sol/s @ 110W) and cryptonight (500h/s @ 90W but maybe capable of much more if you can find the right ccminer - I can't)). These are the ones I have tested thoroughly but I know it also can kill at some other algorithms, like Lyra2rev2, X11gost, and others.

Obviously I can't compare to other more recent cards, but I believe that 1070s in general with maintain very good resale value. Which may offset the problem that they are expensive cards compared to the AMD ones you asked about.

If I was starting out and had a decent amount of money I think I would build half of my rigs with the Gigabyte G1 gaming 1070, and the other half with whatever is the best bang for buck AMD cards right now.

I ONLY buy RX 470's for the fastest ROI, and at your budget you could build a 4 card rig with those. Go with Sapphire as they are the best board partner.

here is my 2c

1. AMD vs Nvidia
Historically AMD miner development has been faster and out earlier. Just look at Etherum, Zcash and Pascal. I never check but i think it was the same for Monero. Even today you struggle to fund the quality miners for Nvidia you can get for AMD.

2. With ROI over 12months, it is very risky to invest a lot. So the lower the Investment the better even if it means getting less Return. The return can go up or down which is where the risk is.

Depending on your country and pricing it does look like R470 4Gb is king for mining now.

But that said one can run +8 Nvidia cards on a MB with an PCI-E switch but can't do more than 7 with AMD RX cards. So lower systems overhead cost and in my opinion Nvidia is more popular with gamers so better resell value.

Only buy RX 470, even though they are near 100$ more expensive that the price I have, you can still be profitable if your electricity rate is low.

agree on the RX 470 but not on Sapphire. out 50 24 cards have been leeking cooling ooil on the RX 470 4Gb Nitros

I also have suffered from leaking oil on 8gb Sapphire Nitros, they work fine, but doesn't make them look too attractive for resale when you want to upgrade.

Yup, leaking too, but that's not oil, that's thermal grease from the pads, non conductive and not harmful for the card or any other component.

I started mining with AMD cards, I had a 290x, and then got some rx480s. but in the last 3-4 months, nvidea seems to be catching up. And though rx series is killing it for Ethereum, nvidea is at-par or even better for rest of the algos.

I just got a MSI 1070 last night and I am quite happy with it. Nvidea can mine a lot of algorithms ( ones tht are profitable ), and that makes me feel much more comfortable and future proof. As Ethereum is soon going to be POS, its best you do not place ur best bet on it.

So 1070 being the most powerfull ( expensive too ) and giving a return of  1.65USD ( average ) a day, i feel its the best choice as it saves on PCI Slot, Heat, Electricity and gives u the best ROI in long run.

I started mining with gtx 1060 and got $1 per day.

I am new to this industry.

And as for the amount of memory friends,

I'm watching some models with 3GB and 4GB, this really affects, currently I only operate with models with 3Gb, I have not had experience with models above 4GB.

What is your problem?
You have the minimum of active participation in the forum, only sucking information, in all the comments, I passed the opinion where I researched but not all the information that we search on the internet, are outdated or are wrong.
I'm asking for opinions, and this is the essence of a forum, discussing opinions of people who use a product.
I do not like to make a decision where I only have my vision, I like to listen to people.

He could restrict only his inulity to this discourse of hatred.
Keep it in place, if you are wanting to appear, put a watermelon around your neck and get out on the street.

I must say that Radeon cards are generally better suited for mining purposes. They have a problem of emitting a lot of heat and tend to work in very hot temperatures. I still insist these are better but if you put them in a board like MSI or BIOSTAR with 6 GPU slots and make sure to have 3-5 coolers as long as your PC case can take, Corsair and Cooler Master do a pretty good job.

You may say that why investing in a case when I use PCI raisers , well the answer is simple, I have tried a mining rig I build for a friend with 6 RX 480 8GB Gpu from MSI and add 5 RGB Coolers inside a Full Tower Case this friend of mine already had. Temperatures of the GPU-s are about 8-15 degree colder from what I see in youtube videos so you may want to try out this idea of me and my friend.

That sounds interesting, would be great if you could share pictures of the case mod that you did to fit 6 cards in it :)

Please tell me

1 rx 470 4gb sapphire nitro...how much watts power for mining eth ...120watts or 150watts or more or less

please tell me

and

1 power 1450watts green for 6 x sapphire rx 470 nitro 4gb and 1 rx 460 4gb nitro sapphire is enough???

please tell me please help me

What i have seen is that, memory counts but memory speed counts more. A 8GB card is nowhere even 40% faster than the 4GB, so only go for higher memory for resale value. I bought the rx 480 compared to the rx470 4GB, but the results were not really worth it compared to the price difference. Thats what I have learned. Similarly same for GTX 1060 too, the 3GB version does almost identical to the 6 GB version.

Really, clarified me friend, thank you very much for the collaboration.
Today I made the first purchase I bought 5x XFX Black (Dual Cooling) Rx 470 4G @ 7000 Mhz @ $ 243.00 Warranty 2 Years.

The Store Offer me model the MSI RADEON RX 470 VIDEO CARD ARMOR 4G OC GDDR5 256BIT i have 24h to change.

Is it worth the exchange?

Next month i will take 2x 1070 3GB.

How much power supply do I need?

How much each amd 480 need?

The specs say that it needs 500 w power supply. Do AMD 480 need 500 w power supply or just 100 w power supply each? If I have 6 AMD 480 how much power supply would I need? What about disk? Do you use SSD or HD?

Ram? is 4GB of CPU ram enough?

I do not have much experience with these brands, but I think MSI is better, though the armor series seems to have a cheaper build. But check what card has better resale in your region, also if the XFX is not OC, then you better go for the OC version, but again look around a lot of reviews of 470 here and on youtube.

I love the 1060, 3GB, even today i checked my return its earning more thn the 75USD more expensive 8GB 480s I got earlier.

No 480 needs just above 150W / card, 470 is 120W i guess, I m not sure pls check. But a 1200W Gold/Platinum should be good for 470 if you mining Zcash. Eth is more power hungry.

The RAM doesnt matter, 4 GB is enough. I run a system at even 2, and it does fine.

HDD, again you just need to run the OS, if you running Windows just get a 16 GB Flash, the cheapest option. A linux can even run on even 8GB.

When mining at full speed at stock settings, an RX 480 can consume upto 200W, and an RX 470 can consume 160W. If you are going to go the Windows route, and underclock/undervolt your cards, then target consumption of 120W per card with tweaks. If you are going to go with linux, unless you get a custom ROM made by someone else, your cards will consume 150W so plan accordingly. It is recommended to have a 20% power capacity buffer on the power supply, so for a system consuming 1000W, get a 1200W PSU.

Also, RAM does matter, go for 4GB as that is a good price performance balance, the smaller your system ram is the more the paging file is used, and it results in frequent swaps and stale shares sometimes.

As for the HDD, if you are using a plug and play OS like EthOS or SimpleMiningOS, then get a 16gb SSD. If you are using Windows, get a 64GB SSD minimum as you need to allocate 16GB to paging file which you can not do on a 32GB SSD.