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Title: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: niokobo on March 13, 2017, 06:31:46 AM
I talked to my friends about flat earth etc. and after watching youtube videos i at least think its plausible that we live on a flat earth.

However when my friends explained me why the world is flat i did my own research and i compared a few maps and watched documentaris about antarctica and after a google search something blow my mind.

Antarctica was according to google discovered 1773 by james cook

So after i was searching for maps of the 15th century i found plenty of map pictures on google where antarctica is already drawn onto those maps.

Now im neither a map guy nor do i know much about History so im thinking right now, maybe they new about antarctica in the 15 th century but they couldnt get there or its simply a lie that antarctica was discovered 1773.

Or what else could be the reason??

Antarctica discovery
https://www.google.at/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=when+was+antarctica+discovered&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=TznGWPj-EMmsU-fMm9gP

15th Century Maps
https://listofmaps.com/15th-century-map-of-the-world/

16th Century Map
http://shyamalavikas.blogspot.co.at/2012/03/world-map-16th-century.html

1508 World Map
https://traveltoeat.com/mapping-the-new-world/


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: PeterTheGrape on March 13, 2017, 06:57:23 AM
If you look at your watch, or any clock for that matter, you can see that people are able to transport themselves into the future.

I hope that helps with your understanding of science.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: niokobo on March 13, 2017, 07:30:40 AM
If you look at your watch, or any clock for that matter, you can see that people are able to transport themselves into the future.

I hope that helps with your understanding of science.

 ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 13, 2017, 08:33:54 AM
Well, discovery is a different word from seen. You cant say you discover an island because you just seen it. When you discovered it, then you did not seen it, you step on it and name it. I think they just seen the island of antartica but did not fully discovered it. Just like the discovery of Phillipines, the Spaniards seen it before it is discovered by an slave, after that they find it again and name it as Las Filipinas, were Magellan named it after their Ruler. So in the books they say Magellan discovered it and the slave just seen it.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: niokobo on March 13, 2017, 09:22:08 AM
Well, discovery is a different word from seen. You cant say you discover an island because you just seen it. When you discovered it, then you did not seen it, you step on it and name it. I think they just seen the island of antartica but did not fully discovered it. Just like the discovery of Phillipines, the Spaniards seen it before it is discovered by an slave, after that they find it again and name it as Las Filipinas, were Magellan named it after their Ruler. So in the books they say Magellan discovered it and the slave just seen it.

so you basically say when they drew the map in the 15 th century they already knew about antarctica and where it was and the size (most drawings are similliar to todays drawings of antarctica)
but they didnt discover it until 1773?
But doesnt it count as discovered if you know where and what it is and you can even map it out??
 ??? ???

Im sure Neil Armstron and Buzz aldrin arent named the discoverers of the moon - if they actually were on it.

So the moon was a long time discovered before stepped on, so why is it that it says antarctica was discovered in 1773 when there are clearly maps showing antartcia in the 14 and 15th century.

Im sure they couldnt draw any maps before 1492 of the USA because it wasnt discovered noone knew about it

see the point im trying to make


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: MiSKLaCH on March 13, 2017, 10:43:23 AM
I talked to my friends about flat earth etc. and after watching youtube videos i at least think its plausible that we live on a flat earth.

https://i.imgur.com/imYSndW.jpg

No further investigation is necessary. ::)


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: Actualiteit on March 13, 2017, 11:25:53 AM
And again the Flat Earthers find a victim. Cube Earth is the future, we live on the Western Cubisphere where other CubeClans are not able to find us due to our central portals being broken by 1000's of years of neglect.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 13, 2017, 12:29:31 PM
Well, discovery is a different word from seen. You cant say you discover an island because you just seen it. When you discovered it, then you did not seen it, you step on it and name it. I think they just seen the island of antartica but did not fully discovered it. Just like the discovery of Phillipines, the Spaniards seen it before it is discovered by an slave, after that they find it again and name it as Las Filipinas, were Magellan named it after their Ruler. So in the books they say Magellan discovered it and the slave just seen it.

so you basically say when they drew the map in the 15 th century they already knew about antarctica and where it was and the size (most drawings are similliar to todays drawings of antarctica)
but they didnt discover it until 1773?
But doesnt it count as discovered if you know where and what it is and you can even map it out??
 ??? ???

Im sure Neil Armstron and Buzz aldrin arent named the discoverers of the moon - if they actually were on it.

So the moon was a long time discovered before stepped on, so why is it that it says antarctica was discovered in 1773 when there are clearly maps showing antartcia in the 14 and 15th century.

Im sure they couldnt draw any maps before 1492 of the USA because it wasnt discovered noone knew about it

see the point im trying to make
I think you are not just reading the articles carefully. The rounding of the Cape of Good Hope and Cape Horn in the 15th and 16th centuries proved that Terra Australis Incognita ("Unknown Southern Land"), if it existed, was a continent in its own right https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Antarctica (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Antarctica)you can click that link to read the whole article. They knew that it is there but nobody just want to go there because it is dangerous.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: AleSergio on March 13, 2017, 12:55:52 PM
If you will look on history Antarctica was discovered, also by Greeks, someone from greatest scientiest of that time also told, that there is a land somewhere to the south, where everything is green and etc. So it could be that a lot of time ago Greeks used to have Antarctica on their ma also.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: Chin Cheng on March 14, 2017, 01:03:16 PM
You cannot have a definite answer regarding history.If something is found now then the history you know right now wont have any value. So people might have visited Antarctica before that but you do not have a definite answer regarding that and unless you have any evidence the history which is written now stands.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: BADecker on March 14, 2017, 06:45:24 PM
Maybe it was 1773 that they discovered it on the old map.     ;D


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: BADecker on March 14, 2017, 06:50:55 PM
Look. Neal Adams has shown us that all the land masses on the earth were right together in the past. Modern science is so full of crap that it is just plain stupid.

Neal Adams - Science: 01 - Conspiracy: Earth is Growing!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oJfBSc6e7QQ/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=246&h=138&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=6ly-mKtfs3I4u1TojmhbLNXesBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&list=PL5A1097F4E958728D (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&list=PL5A1097F4E958728D)

8)


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: ovvidiy on March 14, 2017, 10:11:06 PM
You cannot have a definite answer regarding history.If something is found now then the history you know right now wont have any value. So people might have visited Antarctica before that but you do not have a definite answer regarding that and unless you have any evidence the history which is written now stands.
As we already know that the history is always written by the winners, so what we know is not always true. Maybe it was all quite the opposite.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: pokerplayer on March 14, 2017, 10:19:18 PM
Kek they could discover it before like example America is first dicovered by Vikings not by person which we learn in school so many things are discovered before we learn in school.


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: niokobo on March 15, 2017, 06:53:20 PM
You cannot have a definite answer regarding history.If something is found now then the history you know right now wont have any value. So people might have visited Antarctica before that but you do not have a definite answer regarding that and unless you have any evidence the history which is written now stands.
As we already know that the history is always written by the winners, so what we know is not always true. Maybe it was all quite the opposite.

but what to belive in if everything is a lie??


Title: Re: Antarctica was discovered 1773 but why is it on maps of the 15th century
Post by: TooQik on March 15, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
I talked to my friends about flat earth etc. and after watching youtube videos i at least think its plausible that we live on a flat earth.

However when my friends explained me why the world is flat i did my own research and i compared a few maps and watched documentaris about antarctica and after a google search something blow my mind.

Antarctica was according to google discovered 1773 by james cook

So after i was searching for maps of the 15th century i found plenty of map pictures on google where antarctica is already drawn onto those maps.

Now im neither a map guy nor do i know much about History so im thinking right now, maybe they new about antarctica in the 15 th century but they couldnt get there or its simply a lie that antarctica was discovered 1773.

Or what else could be the reason??

Antarctica discovery
https://www.google.at/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=when+was+antarctica+discovered&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=TznGWPj-EMmsU-fMm9gP

15th Century Maps
https://listofmaps.com/15th-century-map-of-the-world/

16th Century Map
http://shyamalavikas.blogspot.co.at/2012/03/world-map-16th-century.html

1508 World Map
https://traveltoeat.com/mapping-the-new-world/

If you take a good look at those maps most of them don't show Australia or New Zealand. The land mass in the south is basically Antarctica, Australia and New Zealand as one single land mass, so while the land might have been sighted and included in maps it wasn't actually discovered to be separate land masses until later.