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Title: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: niokobo on March 13, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
Is there a way to create a bitcoin transaction map for specific industries

for example how many bitcoins/day month year are into
gambling, retail, darknet/drug/illicit, how many coins are lost etc??

Somehow i think its not possible because thats the point of bitcoin in a way to be ananoymous but there should be some numbers around to put statistic on a map like http://fiatleak.com/


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: achow101 on March 13, 2017, 01:22:26 PM
You would need to know what industry each address corresponds to, and that is something that can't really be found out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: Senor.Bla on March 17, 2017, 05:29:50 PM
This is possible to some extend and has been done before. Bitcoin is not anonymous, it is pseudonymous so together with the blockchain you can recognize some of the bigger players like pools and exchanges and so on, but obviously not all. Google bitcoin mapping, transactions mapping and stuff like that. You should find something.


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: Iranus on March 17, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
This is possible to some extend and has been done before. Bitcoin is not anonymous, it is pseudonymous so together with the blockchain you can recognize some of the bigger players like pools and exchanges and so on, but obviously not all. Google bitcoin mapping, transactions mapping and stuff like that. You should find something.
No, it's impossible.  It doesn't matter whether Bitcoin is anonymous or pseudonymous because the pseudonymn is different for every transaction in most cases, or at least different for every new sender.

All you would be able to do is search for the revenues of specific sites by talking to them and trying to deduce the percentages based on a sample size and its relevance to the market cap.  It wouldn't be accurate, but it would be as close as you could get.


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: Senor.Bla on March 17, 2017, 06:16:22 PM
This is possible to some extend and has been done before. Bitcoin is not anonymous, it is pseudonymous so together with the blockchain you can recognize some of the bigger players like pools and exchanges and so on, but obviously not all. Google bitcoin mapping, transactions mapping and stuff like that. You should find something.
No, it's impossible.  It doesn't matter whether Bitcoin is anonymous or pseudonymous because the pseudonymn is different for every transaction in most cases, or at least different for every new sender.

All you would be able to do is search for the revenues of specific sites by talking to them and trying to deduce the percentages based on a sample size and its relevance to the market cap.  It wouldn't be accurate, but it would be as close as you could get.
Let u stake Wikileaks for example. They have an Bitcoin address and it is 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v There you can see all the transaction of the last 6 years. Now you just have to do the same for other services. Big data analysis can also help a big deal. Like i said it before you will not get all, but it is possible to some extend.


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: JanpriX on March 19, 2017, 12:58:11 AM
Is there a way to create a bitcoin transaction map for specific industries

for example how many bitcoins/day month year are into
gambling, retail, darknet/drug/illicit, how many coins are lost etc??

Somehow i think its not possible because thats the point of bitcoin in a way to be ananoymous but there should be some numbers around to put statistic on a map like http://fiatleak.com/

Well, first and foremost, I'm not an expert when it comes to data mapping or in this case, transaction mapping. But based from your question, I must say that this is somewhat doable as long as you have the BTC addresses of those industries. You can't get all of them but if you work hard and get their respected BTC addresses, you might get some data to work with. We all know that BTC should be anonymous but we also know that there's a way to track the address of a certain someone through the Blockchain. You may not get all the details that your are looking for but it is possible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: HI-TEC99 on March 19, 2017, 08:35:56 PM
Take a look at this website.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/

It can guess which service an address belongs to, and covers all the big exchanges and gambling sites. The site's creator started an address mapping business which charges a fee, and he often lets his free site get out of sync with the blockchain. It can't often provide information about new addresses anymore, but it can tell you any service an old address belonged to.

Sometimes it's a week out of sync, but it seems to be in sync today.


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: fathur.aza on March 31, 2017, 12:17:13 PM
industry mapping there must be address to take on the parties


Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: buwaytress on March 31, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
This type of mapping could also inadvertently connect false dots, if I understand the term correctly. For example, all the bitcoins I have ever owned or currently own were given to me, never mined. Simple taint analysis could connect me even 2 links away to say gambling sites, porn, simply by getting paid with other people's previously owned bitcoins, no?



Title: Re: Bitcoin transaction mapping
Post by: Cereberus on March 31, 2017, 07:51:57 PM
Mapping surely is possible but as has been already said only to a certain extent. Websites like walletexplorer.com (http://walletexplorer.com) let's you identify which addresses correspond to the same wallet by linking spending of 1 or more addresses as the send address in a transaction.

Coingaming.io a big gambling industry has all it's wallet addresses listed in the wallet explorer website. Of course they may be having more addresses but you can have a rough idea of how many bitcoins they move in and out quite easily. Only this though.

However in the end this means nothing, as many of the addresses are deposit addresses for the users and some of them are addresses which withdrawals are sent from. You cannot link other users bitcoin to such casino for example.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/CoinGaming.io (https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/CoinGaming.io)

CoinGaming.io has been good enough to share all of its wallets with wallet explorer website.

Total addresses 412,395 which is an amazing number that shows the potential of such website.