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Title: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: Abo Adamson on April 21, 2013, 08:49:57 PM
What is Ripple and how does it compare to Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: yakka34 on April 21, 2013, 09:54:59 PM
Ripple is like PayPal. It sends money globally, unlike bitcoin it can't be mined.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: GerMG on April 21, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
ripple is a scamm. my opinion


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: aandcmedia on April 21, 2013, 10:27:49 PM
Isn't it based around the same tech? Also I know they got caught storing passwords in plain text... salt and hash at least.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: tahar on April 21, 2013, 11:22:42 PM
ripple is a scamm. my opinion

Quite a few people thinking this to be honest. Not so sure myself... need to educate myself further.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: tmbp on April 22, 2013, 12:43:31 AM
Ripple claim to be decentralized about 100 times through their site even though it is completely false, only a fool would purchase XLR and witness it suffer the same fate as e-gold.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: CRkfx1 on April 22, 2013, 02:03:32 AM
Ripple's website seems VERY vague about how the whole thing works.  I seriously like the idea of a p2p exchange, but I hate that 100 billion (I think) XRP's are pre-mined.  I was about to jump in, but decided against it.

Checkout http://ripplescam.org/ (http://ripplescam.org/).


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: hl5460 on April 22, 2013, 02:57:37 AM
Ripple's website seems VERY vague about how the whole thing works.  I seriously like the idea of a p2p exchange, but I hate that 100 billion (I think) XRP's are pre-mined.  I was about to jump in, but decided against it.

Checkout http://ripplescam.org/ (http://ripplescam.org/).


Good point. any centralized shit is scamm


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: Si Robertson on April 22, 2013, 02:59:30 AM
What is going on with all these geek currency people?


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: Gyrsur on April 22, 2013, 03:01:55 AM
Bitcoin is better with Ripple and Ripple is better with Bitcoin. it's so easy!


Keep up the good work, guys.

yeah, indeed! --> https://ripple.com/blog/interview-with-jed-mccaleb-inventor-of-the-ripple-protocol-and-co-founder-of-opencoin/ (https://ripple.com/blog/interview-with-jed-mccaleb-inventor-of-the-ripple-protocol-and-co-founder-of-opencoin/)


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: rudychicoDEA6 on April 22, 2013, 04:32:08 AM
they can co-exist (BTC and XRP)
the ripple network is just great to exchange one coins for another. if we have to pay small fees to use it, well, it's understandable they have to make some profit. I think opencoin keeping 20% of the currency to their use is a bit too much


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: ebildude123 on April 22, 2013, 04:38:42 AM
Ripple is a scam premined centralized trash coin. :P


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: pcrsweetness on April 22, 2013, 04:47:01 AM
We don't really know yet but the price of ripples has gone up someting like 1000% in the last couple of months so it is certainly worth watching and some people find it to have value even though some others do not.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: Si Robertson on April 22, 2013, 04:47:35 AM
Why do we need other currency when we have btc!


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: bobbahope on April 22, 2013, 04:47:43 AM
Ripple is basically just an exchange.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: yacare on April 28, 2013, 09:07:21 AM
Ripple's website seems VERY vague about how the whole thing works.  I seriously like the idea of a p2p exchange, but I hate that 100 billion (I think) XRP's are pre-mined.  I was about to jump in, but decided against it.

Checkout http://ripplescam.org/ (http://ripplescam.org/).


Good info. Thank you!


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: mmeijeri on April 28, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
they can co-exist (BTC and XRP)
the ripple network is just great to exchange one coins for another. if we have to pay small fees to use it, well, it's understandable they have to make some profit. I think opencoin keeping 20% of the currency to their use is a bit too much

The fees are really tiny if you don't use gateways. And those gateways aren't even owned by OpenCoin, though the early ones may be paying OpenCoin fees themselves. Once the code is open sourced anyone can start a gateway, subject to local regulations.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: Taccomc on April 28, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
just found this proxy buying service.  You can use either ripple or bitcoin to purchase on amazon.com

http://bitcurl.com


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: silverboyp on April 28, 2013, 09:35:50 AM
just found this proxy buying service.  You can use either ripple or bitcoin to purchase on amazon.com

http://bitcurl.com
Looks interesting!


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: Folko85 on April 28, 2013, 09:48:34 AM
Ripple is certainly a good alternative to put your $ in sometimes vs bitcoin.  I am new to it but I like what I see so far.


Title: Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin
Post by: herzmeister on April 28, 2013, 10:13:48 AM
Ripple as a concept as a peer-to-peer credit/lending network or digital hawala has been around since 2004 and as such is certainly not a scam.

There are also (partial) implementations by different people e.g. at classic.ripplepay.com or villages.cc

The XRP currency doesn't have much to do with this original concept.

The implementation at ripple.com by OpenCoin Inc promises to be more distributed once the server code has been opened, but certainly it's problematic that they start off in a more centralized manner. But the network will be able to work without any central authority like OpenCoin Inc behind it.

The XRP currency in this implementation just exists, "because they can", and are to be seen like post office stamps. A little amount of them is required for every transaction for anti-spam and security reasons, and they will be destroyed (not flow to OpenCoin Inc or anyone else).

I wouldn't say it's a scam, they're very open about their business model. Satoshi effectively "pre-mined" a lot of coins for himself as well, so with ripple.com it's just more official. They want to do without proof-of-work and mining because they think it's wasteful, their consensus algorithm doesn't require it, so the only way to issue their XRPs is by giving them away.

Bitcoin and the Ripple XRPs may compete in a way, but one thing that Bitcoin can do what XRPs can't is enable much more privacy. You'd mostly only have one Ripple account or address, so all your balances will be pretty much out in the open. Many privacy-unaware folks who already put everything on Facebook etc probably don't care much about this though.