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Title: Trust Issues
Post by: bicepbeast on March 14, 2017, 02:01:11 PM
So I do most of my activity behind TOR.

When I signed up here, I had to pay a fee as I signed up behind TOR as no doubt some numpties scammed some people or something. I had no problem paying the fees as they were tiny.

Now I find that I can't post a lot of the time as people are posting from the same IP as me which means I have to wait like 5 minutes... However 'this lessens with more trust'.

So I don't want to move away from TOR - yes I know there are some VPNs out there which have no logs policy, and my actual set up is TOR over no logs VPN.

How do I get more of this trust? It's getting annoying trying to post, not being able to and having to try and wait it out or reload TOR.

As I go to post this thread, I wonder how many times I will need to reload TOR before I can post.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: umaOuma on March 14, 2017, 02:14:07 PM
It has nothing to do with trust , time between posts action depends on your rank and it will reduced as your rank increase
I've adjusted the limits to make spamming more difficult.

Activity   Min. seconds between post actions   Max PM recipients   PMs per hour
036035
1674530
3060560
6030560
1001210120
2001015120
300820120


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: bL4nkcode on March 14, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
The one you are saying that you have to pay before you can post is, you registered on this forum using an IP address that has an evil points, maybe those IP was banned or blacklisted on this forum, the reason is the VPN you used, thats why you have to pay for it or you have to register again without using a VPN. And the 5 minutes interval after posting from your IP was affected and also with your rank and to avoid spamming explained by @umaOuma


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: bicepbeast on March 14, 2017, 02:30:24 PM
But it's also linked to IP too right?

When I'm posting on TOR, and reload - then I can magically post.... Or is this purely coincidence - and it's based just on rep and length of time as per the table?


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: bL4nkcode on March 14, 2017, 02:48:29 PM
But it's also linked to IP too right?

When I'm posting on TOR, and reload - then I can magically post.... Or is this purely coincidence - and it's based just on rep and length of time as per the table?
Though I dont know how TOR works of changing its IP address but that's the most cleared answered as your current activity have the max time interval before posting again from the IP you used to post but as the ip changed on TOR that's why you can post again without waiting those interval.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: sevenrustlust on March 14, 2017, 05:13:24 PM
the more you stay logged in and you post the more you gain activity. But trust is another story


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 15, 2017, 03:52:13 AM
make a new profile and not use the tor network while signing up.... after you gain jr by posting a load of crap anywhere on the forum log out and log back in with tor and this issue should not pose itself again


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: kolloh on March 15, 2017, 05:25:55 AM
Yeah, the posting restrictions get removed as your activity goes up by posting over time.

Check out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.0 for a bit more info on it.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Naoko on March 15, 2017, 05:33:38 AM
the more you stay logged in and you post the more you gain activity. But trust is another story

the bolded part doesn't matter, even the total time you logged in is 1,000,000 days but if you are not posting you won't get anywhere, only posting within activity periods will help


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: xypos on March 15, 2017, 05:35:21 AM
So I do most of my activity behind TOR.

When I signed up here, I had to pay a fee as I signed up behind TOR as no doubt some numpties scammed some people or something. I had no problem paying the fees as they were tiny.

Now I find that I can't post a lot of the time as people are posting from the same IP as me which means I have to wait like 5 minutes... However 'this lessens with more trust'.

So I don't want to move away from TOR - yes I know there are some VPNs out there which have no logs policy, and my actual set up is TOR over no logs VPN.

How do I get more of this trust? It's getting annoying trying to post, not being able to and having to try and wait it out or reload TOR.

As I go to post this thread, I wonder how many times I will need to reload TOR before I can post.

All TOR IPs are subject to "points of evil" on this forum as people could just spam creating newbie accounts on the TOR network and spam useless content or advertising content onto the forum, which is something we are against.

As people above me has said, this has nothing to do with using TOR. Once you get above 16 activity points, your time per post limit drops dramatically. Again, this is as a result of people abusing the forum by posting spammy content as a newbie.

If you want to avoid paying the fee, you can always sign up under a normal network connection, or just go connect to a public wifi or computer. Once you create your bitcointalk account, you can then proceed to using that account on TOR without having to pay anything.

Hopefully i helped.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 15, 2017, 08:36:53 AM
what most people dont know is that there are several proxy pokers that penetrate the tor system and do a excellent job of resolving your actual ip without you even knowing it. many websites that reject tor connections"for any of a plethora of reasons" actually run these proxy revolvers without  the client ever knowing it ! 999% of the tor users have or will use the situation with bad intent at least one time as everyone has or will! the only way to stay off the radar is to not use the internet period! but once your online; safety is a joke on you if you really need to know the truth!


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Vod on March 15, 2017, 08:40:38 AM
So I don't want to move away from TOR - yes I know there are some VPNs out there which have no logs policy, and my actual set up is TOR over no logs VPN.

How do I get more of this trust?

If you want people to trust you, take off your mask.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: adidas on March 15, 2017, 08:46:44 AM
For a better experience use normal browsers. The reason why you post with TOR when you press the reload button is because TOR automatically changes IP very often in order to protect your anonymity.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 15, 2017, 08:54:02 AM
webmasters use api's to update their block lists something like this one......
tor is your mask but it also masks you from seeing who is looking at you with your mask screened off......



https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ (https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/)




Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Velkro on March 15, 2017, 08:55:08 AM
So I do most of my activity behind TOR.
When I signed up here, I had to pay a fee as I signed up behind TOR as no doubt some numpties scammed some people or something. I had no problem paying the fees as they were tiny.
Now I find that I can't post a lot of the time as people are posting from the same IP as me which means I have to wait like 5 minutes... However 'this lessens with more trust'.
So I don't want to move away from TOR - yes I know there are some VPNs out there which have no logs policy, and my actual set up is TOR over no logs VPN.
How do I get more of this trust? It's getting annoying trying to post, not being able to and having to try and wait it out or reload TOR.
As I go to post this thread, I wonder how many times I will need to reload TOR before I can post.
You have trust issues in the first place. I mean why to use tor for posting on public forum? I mean its not guns & murder forum, its a bitcoin forum man :D.
So you have more problems than flood limits on this forum, TOR is known from slow loading page speeds depends on nodes you get in your path.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Iranus on March 18, 2017, 02:38:59 PM
So I do most of my activity behind TOR.

When I signed up here, I had to pay a fee as I signed up behind TOR as no doubt some numpties scammed some people or something. I had no problem paying the fees as they were tiny.

Now I find that I can't post a lot of the time as people are posting from the same IP as me which means I have to wait like 5 minutes... However 'this lessens with more trust'.

So I don't want to move away from TOR - yes I know there are some VPNs out there which have no logs policy, and my actual set up is TOR over no logs VPN.

How do I get more of this trust? It's getting annoying trying to post, not being able to and having to try and wait it out or reload TOR.

As I go to post this thread, I wonder how many times I will need to reload TOR before I can post.

All TOR IPs are subject to "points of evil" on this forum as people could just spam creating newbie accounts on the TOR network and spam useless content or advertising content onto the forum, which is something we are against.

As people above me has said, this has nothing to do with using TOR. Once you get above 16 activity points, your time per post limit drops dramatically. Again, this is as a result of people abusing the forum by posting spammy content as a newbie.

If you want to avoid paying the fee, you can always sign up under a normal network connection, or just go connect to a public wifi or computer. Once you create your bitcointalk account, you can then proceed to using that account on TOR without having to pay anything.

Hopefully i helped.
True.  If you're concerned about your anonymity or security, you could always connect to a normal network and then go to a public wifi network while using your VPN.  This way, if anyone gets past your VPN and finds your real IP it'll still be in a public place and no one will find out where you live or be able to track you down.

However, as far as I know this is just post restrictions on new members - people with a very small amount of activity can only post once every 6 minutes.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: bohr on March 19, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
But it's also linked to IP too right?

When I'm posting on TOR, and reload - then I can magically post.... Or is this purely coincidence - and it's based just on rep and length of time as per the table?
When you have a new account you can only post once every 6 minutes that time decreases after your first 15 posts there is a formula for that, an yes it is linked to your IP so I suppose that what it happens is that when you reload the page with TOR your IP changes and you are able to post without waiting but refrain from doing that since you are almost out of the newbie jail.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: JavaLove on March 19, 2017, 08:33:47 PM
A few different things with your question here. For starters, it's not the trust that you are concerned about. On the forum, this is a completely different thing. If you want to be more reliable on the Forum, then you can just disable your masking device and use your real IP.

However, in order to be able to post more often and at a faster rate you must develop a higher ranking on the forum. I am not sure of the exact numbers off the top of my head, but you'll be able to easily find them with a little bit of research.

In order to get a higher rank, you must post more frequently on topics (meaning not off topic). The score updates every once in a while and sooner or later you'll be able to gain the privileges that comes with having a higher rank.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 19, 2017, 08:51:33 PM
I dont think that using Tor and having such IPs or problems about it will not affect gaining your trust. As you said, it is just gaining problem from your posting. That is the problem having such IPs.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Kprawn on March 20, 2017, 04:33:56 PM
A few different things with your question here. For starters, it's not the trust that you are concerned about. On the forum, this is a completely different thing. If you want to be more reliable on the Forum, then you can just disable your masking device and use your real IP.


Not good advice at all.... The forum can quickly become a very hostile place, when you say something that someone else do not agree with. Some

people will even try to dox you to find incriminating evidence on you, to attack you. I use several methods to hide my real IP for this very reason.

Things can get out of hand, very quickly. Use every tools you can to stay anonymous... { some governments even target their own citizens }  >:(

Use OS like Tails to make it even more difficult for people to trace you.  ;)


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Slark on March 20, 2017, 08:04:16 PM
Op, most of the problems you were talking about will disappear when you will reach higher member status.
These are just restrictions put on newbie accounts and not something related to TOR network.
If you value your privacy above else stick to TOR, but AFAIK every TOR IP is burdened with units of evil.
I would personally switch to VPN provider instead of TOR, it will give you sufficient privacy options (at least for my standards).


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Janation on March 21, 2017, 10:10:49 AM
So I do most of my activity behind TOR.
When I signed up here, I had to pay a fee as I signed up behind TOR as no doubt some numpties scammed some people or something. I had no problem paying the fees as they were tiny.
Now I find that I can't post a lot of the time as people are posting from the same IP as me which means I have to wait like 5 minutes... However 'this lessens with more trust'.
So I don't want to move away from TOR - yes I know there are some VPNs out there which have no logs policy, and my actual set up is TOR over no logs VPN.
How do I get more of this trust? It's getting annoying trying to post, not being able to and having to try and wait it out or reload TOR.
As I go to post this thread, I wonder how many times I will need to reload TOR before I can post.
You have trust issues in the first place. I mean why to use tor for posting on public forum? I mean its not guns & murder forum, its a bitcoin forum man :D.
So you have more problems than flood limits on this forum, TOR is known from slow loading page speeds depends on nodes you get in your path.

Yeah, if you want to be anonymous here in the forum, you can just avoid linking any important infos in your account, because people here do really not care about you, unless you got many bitcoins in your wallet.


Title: Re: Trust Issues
Post by: Mike Mayor on March 26, 2017, 01:05:48 PM
Op, most of the problems you were talking about will disappear when you will reach higher member status.
These are just restrictions put on newbie accounts and not something related to TOR network.
If you value your privacy above else stick to TOR, but AFAIK every TOR IP is burdened with units of evil.
I would personally switch to VPN provider instead of TOR, it will give you sufficient privacy options (at least for my standards).

Well for is really another layer of protection you are ment to use vpn with it. I myself use a VPN and DNS. The reason is quite simple. I don't like the idea of my isp having access to what I do online. What I do is my business. You don't need people snooping around to try get you into trouble. I also use it to bypass blocked website and circumvent Hulu or Netflix. But using all that stuff here for a forum is over kill. If you must a VPN is fine. My VPN is on always. Though if you use dsn it's faster since VPN encrypts everything.