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Title: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: pigeonbb3 on March 15, 2017, 03:15:14 AM
The empire strikes back. As the people rise and gain the majority of miners who have decided, Bitcoin Core developers have gone on the attack.

A bug on the overlay xThin client has been exploited, rather than professionally and rationally revealed, to send Bitcoin Unlimited nodes down crashing. Miners are not affected as far as I am aware, but non-mining nodes are coming down like a rock.
The story is developing. Bitcoin Unlimited developers are far too busy addressing the matter and coming up with a solution to answer us or the public at this point in time, but we wrote just hours before this attack that Bitcoin Core supporters were threatening with bug exploits. Specifically, a person who goes by the handle of “ciphera” stated:


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“Running my fuzzer on the diffs BU have from Core, and have already some crashes. Hopefully some of them are exploitable. Going to collect as many zero-days to release at the most opportune time possible.”

I’ve been under the impression, and somewhat taken for granted, that Ciphera is Eric Lombrozo, a prominent Bitcoin Core developer and a spokesperson for the Bitcoin Core client.

He has been a very vocal supporter of Bitcoin Core and his company, Ciphrex, has vocally advocated for full blocks and a settlement system. Now, he appears to have fallen so low as to attack bitcoin.

He is using the playbook of none other than John Dillon, who himself says “my day job involves intelligence, and I’m in a relatively high position.” In a leaked and authenticated conversation back in 2013 between Peter Todd and John Dillon where they discuss “If I were the US Government and had co-opted the “core” Bitcoin dev team, you know what I’d do?” – Dillon states:

“Every time anyone tried mining with [an alternative client], I’d use my knowledge of all the ways they are incompatible to fork them, making it clear they can’t be trusted for mining…. all I would have to do to keep them marginalized and the majority of hashing power using the approved official implementation is slip the odd consensus bug into their code.”

After four years, we now have Bitcoin Core developers – who have increased transaction fees to be uncompetitive with even PayPal, who have created transaction delays that cause high frustration for users – unashamedly attack the people’s money.

Bitcoin Core, you behave worse than standing armies. You wish to imprison us. You wish to chain us. You ban us, you censor us, you attack us. You wish to centralize bitcoin in your own hands where you can use the bugs you yourselves have probably sneaked in the bitcoin clients as a means of control.

You can’t win. Bitcoin will pass this test. Bitcoin will withstand this attack. This artificial wall will be brought down, whether in bitcoin itself or through another, perhaps better, digital currency. These chains will be broken. Liberty, if history has any say, will triumph.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in the article are solely that of the author and do not represent those of, nor should they be attributed to CCN.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-developers-attack-bitcoin-unlimited/


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: gmaxwell on March 15, 2017, 03:18:05 AM
This post is a dirty fucking lie.


Every Bitcoin user should be outraged at this libel.

BU shipped vulnerable software. BU disclosed their vulnerablity in public. Random people on the internet broke their shit.

Now the BU org claims "Bitcoin Core" did it?

FUCKING BULLSHIT.

The only thing contributors to Bitcoin Core have done here is gone "WTF".


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: Holliday on March 15, 2017, 07:17:41 AM
This post is a dirty fucking lie.


Every Bitcoin user should be outraged at this libel.

BU shipped vulnerable software. BU disclosed their vulnerablity in public. Random people on the internet broke their shit.

Now the BU org claims "Bitcoin Core" did it?

FUCKING BULLSHIT.

The only thing contributors to Bitcoin Core have done here is gone "WTF".

Don't worry, we are outraged. Anyone who followed the timeline of these events can clearly see that this article is nothing but malicious spin.

It's really phenomenal how they have the gall to twist BU's vulnerability (and their handling of it) into "Core is the devil".

In my opinion, this propaganda (what else can you call it?) is the real attack and anyone pushing this narrative is actually trying to harm Bitcoin.


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: notthematrix on March 15, 2017, 08:05:24 AM
Again crytocoinews!!!
What do you expect? first lying abiout 40% , now this...
If you make bad code you lose! its that simple... they lost!
the number of BU clients on coindance is a joke!
https://coin.dance/nodes/unlimited (https://coin.dance/nodes/unlimited)

compared to core clients https://coin.dance/nodes (https://coin.dance/nodes)
this is what a losing team does!
it revers to dirty tricks and propaganda.


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: notthematrix on March 15, 2017, 08:08:49 AM
and it looks that not many  people really care about BU http://bitcoinspot.nl/menu-wisselkoersen/bitcoin-wisselkoers-euro (http://bitcoinspot.nl/menu-wisselkoersen/bitcoin-wisselkoers-euro) :)



Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: cr1776 on March 15, 2017, 12:21:30 PM
The BU people must be in a real panic to have to push falsehoods like this. If you look at the timelines, their claims don't add up.  Publishing a fix on github and not thinking that there are people who will exploit it is just stupid.


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: BitHodler on March 15, 2017, 01:25:30 PM
The BU people must be in a real panic to have to push falsehoods like this. If you look at the timelines, their claims don't add up.  Publishing a fix on github and not thinking that there are people who will exploit it is just stupid.
It's not for nothing that BU only enjoys support from paid shills and drama seekers. No one seriously would support something from outside that is looking to force through its will on Bitcoin.

BU has proven several times now that it is run by a bunch of amateurs. All pools signalling support for BU are working against Bitcoin.

Bitcoin needs to meet its demand in form of larger blocks. I don't say SegWit is the perfect solution, but it at least allows Bitcoin to continue growing without an alternative side looking for a "hostile takeover".


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: Carlton Banks on March 15, 2017, 01:51:02 PM
I'm telling you all now: we must do something with this outrage other than speak it out loud, then invite the coyotes in for tea and cake and a nice chat



We cannot sit by as passive protagonists where the aggressor's sole intent is to harm and disrupt, we must become the preemptive antagonistic force in order to stop these coyotes from tearing the network and the community apart.

These people will not stop, they will ratchet up the tension and the propaganda, and they almost certainly have cleverly prepared multi stage plans, not just using the Bitcoin community, but using society at large to act against us

Do not forget the articles in The Guardian and The Economist reporting on XT, replete with Gavin and Mike Hearn passing themselves off as gracious gentlemen who just want the best for everyone, kissing babies etc. They can, and will, fight even dirtier than that (labeling people who see through these rhetorical tricks as "crazy paranoid Bitcoiner nut" is an obvious starting point)


We must act, to remove miners working against Bitcoin from the network. I don't want their hashrate if it means paying the fascist establishment to protect us against the fascist establishment, it's self contradictory and no different to the principles that dominate our lives already


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: TraderTimm on March 15, 2017, 03:41:15 PM
This "article" is a stinking piece of shit.

Core actually suggested fixes for this flaw, and were IGNORED. The Bitcoin Unavailable devs (yes, this is their new name - their software is a dumpster fire) are a bunch of amateurs compared to the Core team. The node-crashing flaw existed in the BU code for over a YEAR. There are MORE EXPLOITS lurking too, thanks to the BU devs sloppy implementations.

Anyone writing that Core "attacked" BU is a fucking idiot at best, and at worst -- A goddamned liar. The only thing that "attacked" BU was their own incompetence.


Title: Re: [2017-03-15]Bitcoin Core Developers Attack Bitcoin Unlimited
Post by: Kprawn on March 15, 2017, 04:25:02 PM
The fact remains... A FATAL flaw in the code was exposed and the nodes {centralization} would have been seriously exploited, if this was

accepted. Could you even consider what the implication of this would have been, if someone exploited this bug? We all know BU supporters will

ignore this and shift the blame towards Bitcoin Core developers. What a fkup this would have been!!!! ::)