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Title: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 06:11:57 AM
What i see in Altcoin space last days is absolute insanity...
Investors puting money whenever green color shows 10+.

Let's be real do ethereum will ever be a payment system?

No

Do ethereum will ever become digital gold like Bitcoin?

No

The purpose of ethereum is not to become an alternative currency and that's why you never see ethereum integrated in your local shop.

Do you think that you will use ethereum as a token and gass for contracts?

I don't think so, it's valuable for developers, but not for average investors.

Let's analyse and ask questions.

Who are working to become better?
Who innovates?
Who are game changers?
Who stops progressing?

We have allot of factors that determines the future of altcoin.

What ethereum is doing is only fixing bugs and attracting more ignorant sheepless investors.

What Bitcoin is doing is not respecting my experience, users experience, i have send 15k in Bitcoin and i paid almost 200$.

If Bitcoin would have what Dash have, i would keep using Bitcoin.

Dash deserves to be much more respected in forum.







Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: thepo1m on March 16, 2017, 06:26:16 AM
If bankers are pumping this, then this is just the begining of the price rise


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 06:38:37 AM
If bankers are pumping this, then this is just the begining of the price rise
They are doing this because they compete for investors, businesses compete for investors, countries compete for investors...
I am writing this because people just follow the herd with no analysis.

Ethereum don't have value for average users and if it's not valuable for average users it's worthless.
Maybe you can take profit from this vawe, but i will not repeat my mistake with Ethereum after the Dao crash.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Minecache on March 16, 2017, 07:13:18 AM
What i see in Altcoin space last days is absolute insanity...
Investors puting money whenever green color shows 10+.

Let's be real do ethereum will ever be a payment system?

No

Do ethereum will ever become digital gold like Bitcoin?

No

The purpose of ethereum is not to become an alternative currency and that's why you never see ethereum integrated in your local shop.

Do you think that you will use ethereum as a token and gass for contracts?

I don't think so, it's valuable for developers, but not for average investors.

Let's analyse and ask questions.

Who are working to become better?
Who innovates?
Who are game changers?
Who stops progressing?

We have allot of factors that determines the future of altcoin.

What ethereum is doing is only fixing bugs and attracting more ignorant sheepless investors.

What Bitcoin is doing is not respecting my experience, users experience, i have send 15k in Bitcoin and i paid almost 200$.

If Bitcoin would have what Dash have, i would keep using Bitcoin.

Dash deserves to be much more respected in forum.






You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 07:16:39 AM

You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.

I am not a Dash shill, i invested in Ethereum ago also, but i will never invest in it after my experience with DAO crash.
Any smart investor i know is not holding ethereum right now.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Minecache on March 16, 2017, 07:21:36 AM

You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.

I am not a Dash shill, i invested in Ethereum ago also, but i will never invest in it after my experience with DAO crash.
Any smart investor i know is not holding ethereum right now.
You are a Dash shill pleading for others to show respectability to a scam coin. Read up about Dash, the creator, the instamine, the master node ponzi.

Ps ETH <> DAO


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 07:23:30 AM

You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.

I am not a Dash shill, i invested in Ethereum ago also, but i will never invest in it after my experience with DAO crash.
Any smart investor i know is not holding ethereum right now.
You are a Dash shill pleading for others to show respectability to a scam coin. Read up about Dash, the creator, the instamine, the master node ponzi.

Ps ETH <> DAO

Again... I am not a Dash shill, please don't spam in my thread...


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Minecache on March 16, 2017, 07:33:10 AM

You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.

I am not a Dash shill, i invested in Ethereum ago also, but i will never invest in it after my experience with DAO crash.
Any smart investor i know is not holding ethereum right now.
You are a Dash shill pleading for others to show respectability to a scam coin. Read up about Dash, the creator, the instamine, the master node ponzi.

Ps ETH <> DAO

Again... I am not a Dash shill, please don't spam in my thread...
So why do you seek others respect for Dash?


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: XbladeX on March 16, 2017, 07:36:25 AM
What i see in Altcoin space last days is absolute insanity...
Investors puting money whenever green color shows 10+.
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look at ETH like on OIL :) both in build are the same.
1) To high price of oil people are looking for alternatives
2) Low price of ETH people buy ETH for services

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2nd thing is space:

Imagine in decentralized system store so much data as ETH will need
BTC have problem with 1MB while ETH want do everything from domains to dividends.
After 3-4 years blockchain size will be like 100-200GB in 10 like 10TB or more.
Eth will migrate to 3-4 bigdata centers but it won't be no longer decentralized.
More Daps more space resources needed CPU/SSDs.
Imagine scan 2TB for data records in sensible time !

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Cost changing i remember that devs were hard forking some stuff to rise costs of some operations.
Imagine u run contract and you have ammount of ETH and gas then they rise cost and you dap stuck/stop.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 07:51:53 AM

You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.

I am not a Dash shill, i invested in Ethereum ago also, but i will never invest in it after my experience with DAO crash.
Any smart investor i know is not holding ethereum right now.
You are a Dash shill pleading for others to show respectability to a scam coin. Read up about Dash, the creator, the instamine, the master node ponzi.

Ps ETH <> DAO

Again... I am not a Dash shill, please don't spam in my thread...
So why do you seek others respect for Dash?

Because it's too much disrespect for Dash in these forums, any Dash thread have been ruined my members like you.
I want real discussions, you see we are like kids playing here, my coin is best, no my coin is better...

It's a fact that Ethereum is not for average users.
It's a fact that Darkcoin had bug for instamine.

Does it makes Dash scam?

I don't know, don't lie that you know either...

I know all those threads about Darkcoin instamine and it's nice reason for Dash competitors to attack them for the bug...
There's no facts, proofs, that Dash is a scam, if you want to speculate, please create a topic in speculation category...



Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: kryptqnick on March 16, 2017, 07:52:36 AM
I don't know.. I invested in eth when is was 16$ and now it's 40 already, so I'm really happy about it. And I didn't invest just because the price started growing. I read and watched some stuff on ETH and realized that it is actually a very good platform and coin. I think it will become as good as bitcoin is. Only some security problems have to be solved and eth will be just great.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Pursuer on March 16, 2017, 08:00:38 AM
2nd thing is space:

Imagine in decentralized system store so much data as ETH will need
BTC have problem with 1MB while ETH want do everything from domains to dividends.
After 3-4 years blockchain size will be like 100-200GB in 10 like 10TB or more.
Eth will migrate to 3-4 bigdata centers but it won't be no longer decentralized.
More Daps more space resources needed CPU/SSDs.
Imagine scan 2TB for data records in sensible time !

last time I checked the size was about 4 months ago and blockchain size was 60+GB in a non-prune mode (or whatever they call it in ethereum world) and it is rising at an alarming rate. I think it should be about 80 to 90 GB today. and in 3-4 years it can easily be 200 GB or more.
this is what most people who are so happy about fast altcoins forget! and that is the size of the blockchain and how fast it grows. imagine ethereum having the same or even half the number of transactions bitcoin has and remember that block time is about 14 seconds.
now imagine if ethereum is attacked with spam transactions the same way bitcoin is!


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: NorrisK on March 16, 2017, 08:07:25 AM
I agree mostly with TS, people are seeing ETH as something it is not when they decide to buy it.

I do not agree with TS that it is not a good investment opportunity. If there is clear positive momentum, smart traders can make a nice profit by investing for up to a few days in this.

I'm staying mostly away from it, as I got burned by the hard fork, but remember that any alt rising like this will pave the way for the other alts as well. Without ethereum at 3 billion market cap, no other will come close to 1 billion and they will stay stuck at 100mil.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 08:23:14 AM
I don't know.. I invested in eth when is was 16$ and now it's 40 already, so I'm really happy about it. And I didn't invest just because the price started growing. I read and watched some stuff on ETH and realized that it is actually a very good platform and coin. I think it will become as good as bitcoin is. Only some security problems have to be solved and eth will be just great.

It can't be as good as Bitcoin because the purpose of Ethereum is not similar to Bitcoin.

I understand price rise in Dash, because of evolution project, governance system, fast transactions, but Ethereum haven't done any improvements.

If price keeps rising it does not mean that Ethereum code is becoming better, you can't do anything with ethereum if you are not a developer.

We can use Dash and Bitcoin in online shops, but we can't do that with Ethereum.

If i would not know what is happening behind the scenes, then Ethereum would look like nice investment.

I am sure that any other person who don't know what is happening behind the scenes is not capable to explain why Ethereum price is rising...

Well what i can say, enjoy the Ethereum pump, it definitely will not crash...



Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Minecache on March 16, 2017, 08:32:19 AM
I don't know.. I invested in eth when is was 16$ and now it's 40 already, so I'm really happy about it. And I didn't invest just because the price started growing. I read and watched some stuff on ETH and realized that it is actually a very good platform and coin. I think it will become as good as bitcoin is. Only some security problems have to be solved and eth will be just great.

It can't be as good as Bitcoin because the purpose of Ethereum is not similar to Bitcoin.

I understand price rise in Dash, because of evolution project, governance system, fast transactions, but Ethereum haven't done any improvements.

If price keeps rising it does not mean that Ethereum code is becoming better, you can't do anything with ethereum if you are not a developer.

We can use Dash and Bitcoin in online shops, but we can't do that with Ethereum.

If i would not know what is happening behind the scenes, then Ethereum would look like nice investment.

I am sure that any other person who don't know what is happening behind the scenes is not capable to explain why Ethereum price is rising...

Well what i can say, enjoy the Ethereum pump, it definitely will not crash...


110% graded FUD.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 08:40:56 AM
Good luck for whales and bankers, hope you will make profit from newbies, i got to go now.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: mining1 on March 16, 2017, 10:23:02 AM
Take a close look at this guy. Like him there are many, people that don't research enough and that are usually easily lured into scams like dash, etc and so on. They look at these projects, and they think of them as payment systems / coins. That's why they will never understand why ether's value is still increasing. Reasons are many, i personally tried to explain as much as i could, but it's like spit in the wind with these guys. Let him wonder. At 10billions ethereum's cap he will panic and tell everyone some other project is a better payment system because they have X feature.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Vito Corleone on March 16, 2017, 10:28:04 AM
Take a close look at this guy. Like him there are many, people that don't research enough and that are usually easily lured into scams like dash, etc and so on. They look at these projects, and they think of them as payment systems / coins. That's why they will never understand why ether's value is still increasing. Reasons are many, i personally tried to explain as much as i could, but it's like spit in the wind with these guys. Let him wonder. At 10billions ethereum's cap he will panic and tell everyone some other project is a better payment system because they have X feature.

ETH shill.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: McWorse on March 16, 2017, 04:57:32 PM
What i see in Altcoin space last days is absolute insanity...
Investors puting money whenever green color shows 10+.

Let's be real do ethereum will ever be a payment system?

No

Why not?
Big companies are getting in touch with ethereum. Perhaps in windows XX you'll have a wallet included for paying apps and any services you'll use?

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Do ethereum will ever become digital gold like Bitcoin?

No

Why should it?

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The purpose of ethereum is not to become an alternative currency and that's why you never see ethereum integrated in your local shop.

Perhaps I'll have a contract with my local shop, like: "Start your drone and bring me potatoes, when the price is less than 0,5 bucks per pound.

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Do you think that you will use ethereum as a token and gass for contracts?

I don't think so, it's valuable for developers, but not for average investors.

Aha. Valuable for developers. And what will they do with their developments?
Throw them in the basket?

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Let's analyse and ask questions.

Who are working to become better?
Who innovates?
Who are game changers?
Who stops progressing?

We have allot of factors that determines the future of altcoin.

What ethereum is doing is only fixing bugs and attracting more ignorant sheepless investors.

What Bitcoin is doing is not respecting my experience, users experience, i have send 15k in Bitcoin and i paid almost 200$.

If Bitcoin would have what Dash have, i would keep using Bitcoin.

Dash deserves to be much more respected in forum.

Sorry - only a lot of questions, but no analysis.
The people of ethereum are innovating. They are developing ideas, which are nowadays state of art and flying around of a lot of brains. Ethereum is catching that and is bringing that to code. And they do lots of marketing. Why? To get in touch with people, who have the possibilities to implement their ideas. To make them know, what is possible. To make them know, who and what they are. And to earn money - of course. Without money, the best idea is nothing. I hope, the people of ethereum will earn al lot of money, so they can push their ideas with.

Or would you buy a nike shoe, if there hasn't been any advertisement, or no sportsman, or paid superstar wearing it for the last 50 years?
No.

And you say, that ethereum is only fixing bugs.
I say:
I hope, they do!
Everyone with a clear mind will optimize the product, which is supposed to be for sale.
Doing not would be negligent.

I have the impression, Frodomaga, that you are missing some powers of imagination. And because of that, you can't recognize it, when other people have these skills.

Ehther actual could be pumped. Yes. Could be pumped like the hole altcoin market after the etf decision. Lots of money was transfered from btc to other coins, pushing them all up. Seeing this collectiv rise, people got crazy and poured more money in the market. Now everything is going up.
Good projects will profit. Because good projects will take this money to light the next stage of their rocket.
I think, ethereum will do so.

And of course:
It is absolutely normal, that the market could cool down. And it will. Also the price of ether.
But I don't care.
Just bought it, when it was cheap...
:D

Best regards!
McW.




Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Tiphune on March 16, 2017, 05:08:51 PM

You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.

I am not a Dash shill, i invested in Ethereum ago also, but i will never invest in it after my experience with DAO crash.
Any smart investor i know is not holding ethereum right now.


Any smart investor would wait ETH to go at least 100% up from now and then sell it. You think you are smart, because you know it's investors bumping price so you won't buy any ether.  And now, I also know that, but Ill also make money on it.  I guess that makes me a little bit smarter than you and your well known "smart investors".


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 05:23:55 PM

You Dash shill. Read into Dash it's nothing more than a scam and the sooner it explodes the better.

I am not a Dash shill, i invested in Ethereum ago also, but i will never invest in it after my experience with DAO crash.
Any smart investor i know is not holding ethereum right now.


Any smart investor would wait ETH to go at least 100% up from now and then sell it. You think you are smart, because you know it's investors bumping price so you won't buy any ether.  And now, I also know that, but Ill also make money on it.  I guess that makes me a little bit smarter than you and your well known "smart investors".

I think we have smarter people than me in these forums, but i am smart enough to not go all in Ethereum, 4% of my investments are in Ethereum

P.S
You are trader, not an investor then.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: shewasfourteen on March 16, 2017, 05:32:59 PM

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I think we have smarter people than me in these forums, but i am smart enough to not go all in Ethereum, 4% of my investments are in Ethereum


Bookmarked


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Piston Honda on March 16, 2017, 05:38:06 PM
i like the OP's take on things.

BUT....rebranded WBB will put all this ETH, DASH, XMR, SDC shit to bed soon enough.  show you how an alt SHOULD be used by a biz in real life, very soon.  8)


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 05:38:06 PM

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I think we have smarter people than me in these forums, but i am smart enough to not go all in Ethereum, 4% of my investments are in Ethereum


Bookmarked

I never buy at the pump and would not recomend to buy ETH right now for anyone.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: btcxyzzz on March 16, 2017, 06:37:44 PM
there's a sweet sweet pile of bullshit in opening post. congratz, gold medal.


Title: Re: Ethereum Boat Is Sinking Bankers Pumping Price Attracting More Sheeps
Post by: Frodomaga on March 16, 2017, 07:01:34 PM
there's a sweet sweet pile of bullshit in opening post. congratz, gold medal.

Then delete your post.