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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: SA Bitcoin Brothers on March 17, 2017, 06:37:18 AM



Title: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: SA Bitcoin Brothers on March 17, 2017, 06:37:18 AM
Not BITMAIN or Canaan, anything else? I want to support something else but only if its better.


Title: Re: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on March 17, 2017, 03:07:23 PM
No one else is out there. So far only Bitmain and Canaan are shipping miners and looks like it will be that way for along time.

BitFury does have chips primarily for their own use but are willing to sell them to makers IF you have around $1-million to plunk down for their minimum order req. So far only one company has shown a miner using BF chips and that is all -- A miner and no mention of actually producing/selling them (it?)


Title: Re: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: leowonderful on March 17, 2017, 03:41:07 PM
No one else is out there. So far only Bitmain and Canaan are shipping miners and looks like it will be that way for along time.

BitFury does have chips primarily for their own use but are willing to sell them to makers IF you have around $1-million to plunk down for their minimum order req. So far only one company has shown a miner using BF chips and that is all -- A miner and no mention of actually producing/selling them (it?)
Sidehack isn't exactly a company (:p) but he is planning on creating a series of bitfury based miners which could possibly be worth looking at. It'll take some time for em to be released, though, but there's supposedly going to be a blade based design which you can replace S3/5/1 blades with.


Title: Re: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: philipma1957 on March 17, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
you need to understand why no one will make new gear and sell it.

the s-9  works at .11 watts per gh 
the s-9 could be made for well under 600 dollars by bit main


so If you want to be competitive as a major seller  you need  huge money  .

If I made a solid .08 watt 10th miner

Sold it for 1000 usd

Bitmain could cut back on the s-9  flood the market selling at 900  still turn profit.

this happened with the sp20 and the s-5.

Also  bitmain  still has s-7 hashnest product  makes a lot of money on it.  Even if they really run  s-7's they turn profit.

but for all know they run s-9's  and tell the s-7 people on hashnest it is s-7  this makes even more money for them.

I simply don't see much gear coming out in bulk any time soon.

especially if you study hashnest numbers.





Title: Re: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: maxbit on March 19, 2017, 10:56:51 PM
What about EHS? I see a miner for scrypt here: https://www.ehsminer.com/ It says that it is an asic miner for scrypt at 2000 mh/s. Anyone  on this?

edit: Nevermind, found this thread that seems to point o ehsminer as being old scam, vaporware etc... Buyer beware!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573712.20


Title: Re: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: leowonderful on March 20, 2017, 12:27:43 AM
What about EHS? I see a miner for scrypt here: https://www.ehsminer.com/ It says that it is an asic miner for scrypt at 2000 mh/s. Anyone  on this?

edit: Nevermind, found this thread that seems to point o ehsminer as being old scam, vaporware etc... Buyer beware!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573712.20
Yep, these days if it's not Bitmain or Innosilicon then it's likely a scam as all other competitors have died off. That huge amount of hashrate is also pretty hard to believe and that alone gave it alone.


Title: Re: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: QuintLeo on March 22, 2017, 05:32:48 AM
What about EHS? I see a miner for scrypt here: https://www.ehsminer.com/ It says that it is an asic miner for scrypt at 2000 mh/s. Anyone  on this?

edit: Nevermind, found this thread that seems to point o ehsminer as being old scam, vaporware etc... Buyer beware!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573712.20
Yep, these days if it's not Bitmain or Innosilicon then it's likely a scam as all other competitors have died off. That huge amount of hashrate is also pretty hard to believe and that alone gave it alone.

 Caanan is still around - Avalon 721 and 741 models.

 Some folks seem to be finally getting chips out of BitFury to work with for miner building.

 BW.com seems to have dropped the "sell their miners" idea in favor of internal usage or a "large farm sales + internal use only" Bitfury-type model.



Title: Re: Any New companies supplying miners that is worth it?
Post by: fanatic26 on March 23, 2017, 08:12:09 PM
Ebit also makes a 16nm miner currently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1737602.0

It looks like there might be another new player as well in Pantech (a multinational korean mobile phone producer).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1837921.0