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Title: When talking about kWH, are we including fees? Post by: boatznhoes on March 18, 2017, 08:52:33 PM Are people talking about the pure x/kWH number on the electric bill or are we dividing the total hours used by the bill? I know there are fees and delivery charges. (At least in my area)
Title: Re: When talking about kWH, are we including fees? Post by: xleejohnx on March 18, 2017, 08:58:54 PM Are people talking about the pure x/kWH number on the electric bill or are we dividing the total hours used by the bill? I know there are fees and delivery charges. (At least in my area) 90% of the time its just kWh not taxes or fees just wattage Title: Re: When talking about kWH, are we including fees? Post by: Marvell1 on March 18, 2017, 09:37:04 PM yup fees and taxes can add almost 20% to your power bill at least in the us
a good rule of think is to add 20% to your porjected power bill to factor in thoses fees Title: Re: When talking about kWH, are we including fees? Post by: Xeon_Xeon on March 18, 2017, 11:31:55 PM All my additional fees are fixed so I just count the KW/h only.
It's .097 KW/h where I live. Title: Re: When talking about kWH, are we including fees? Post by: nu1mlock on March 18, 2017, 11:37:02 PM I live in Sweden and all prices always include taxes (unless you own a company, then you add 25% but only because prices for companies are shown (online) without taxes). So whenever I purchase something or compare prices for example electricity, all prices always include everything. We Swedes thought it'd be easier that way. So yeah, it all depends on where you live.
I always pay about $0.1/kWh no matter the time of day. Title: Re: When talking about kWH, are we including fees? Post by: toptek on March 19, 2017, 12:01:11 AM f I say 7.10 cents per KWH in my case that is with out fees with no limits by that I mean time of day that across the board all the time for me with fees it totals out around 12 cents a KWH .... all year long ...i shop for fixed prices...but my prices are high because of were i live ...or state I live in ...my fees scale with what i use my power is a fixed price i wish i only had to pay 7.10 cents per khw and we can pick who we buy our power from the fees are from the power company that deliverys it ,so i'm about the same you are ... the plus side to beadle to pick who we buy from is the lower the price the lower the fees are .. i guess ...
Title: Re: When talking about kWH, are we including fees? Post by: QuintLeo on March 19, 2017, 08:31:18 AM Any figure I quite for my own rate is "total $$$ I have to pay on the electric bill with EVERYTHING included / watts used on that bill".
Any figure that doesn't include ALL fees is not a valid number for comparison. As a slightly extreme example, my "top tier base rate" when I was in Alliant Energy territory the winter or 2015/2016 was 2.3 cents/kwh or some such - but after adding in all the fees like "energy transmisson fee" and "fuel surcharge fee" and "franchise fee" and sales tax, even after the savings for Time of Day rate (ALLiant has by far the worst Time of Day rate setup I have ever seen, with very low total savings) my actual bill was normally 7.7 cents/kwh or a bit more total. Part of that was I had to go through 2 tiers worth of consumption, very rough ballpark 1-1.5 KWH per lower tier, one at a bit over 8c/kwh the next at 5.5ish, to get TO the 2.3c tier as well - but I did figure out I was paying ballpark 65% of my bill to "fees" and sales tax, not to the base rate that is what most power companies like to post as their "rate". Nice thing about Central Washington hydro-county PUDs - the base rate is MOST of the actual bill, unless you're on an industrial scale or LARGE business rate rate the only "fees" are the meter fee and sales tax - and even the industrial scale rates are generally adding a "peak KW usage" fee as the only other fee and the base rate is STILL the fairly large majority of your bill. |