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Title: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 19, 2017, 11:16:51 PM
According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Quickseller on March 19, 2017, 11:33:53 PM
I think by "uninteresting" they mean "unprofitable"


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 19, 2017, 11:55:01 PM
gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.

those fans of gmaxwell love monero and zcash

its obvious once gmaxwell screws with bitcoin to centralise bitcoin and hand it to the DCG corporation, they will move onto monero and zcash and rinse and repeat by calling them the next best dcentralised coin while slowly get those alts to fame and then centralise them too.

gmaxwell is dep in the bankers pockets and doesnt care about bitcoins decentralised ethos remaining. once centralised in 100% control of the blockstream/dcg corporation, he will pretend to do a walk away, pretending it is an act of protest., when in reality his job is complete and he is just moving onto the next phase


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Viscount on March 20, 2017, 12:09:24 AM
gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.
...
Whereas what you are posting is complete lie, Roger ver himself many times says he quit bitcoin and now he thinks dash is better.
https://i.redd.it/rydwk8wjqdiy.jpg


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Viscount on March 20, 2017, 12:12:21 AM
According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

You gave a link to some BTU shills' brothel and suppose us to believe you? why all BTU shills are so dumb?


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 20, 2017, 12:15:37 AM
gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.
...
Whereas what you are posting is complete lie,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11425
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Name:    gmaxwell
Posts:    4820
Activity:    2128
Position:    Staff
Other contact info:    XMR: 43pCtCRUn6nRdvmpqzoHJy4NwFsRrEqywhjwfbiUqTtqBAHxCNzdctbHZjf1AZKtTkAjgKmhYgkqBU9 T4BEfAgBqKwK21M7
XMR=monero

dcg http://dcg.co/portfolio/#b blockstream (gmaxwells company)
dcg http://dcg.co/portfolio/#z zcash


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Viscount on March 20, 2017, 12:18:41 AM
And what? I accept dollars does it mean that I say dollars is better than bitcoin, like Ver says Dash is better than Bitcoin? Try again


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Viscount on March 20, 2017, 12:18:58 AM
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F6rw2j2of3%2FBUshow.png&t=574&c=OxN9YMukZMa-xQ


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: XbladeX on March 20, 2017, 12:22:01 AM
we should have HF and let market decide : )


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 20, 2017, 12:24:47 AM
And what? I accept dollars does it mean that I say dollars is better than bitcoin, like Ver says Dash is better than Bitcoin? Try again

i have looked at your post history.
1. you dont care about bitcoins diverse independent decentralised ethos, you are very much into REKTing anything not core. because you want centralisation
2. you are happy if core pull the trigger and split so you can double the coins to avoid losing control.
3. you dont understand non-core implementations do not have intentional banning mechanisms to take control. they will just use consensus of diversity
4. you keep talking excitedly about the price of bitcoin but lack understanding of bitcoin concepts such as consensus and diversity.

meaning you have spent more time rekting diversity in hopes of FIAT enrichment. but no actual time understanding bitcoin


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: szpalata on March 20, 2017, 12:31:45 AM
we should have HF and let market decide : )

Exactly what we've been anticipating. Hope we have it soon though.


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 20, 2017, 12:38:45 AM
im laughing at the hypocrisy

1 minute : fear BU they want to split the network
2 minute : hurry and split the network because BU isnt going to

logic : NON-core implementations DONT want to split the network, they want consensus of level playing field PEER network
logic : core fear losing their TIER network and dont want to be on same level PEER network as other implementations
logic : core have the splitting code, the deadlines, the threats, the scripted rhetoric to play a victim card
logic : core trigger the split


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 20, 2017, 12:59:30 AM
According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

You gave a link to some BTU shills' brothel and suppose us to believe you? why all BTU shills are so dumb?

I don't care if you believe me.  I said in the OP i don't know if its true.

Perhaps if Greg Maxwell really cares about Bitcoin and his core supporters, he will set the record
straight about what he would do in the event of a network split.   Since he frequently posts and is a
moderator of this forum, I assume he would see a thread with his name on it.


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Invincible on March 20, 2017, 01:27:13 AM

logic : NON-core implementations DONT want to split the network, they want consensus of level playing field PEER network

https://img2.brain4.photobox.com/408112410aacfdbac4f290ff47f530f0f9d07a51494390cdaee751b0d8cf5dc1e4bc332f.jpg


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 20, 2017, 01:54:37 AM

logic : NON-core implementations DONT want to split the network, they want consensus of level playing field PEER network

https://img2.brain4.photobox.com/408112410aacfdbac4f290ff47f530f0f9d07a51494390cdaee751b0d8cf5dc1e4bc332f.jpg

you need to learn the difference between the umbrella term HF. and then the subcategories below it.

contentious is where its not consensual.. and instead either controversial or bilateral split.

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clarity

soft and hard is simply:
soft: pool only vote
hard: nodes and pools vote

below these umbrella terms is what could happen.. in both hard and soft it can either continue as one chain. or bilateral split
softfork: consensus - >94% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: small 5% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced and dead
softfork: controversial - >50% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: long big% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced and dead
softfork: bilateral split - intentionally ignoring/banning opposing rules and not including them. result: 2 chains

hardfork: consensus - >94% nodes, then >94% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: 5% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced / dead
hardfork: controversial - >50% nodes, then >50% pools no banning/ignoring of minority. result: big% orphan drama then one chain. minority unsynced / dead
hardfork: bilateral split - intentionally ignoring/banning opposing rules and not including them. result: 2 chains

 then you see that with BU wanting hard CONSENSUS and not CONTENTIOUS...where by going consensus BEATS the corporate cartel of treating BU as the altcoin.
https://www.scribd.com/document/342194766/Hardfork-Statement-3-17-11-00am
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We’d like to take the time to update the community on the procedure that we, as an industry, intend to follow in the event of a contentious hardfork activating on the Bitcoin network

because the corporate cartel said they would name it BTU if a CONTENTIOUS fork occurred.

which would happen only by core triggering it. because non-core implementations dont have code to do such a split. and for 2+ years of running on the main net, showed no intent to either. even now. now deadlines, no threats, no ban hammer. just plodding along letting the network decide for themselves.

and thats what core fear the most. that CONSENSUS will vote against core and for the non-core divers mutliple implementations that just want the raising of the main base block.
losing core its agenda to have control at the top of a TIER network .. and they will refuse to just be part of a PEER network


P.S
bitfinex also believe if CORE become the minority they will call core BCC. if BU become the minority they will call BU BCU
so its not a simple.. if there is a split BU is auto treated as the altcoin..

devil is in the details of the announcement... "contentious"
https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/843226656940679170
https://i.imgur.com/XNerMzk.png


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Wind_FURY on March 20, 2017, 02:38:14 AM
gmaxwell loves zcash and monero
gmaxwells investor DCG loves zcash.
...
Whereas what you are posting is complete lie, Roger ver himself many times says he quit bitcoin and now he thinks dash is better.
https://i.redd.it/rydwk8wjqdiy.jpg

The same thoughts here. I believe the whales are hedging their bets on Ethereum, Dash, ZEC and XMR which are the biggest movers. Maybe this issue will finally make me invest in my first altcoin. I have been looking at ETC for some time now.

Could this be a planned effort to divide the community so that some altcoin conquers? Have we been tricked?


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: jbreher on March 20, 2017, 02:49:42 AM
Roger ver himself many times says he quit bitcoin

Really? Then you of course will not mind providing a link to him stating such.


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: FiendCoin on March 20, 2017, 03:04:02 AM
According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

You know what I find uninteresting? BTU shills... You and franky1 should create some new accounts to at least give the appearance of non-shill support for BTU.

Step your game up!


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Killerpotleaf on March 20, 2017, 03:08:05 AM
According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

You know what I find uninteresting? BTU shills... You and franky1 should create some new accounts to at least give the appearance of non-shill support for BTU.

Step your game up!
Gmax? is that you?


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: FiendCoin on March 20, 2017, 03:34:23 AM
According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

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have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

You know what I find uninteresting? BTU shills... You and franky1 should create some new accounts to at least give the appearance of non-shill support for BTU.

Step your game up!
Gmax? is that you?

Roger?


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: pereira4 on March 20, 2017, 03:47:59 AM
Roger Ver is using DASH to pump it as a "see, if you dont go BU, shitcoins will take over", sad to see how people are falling into the trap by buying that coin. Enjoy the pump while it lasts.

Meanwhile, actual experts are exposing BUgcoin for what it is:

https://s21.postimg.org/gy7tz2zqv/Busucks2.png

And the market is already reacting towards Jihan's statefunded mining monopoly supporting BUGcoin:

http://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/bitcoins-price-crashes-after-exchanges-fork-statement-540x355.jpg

Jihan cries on twitter about how "markets are unfair", gets ridiculuded by actual legends in the field:

https://s11.postimg.org/bqaupgceb/Nick_Szabo_Owns_Jihan.png

It's ironic how the 2 biggest idiots in bitcoin have the most hashrate and the most money. Soon they'll be bankrupt tho.




Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 20, 2017, 03:52:30 AM
Meanwhile, actual experts are exposing BUgcoin for what it is:
https://s21.postimg.org/gy7tz2zqv/Busucks2.png

2013 levelDB bug(hours of orphans and stalling of chain growth) <- debunks cores perfect record
vs
some bu nodes went offline but the network continued
..
is core perfect? nope: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: aarturka on March 20, 2017, 04:49:03 AM
If Bitcoin become uninteresting to Greg Maxwell, there are 99 other devs, am I right? So everything is going to be ok.


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 20, 2017, 05:18:12 AM
Jihan Wu http://bitcoinist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Jihan.jpeg Zhou Tong https://www.bitcoinbrasil.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6614_104633431823_104633151823_2280519_3395180_n.jpg Sum Yung Guy https://www.clipartsgram.com/image/473600912-person-clipart-silhouette-man-silhouette-md.png


Is anyone else tired of getting screwed over by Asian teen boys?


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 20, 2017, 05:22:22 AM
If Bitcoin become uninteresting to Greg Maxwell, there are 99 other devs, am I right? So everything is going to be ok.

core have about a dozen paid devs and 100 unpaid spell checker interns hoping to get a blockstream contract if they remain loyal


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: FiendCoin on March 20, 2017, 05:28:40 AM
If Bitcoin become uninteresting to Greg Maxwell, there are 99 other devs, am I right? So everything is going to be ok.

core have about a dozen paid devs and 100 unpaid spell checker interns hoping to get a blockstream contract if they remain loyal

Says franky1 of the Ver/Wu shill army.


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: franky1 on March 20, 2017, 06:02:02 AM
If Bitcoin become uninteresting to Greg Maxwell, there are 99 other devs, am I right? So everything is going to be ok.

core have about a dozen paid devs and 100 unpaid spell checker interns hoping to get a blockstream contract if they remain loyal

Says franky1 of the Ver/Wu shill army.

lol
you will soon learn im in my own army of self opinion. i am not here to kiss ass or make friends. i will continue to just talk frank about what is actually happening. i have corrected people on both sides of the fense. but it becomes apparent that the core fanbase has many scripts and little research that it appears im just 'attacking' blockstream fan-boys. simply because their sales pitches and scripts are so blindingly obvious of having faults in what they say

 i want dynamics and a network of diverse nodes working independantly using consensus to find some mutual agreement on a single network. i care more about the combination of atleast a dozen differing diverse codebases than any single one.

this is where the blockstream army have failed to pigeon hole me into any non-core group with every rekt campaign they have tried. because i belong to none of them.

i would infact be in favour of core if they got rid of the corporate puppet masters of blockstream pulling their strings. but core would need to actually act independent and think about the bitcoin network and not some corporate agenda to repay DCG millions.

but keep up with the insults, i do love the sound of whistles in the wind


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: FiendCoin on March 20, 2017, 07:46:09 AM
If Bitcoin become uninteresting to Greg Maxwell, there are 99 other devs, am I right? So everything is going to be ok.

core have about a dozen paid devs and 100 unpaid spell checker interns hoping to get a blockstream contract if they remain loyal

Says franky1 of the Ver/Wu shill army.

lol
you will soon learn im in my own army of self opinion. i am not here to kiss ass or make friends. i will continue to just talk frank about what is actually happening. i have corrected people on both sides of the fense. but it becomes apparent that the core fanbase has many scripts and little research that it appears im just 'attacking' blockstream fan-boys. simply because their sales pitches and scripts are so blindingly obvious of having faults in what they say

 i want dynamics and a network of diverse nodes working independantly using consensus to find some mutual agreement on a single network. i care more about the combination of atleast a dozen differing diverse codebases than any single one.

this is where the blockstream army have failed to pigeon hole me into any non-core group with every rekt campaign they have tried. because i belong to none of them.

i would infact be in favour of core if they got rid of the corporate puppet masters of blockstream pulling their strings. but core would need to actually act independent and think about the bitcoin network and not some corporate agenda to repay DCG millions.

but keep up with the insults, i do love the sound of whistles in the wind

*whistles in the wind* /giggles  :D


Title: Re: if Bitcoin HF, it will become "uninteresting" to Greg Maxwell
Post by: Wind_FURY on March 21, 2017, 03:30:35 AM
According to this page

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/60acex/reminder_for_miners_do_not_fall_for_a_fake/

Quote
have you heard the rhetoric coming from guys like Maxwell, Luke, Lombozo, etc? they've said repeatedly that they will never compromise and that if we HF, Bitcoin becomes "uninteresting" to them.

Don't know if its true.  But, if there is a HF, i would be cautious before you decide to "double your Bitcoins" especially
if you plan on selling BU in hopes that Core's chain will win economically, since many of the Core leaders might
bail on you.

You know what I find uninteresting? BTU shills... You and franky1 should create some new accounts to at least give the appearance of non-shill support for BTU.

Step your game up!
Gmax? is that you?

Roger?

Hahahaha! Funny. But what if it was all Andreas Antonopolous controlling both accounts and arguing with himself because he was bored.

The idea of Gmaxwell and Roger Ver posting under another username and ended up arguing with each other may have some cosmic interference there. They are made to fight each other.