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Title: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: ThomasRozinski on March 20, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
Hi,

I just kinda had a quick question and wanted to see what everybody thought.  My main question as the title states;  Why is Ripple or XPR not worth more or why is the value not higher?  With all of the possibilities it can offer and potential it has,  I would think it would be one of the most valued coins.  If you don't know what Ripple has to off, just go to their website and it explains it perfectly.  I don't wanna take up your time attempting to explain it all, and they can do it much better than myself. 

Anyway, the only guesses I can somewhat come up with are,
  • It hasn't caught on yet.
  • It isn't worth a lot now but will be in the future
  • They don't have a very good wallet or hardly any choices for wallets
But that's really all I can think of why it's not worth very much.  But these things can be overcame fairly easily.  Especially with everything Ripple has to offer.  But I would like to hear from the community any answer and insight is greatly appreciated.

Thank You![/size]


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: xland86 on March 29, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
Even now price still no rising why


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: g___ on March 29, 2017, 10:05:49 PM

My main question as the title states;  Why is Ripple or XPR not worth more or why is the value not higher?


XRP total supply = 100,000,000,000
BTC total supply = 21,000,000

see where i'm going?

edit: i am very long on xrp though.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Sekhas on March 29, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
We Must Wait, the future my friend is Ripple(XRP) Believe me! it's market cap is one of biggest between top 4 CryptoCurrencies right now and it's completely secure with most powerfull features,
just put Faith on Ripple! the future is mine


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Sekhas on March 29, 2017, 10:27:42 PM

My main question as the title states;  Why is Ripple or XPR not worth more or why is the value not higher?


XRP total supply = 100,000,000,000
BTC total supply = 21,000,000

see where i'm going?

edit: i am very long on xrp though.

You are completely Right my friend, KEEP CALM AND HAVE FAITH ON IT
also guys check my post , Link to my post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847183.0) and support this powerfull coin (Ripple(XRP))


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Playboi on March 29, 2017, 10:28:36 PM
We Must Wait, the future my friend is Ripple(XRP) Believe me! it's market cap is one of biggest between top 4 CryptoCurrencies right now and it's completely secure with most powerfull features,
just put Faith on Ripple! the future is mine
you work for Ripple fam? Dude signed up to defend his company lol. but i can't front

at .009 a coin, i don't see the harm in dropping $100 on the coin. I'll just go out one less day this week.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Sekhas on March 29, 2017, 11:04:54 PM
We Must Wait, the future my friend is Ripple(XRP) Believe me! it's market cap is one of biggest between top 4 CryptoCurrencies right now and it's completely secure with most powerfull features,
just put Faith on Ripple! the future is mine
you work for Ripple fam? Dude signed up to defend his company lol. but i can't front

at .009 a coin, i don't see the harm in dropping $100 on the coin. I'll just go out one less day this week.
Not my friend Playboi,believe me dude don't work for any one, I'm just a part of 99% not 1% but always i try to say the truth that my magical crystal ball tells me ;D, take care of yourself my friend at this dangerous time of market ;)


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: mining1 on March 29, 2017, 11:42:56 PM
Because:

1. Ripple is a private company
2. It is centralized
3. Ripple is not XRP, therefore the partnerships between ripple and the banks doesn't affect XRP much if at all. XRP is a playtoy ripple threw at the speculators to make money


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: g___ on March 30, 2017, 12:42:34 AM
xrp broke $0.01!

yes, i'm excited


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: shyliar on March 30, 2017, 01:08:12 AM
xrp broke $0.01!

yes, i'm excited

Yes, likely they are pumping it up in preparation of flooding the market with another 1.4 billion ripple.

Ripple tokens available on the market as of December 25th 2016 = 36,003,596,482

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20161225/

Ripple tokens available on the marker as of today = 37,388,960,792

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/


That's 1,385,364,310 or almost 1.4 billion more tokens. Likely at current rate of release another 1.4 billion tokens will be released by July. At today's price that represents a little over $14,375,000 US for the 1.4 billion tokens. Or if they continue to be released at the same rate approximately $57,500,000 US for 2017. Not bad for something created virtually out of thin air. I wonder how deep the pockets of the gullible are. The efforts being put into pumping the token suggests a large release of tokens is imminent. The ripple team is really going to enjoy their summer at the public's expense.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: robelneo on March 30, 2017, 02:14:28 AM
Use to support Ripple when I'm just a newbie and just stating out in the crypto currency,but after comparing it to bitcoin and other popular crypto currency I found out it's not decentralized and they hold huge premine I got out of supporting it,the only thing that keeps them goin gis they have a great group of devcelopers and marketers..


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: God27 on March 30, 2017, 04:09:19 AM
xrp broke $0.01!

yes, i'm excited

Yes, likely they are pumping it up in preparation of flooding the market with another 1.4 billion ripple.

Ripple tokens available on the market as of December 25th 2016 = 36,003,596,482

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20161225/

Ripple tokens available on the marker as of today = 37,388,960,792

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/


That's 1,385,364,310 or almost 1.4 billion more tokens. Likely at current rate of release another 1.4 billion tokens will be released by July. At today's price that represents a little over $14,375,000 US for the 1.4 billion tokens. Or if they continue to be released at the same rate approximately $57,500,000 US for 2017. Not bad for something created virtually out of thin air. I wonder how deep the pockets of the gullible are. The efforts being put into pumping the token suggests a large release of tokens is imminent. The ripple team is really going to enjoy their summer at the public's expense.

This is a great point and nice analysis.

However, there are ppl out there that have been buying millions of xrp for the last 3 or 4 years at the price between $0.005 and $0.01.

They are in the green now so the decision on what to do is theirs.

I find it bullish that ripple sells/loans XRP at the rate of hundreds of millions per month at or around the current exchange rate.

But some ppl aren't here to grow their wealth but rather be FUD philanthropist.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 30, 2017, 06:53:38 AM
the same reason why Dogecoin is not worth more, the same reason why Ethereum will never go higher than certain price levels when the distribution of the ICO happens fairly and whales don't control 90% of the supply.

it is all about a very simple rule of supply and demand the demand of altcoins will always be inferior and there is nothing to change that. and when the supply is huge there will always be coins available for people to buy without making the price go up.

to put simple when something is scarce it becomes valuable, if you could find Gold grow on trees the value of it would be close to nothing.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Estherth on March 30, 2017, 09:26:13 AM
Because it is centralized


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: dinofelis on March 30, 2017, 09:33:34 AM
to put simple when something is scarce it becomes valuable, if you could find Gold grow on trees the value of it would be close to nothing.

Panda poop is scarce, but I don't know if it is valuable.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: btbrae on March 30, 2017, 09:33:46 AM
Cause they dun goofed the whole distribution model and ended up looking like a bunch of greedy bastards which is what they are. Nobody wants to be part of that.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Ayers on March 30, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
Because it is centralized

and a scam i'll never get tired to repeat this, but ripple can increase their supply when they want, it can't go any higher, the inflation is ridiculous high already, and they use the money to pay their insider


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: jackryderd on March 30, 2017, 11:48:54 AM
Because of supply .
RIPPLE does not reflects it's price due to supply + premine + on margin so always lots of sell pressure


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Rysii on March 30, 2017, 12:05:55 PM
I'm neither pro or anti ripple, but just 10 mins of research debunks all the bullshit opinions by ignorant individuals in this topic labeled as 'facts'.



Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: pugman on March 30, 2017, 12:08:32 PM
same can be said about bitbay! it has the most advanced features and wallet and getting a rollin gpeg in winter. It should have a MK of $50m not $3m


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: papa13 on March 30, 2017, 12:45:02 PM
Ripple's XRP Reserve is based on Game Theory or Nash Equilibrium economics. Google for more info.

XRP rise in price potential in 2017 is very strong after years of sideways movement.

I'm neither for/against Ripple but I like that they're established, I like Ripple's recent activity and also based on what I continue reading, that XRP fits well with banks who will be offering BTC to its customers for commercial use-cases starting June 2017 in Japan.

The following central banks are using Ripple: Japan, England, Abu Dhabi, European Central Bank. Ripple employees hold key board positions with the FED, HSBC, Barclays, BoA, the Bank of England, CHAPS.

Ripple demo between two banks in Canada & Germany using XRP as the bridge currency. https://youtu.be/bAnHzDEP8GM

Japan's Virtual Currency Act must be in play before May 2017 so all BTC exchanges must be in place and working by April 30, 2017. That means BTC will be legally traded and regulated in Japanese exchanges before June 2017. The exchanges offering this trading platform are switching to Ripple. Check SBI Holdongs news releases in Japanese (need a Google browser to translate? My wife is Japanese and she confirmed SBI Holdings news releases Google translations were accurate.)

Royal Mint Gold = RMG = 1 gram of gold = 1st Digital Coin of the Royal Mint
Will be released June 2017 and USA ETF trading of RMG will be hosted by the CME Group also will be using Ripple for their trading platform.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Febo on March 30, 2017, 01:18:18 PM
xrp broke $0.01!

yes, i'm excited

Yes, likely they are pumping it up in preparation of flooding the market with another 1.4 billion ripple.

Ripple tokens available on the market as of December 25th 2016 = 36,003,596,482

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20161225/

Ripple tokens available on the marker as of today = 37,388,960,792

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/


That's 1,385,364,310 or almost 1.4 billion more tokens. Likely at current rate of release another 1.4 billion tokens will be released by July. At today's price that represents a little over $14,375,000 US for the 1.4 billion tokens. Or if they continue to be released at the same rate approximately $57,500,000 US for 2017. Not bad for something created virtually out of thin air. I wonder how deep the pockets of the gullible are. The efforts being put into pumping the token suggests a large release of tokens is imminent. The ripple team is really going to enjoy their summer at the public's expense.


I read somewhere they expect to have around 66 billion XRP out till 2022. SO almost double as now.  In next 10 years whole 100 billions.  I am surprised why price goes up. Or people dont really read and educate themselves before they spend their wealth on Cryptocoins.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: g___ on March 30, 2017, 01:27:19 PM
xrp broke $0.01!

yes, i'm excited

Yes, likely they are pumping it up in preparation of flooding the market with another 1.4 billion ripple.

Ripple tokens available on the market as of December 25th 2016 = 36,003,596,482

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20161225/

Ripple tokens available on the marker as of today = 37,388,960,792

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/


That's 1,385,364,310 or almost 1.4 billion more tokens. Likely at current rate of release another 1.4 billion tokens will be released by July. At today's price that represents a little over $14,375,000 US for the 1.4 billion tokens. Or if they continue to be released at the same rate approximately $57,500,000 US for 2017. Not bad for something created virtually out of thin air. I wonder how deep the pockets of the gullible are. The efforts being put into pumping the token suggests a large release of tokens is imminent. The ripple team is really going to enjoy their summer at the public's expense.

yup, realize that is possibly happening, but for someone who bought wayy below the current price, it's pretty rad.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: shyliar on March 30, 2017, 01:36:48 PM
xrp broke $0.01!

yes, i'm excited

Yes, likely they are pumping it up in preparation of flooding the market with another 1.4 billion ripple.

Ripple tokens available on the market as of December 25th 2016 = 36,003,596,482

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20161225/

Ripple tokens available on the marker as of today = 37,388,960,792

Proof:

http://coinmarketcap.com/


That's 1,385,364,310 or almost 1.4 billion more tokens. Likely at current rate of release another 1.4 billion tokens will be released by July. At today's price that represents a little over $14,375,000 US for the 1.4 billion tokens. Or if they continue to be released at the same rate approximately $57,500,000 US for 2017. Not bad for something created virtually out of thin air. I wonder how deep the pockets of the gullible are. The efforts being put into pumping the token suggests a large release of tokens is imminent. The ripple team is really going to enjoy their summer at the public's expense.

yup, realize that is possibly happening, but for someone who bought wayy below the current price, it's pretty rad.

No doubt. Anytime someone makes a profit it's good news no matter what the currency. Just pointing out some important information.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: btcxyzzz on March 30, 2017, 02:01:01 PM
XRP is centralized Fiat 2.0 shit, that's why.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: namini on March 30, 2017, 03:10:34 PM
People keep repeating "centralised" when Masternode system of Dash is essentially the same as Ripple.


People are afraid about total supply, but Supply of BTC has increased a lot more compared to XRP
https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/2111-xrp-distributed-vs-btc-distributed/


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: g___ on March 30, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
XRP is centralized Fiat 2.0 shit, that's why.

if that were true, why is that bad? taking "decentralized" and personal ethics out of of the equation, a digital replacement of fiat currency would be lucrative AF.


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: papa13 on March 30, 2017, 07:18:38 PM

As of today, Ripple confirmed selected as Blockchain for payments in 5 top banks of Canada.

Please don't spam the forum. Thank you.


Ripple's XRP Reserve is based on Game Theory or Nash Equilibrium economics. Google for more info.

XRP rise in price potential in 2017 is very strong after years of sideways movement.

I'm neither for/against Ripple but I like that they're established, I like Ripple's recent activity and also based on what I continue reading, that XRP fits well with banks who will be offering BTC to its customers for commercial use-cases starting June 2017 in Japan.

The following central banks are using Ripple: Japan, England, Abu Dhabi, European Central Bank. Ripple employees hold key board positions with the FED, HSBC, Barclays, BoA, the Bank of England, CHAPS.

Ripple demo between two banks in Canada & Germany using XRP as the bridge currency. https://youtu.be/bAnHzDEP8GM

Japan's Virtual Currency Act must be in play before May 2017 so all BTC exchanges must be in place and working by April 30, 2017. That means BTC will be legally traded and regulated in Japanese exchanges before June 2017. The exchanges offering this trading platform are switching to Ripple. Check SBI Holdongs news releases in Japanese (need a Google browser to translate? My wife is Japanese and she confirmed SBI Holdings news releases Google translations were accurate.)

Royal Mint Gold = RMG = 1 gram of gold = 1st Digital Coin of the Royal Mint
Will be released June 2017 and USA ETF trading of RMG will be hosted by the CME Group also will be using Ripple for their trading platform.



Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: namini on March 30, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
not bad, but I have better:

https://ripple.com/insights/mufg-joins-ripples-global-payments-steering-group/

http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Deals/Japan-s-BTMU-plans-international-fund-transfers-via-blockchain-in-2018


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: positiveroi on March 30, 2017, 11:53:52 PM
Centralized is why banks are taking up Ripple.

I think the market has been caught up in the hype of DE-CENTRALIZED currency and forgetting that banks want to control their distributed ledger. It is a viable option for banks to incorporate Ripple to decrease settlement costs, and have control over their operations. What bank is going to let a de-centralized currency controlled by miners that secure the network?


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Playboi on March 31, 2017, 12:33:02 AM

As of today, Ripple confirmed selected as Blockchain for payments in 5 top banks of Canada.

Please don't spam the forum. Thank you.


Ripple's XRP Reserve is based on Game Theory or Nash Equilibrium economics. Google for more info.

XRP rise in price potential in 2017 is very strong after years of sideways movement.

I'm neither for/against Ripple but I like that they're established, I like Ripple's recent activity and also based on what I continue reading, that XRP fits well with banks who will be offering BTC to its customers for commercial use-cases starting June 2017 in Japan.

The following central banks are using Ripple: Japan, England, Abu Dhabi, European Central Bank. Ripple employees hold key board positions with the FED, HSBC, Barclays, BoA, the Bank of England, CHAPS.

Ripple demo between two banks in Canada & Germany using XRP as the bridge currency. https://youtu.be/bAnHzDEP8GM

Japan's Virtual Currency Act must be in play before May 2017 so all BTC exchanges must be in place and working by April 30, 2017. That means BTC will be legally traded and regulated in Japanese exchanges before June 2017. The exchanges offering this trading platform are switching to Ripple. Check SBI Holdongs news releases in Japanese (need a Google browser to translate? My wife is Japanese and she confirmed SBI Holdings news releases Google translations were accurate.)

Royal Mint Gold = RMG = 1 gram of gold = 1st Digital Coin of the Royal Mint
Will be released June 2017 and USA ETF trading of RMG will be hosted by the CME Group also will be using Ripple for their trading platform.


what effect do you think this will have of the price of Ripple?


Title: Re: Ripple - Why is the value not higher with all it's features.
Post by: Febo on March 31, 2017, 12:41:39 AM
People keep repeating "centralised" when Masternode system of Dash is essentially the same as Ripple.


People are afraid about total supply, but Supply of BTC has increased a lot more compared to XRP
https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/2111-xrp-distributed-vs-btc-distributed/

Yes and that is one thing that is wrong with DASH. Biggest problem of centralisation is that someone can switch all off. No one can switch off Bitcoin. If any government could they already would. Centralised coins will be switched off as soon as any Government will fell threatened by them.