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Post by: CriminologyProf on March 26, 2017, 06:02:19 AM
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Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: AT101ET on March 26, 2017, 06:10:37 AM
Since you brought up the Coke/Pepsi example ill stick with that too.
Coke has always been more successful than Pepsi although there was a time when Pepsi had a lot of great ads. The same is true with BTC and ETH.
Currently ETH is having a good spree given recent events regarding BTC, but expect that only in the short term. ETH will have its supporters just like Pepsi does, but it will never be near as much as BTC (in this case, coke).


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: xuan87 on March 26, 2017, 06:13:10 AM
If the fork happened many people will start to think to replace bitcoin place, Ether is not really suitable for replacing bitcoin because ether itself got a lot of problem and been forked before so most of the people not really trust eth, but once it is replace by other alt coin bitcoin will be really difficult to become the main crypto currencies, at that time we will labeled bitcoin as an alt coin


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: n0ne on March 26, 2017, 06:15:58 AM
Since you brought up the Coke/Pepsi example ill stick with that too.
Coke has always been more successful than Pepsi although there was a time when Pepsi had a lot of great ads. The same is true with BTC and ETH.
Currently ETH is having a good spree given recent events regarding BTC, but expect that only in the short term. ETH will have its supporters just like Pepsi does, but it will never be near as much as BTC (in this case, coke).
As stated eth has gained a big user base due to the ongoing price drop with bitcoin as well the rise in the capital and price of ethereum along with few other altcoins. This time the price increase is simply enormous and it is suggested by experts as the temporary surge and so anytime the price could fall.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Gaaara on March 26, 2017, 06:16:47 AM
With the coming fork, and the eventual fork itself, do any of you think that at least for a short time, that Bitcoin could crash and be replaced by Ether; with Ether exploding in price as people jump to something they see as more stable in the short term?

I could also see this having a longterm effect, since so many more will be familiar with Ether, it will eventually fall back and remain a close second to Bitcoin. Ether being Pepsi, and Bitcoin being Coke.

Hahahaha I like the way you used cola brands, but do pepsi ever overcome coke? As always coke has more demand than pepsi and like in bitcoin and eth bitcoin is way further than eth, let us say that the price of eth is increasing while bitcoin is in reverse way bitcoin has more features than eth, like for example in my country we can easily convert bticoin into fiat, thats why we will stick with bitcoin no matter what.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: ekoice on March 26, 2017, 06:20:26 AM
With the coming fork, and the eventual fork itself, do any of you think that at least for a short time, that Bitcoin could crash and be replaced by Ether; with Ether exploding in price as people jump to something they see as more stable in the short term?

I could also see this having a longterm effect, since so many more will be familiar with Ether, it will eventually fall back and remain a close second to Bitcoin. Ether being Pepsi, and Bitcoin being Coke.
No way,Ethereum couldnot replace bitcoin even temporarily.ETH is increasing in volume considerably,but it will last only till the bitcoin dispute settles down and then it would go back to its former place.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: dothebeats on March 26, 2017, 06:24:13 AM
Temporarily, yes, since many people including myself is seeing instability in bitcoin as to what should we do moving forward to 'scale.' Also, aside from Ether there are also other coins out there that could be a failsafe if in case bitcoin really falls so hard.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Amph on March 26, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
that's my worry, that another shitcoin replace bitcoin because of this no-sense debate that have the potential to wreck bitcoin

but a pos coin, like ethereum, well not now but in the future ethereum will be pure pos, will never replace bitcoin, better chance can have monero or zcash, but they are more tiny in market cap

if you remove etheruem the only other candidate remain dash as a strong marketcap, all the other are simply too small to be taken seriously


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Yanisumin on March 26, 2017, 08:25:28 AM
Etherium competitiveness make the price of Bitcoin to drop to several percent. But don't worry bitcoins popularity and users still outnumbering ether. Replaced? Theres a possibility but if you think it throughly the popularity of ether will only make the popularity of Bitcoin to grow. If they research about ether they will also let Bitcoin and since Bitcoin has the largest market cap you will fall for Bitcoin instead.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: layoutph on March 26, 2017, 08:33:17 AM
Just incase Bitcoin crashed to whatever reason, the only possible replacement for bitcoin I can see is ETH and not BTU.
Your assuming is right OP.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: cjmoles on March 26, 2017, 08:43:10 AM
I guess I see things differently because I don't see it as one replacing the other....I've been playing with the altcoins for awhile and I move between them for various reasons....There's really no replacement for bitcoin but other altcoins have their qualities that make them better at some things than others....mixing, dark sending, D'Apps, pv messaging, passive incomes....it all comes right back to bitcoin because bitcoin has the backbone that makes it all work.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Spoetnik on March 26, 2017, 09:12:13 AM
Why the hell in gods name is there soooooo many Noobs showing up asking this last couple days ?

Seriously WTF is this shit ?

Is this some coy little game to try and spam about it ?


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: dfd1 on March 26, 2017, 10:11:38 AM
1) Etherium is a botnet
2) There is no any real adoption, etherium holders keep their coins on exchanges and never download a wallet, since they don't want to participiate in a botnet.
3) 3/4 of all etherium clones died after horrible fork, etherium testnets regularly die in horrible fork, this shit generate too many orphans.  There is no way 15 second blocks can exist on decentralized network, so etherium mining probably highly centralized.
4) Massive spam campaign on fake news websites and forums going on.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Ayers on March 26, 2017, 10:20:35 AM
Why the hell in gods name is there soooooo many Noobs showing up asking this last couple days ?

Seriously WTF is this shit ?

Is this some coy little game to try and spam about it ?

many newbie come with the new wave of money injection that is affecting crypto right now, you see all the cryptocoin increased like crazy?,those newbie are the one opening those thread an maybe promoting their scam coin in disguise, i don't trust them, everytime i see someone sayign that X coin will replace bitcoin, i know he is just a bagholder


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: madwica on March 26, 2017, 01:58:55 PM
I dont think so, and i think theres no other coin will replace bitcoin on the top of crypto currency becuase they only depend on the value of bitcoin and also only bitcoin is adopted by more people also in the market.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: judeafante on March 26, 2017, 05:49:55 PM
It's possible but not in a long term,people have trusted bitcoin for very long time everytime it went down it always bounce back.ether is a good alternative.but any amount of development will not suffice to take over bitcoin..


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Spoetnik on March 27, 2017, 05:36:47 AM
Why the hell in gods name is there soooooo many Noobs showing up asking this last couple days ?

Seriously WTF is this shit ?

Is this some coy little game to try and spam about it ?

many newbie come with the new wave of money injection that is affecting crypto right now, you see all the cryptocoin increased like crazy?,those newbie are the one opening those thread an maybe promoting their scam coin in disguise, i don't trust them, everytime i see someone sayign that X coin will replace bitcoin, i know he is just a bagholder

Nope.. try again.  :D


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Iktis on March 27, 2017, 06:01:10 AM
If the fork happened many people will start to think to replace bitcoin place, Ether is not really suitable for replacing bitcoin because ether itself got a lot of problem and been forked before so most of the people not really trust eth, but once it is replace by other alt coin bitcoin will be really difficult to become the main crypto currencies, at that time we will labeled bitcoin as an alt coin

Altcoins people will think about it, but that will never be possible. The main candidates are all corrupted, broken, involved in shady business or crappy. Bitcoin really stand out of the crowd.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Pursuer on March 27, 2017, 06:31:37 AM
many newbie come with the new wave of money injection that is affecting crypto right now, you see all the cryptocoin increased like crazy

you are wrong and to prove it to yourself I propose a simple test.
go somewhere else other than bitcointalk, reddit/r/bitcoin or /r/crypto... or generally any crypto related social media. and then ask people what they know and have heard about cryptocurrencies.

first of all, altcoin is a term that nobody outside these circles have even heard.
secondly if anyone wants to invest, they are definitely going to bitcoin and with a simple quick look at altcoin prices they can see the pump and dumps and most people (newbies that you are talking about) run away scared if they see it.

we are talking about people who are scared to invest in bitcoin, a well established cryptocurrency that we know what it is and what it does and it has been around for 8 years. they won't trust an altcoin that has been around for a short time, is being manipulated and looks shady.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: NUFCrichard on March 27, 2017, 06:46:14 AM
I think that if Bitcoin fails, then in the short term crypto will fail.
If Bitcoin has a messy fork, and trust is lost and the prices fall, ETH could overtake Bitcoin yes, but I doubt it will overtake Bitcoin at $15bil+ market cap.

It could fall less than Bitcoin and overtake it like that, but I hope it doesn't!


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: addias on March 27, 2017, 06:50:36 AM
Honestly, I don’t think so in the short term. Add Coke has always tasted better to me. If there is a BTC fork, one coin will be the dominate one, and that coin should continue to lead the crypto space.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: edgar on March 27, 2017, 08:58:53 AM
ETH =/= HSBC/CITIBANK/ETC

SHIT promoted by wealthy charlatanswho;

A - want your wealth despite not needing it

B - want to shit on everything so they can buy it for less than its value

C - invented pepsi to ruin coke, 120 years later its still shit and only drunk by idiots/sugar junkies #marketing


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: tiggytomb on March 27, 2017, 09:02:03 AM
I think there is far too much invested in bitcoin for it to be tossed aside for whatever reason, if it does suffer a setback it will work it's way back.  ETH will be a competitor to bitcoin and will always be the lesser of the two in my opinion.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: coinplus on March 28, 2017, 06:56:12 PM
I think there is far too much invested in bitcoin for it to be tossed aside for whatever reason, if it does suffer a setback it will work it's way back.  ETH will be a competitor to bitcoin and will always be the lesser of the two in my opinion.
OP is not talking about tossed aside, he is asking if bitcoin could be passed by eth on the price probably. If we are talking about market-cap and the value than yeah maybe eth could pass bitcoins one day, maybe not that is to see, if we are talking about the PR and the userbase than I think it won’t be even remotely close to getting passed, bitcoin won’t be passed on by eth or any other coin in the near or I personally believe in the far future ever.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: iamnotback on March 29, 2017, 03:04:36 AM
Re: Alt shilling increase when Bitcoin is under attack

Not everything is a conspiracy. In case you haven't noticed, there has been a very broad-based rise in the entire altcoin market.

Yeah because the % of the total crypto marketcap (http://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#btc-percentage) in Bitcoin dropped precipitously from the 80s to the 60s.

Although it will bounce back somewhat if the Scalepocalypse crisis is ever resolved (and it won't be any time soon!), this poll (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1837136.0) will tell you (and even explain to you why if you bother to read it) that something has fundamentally changed.

You Bitcoin maximalists are going to become minority owners of the crypto and blockchain ecosystem. Lol.  :P

What this BU vs. Core fuckup did was cause many users which had never installed an altcoin wallet to do so.

BU opened the floodgates to altcoin dominance. Now once these guys get a taste of the freedom-of-choice and higher ROI from altcoins, they won't be coming back. They'll be converting more and more BTC to alts over time.

BU slayed Bitcoin. Or Core did. Depending who you want to blame for the Scalepocalypse.

Well I think Bitcoin will come back up and still $2000+ eventually, but the long-term outlook for Bitcoin has become less certain.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: kryptqnick on March 29, 2017, 07:41:47 AM
Honestly, I don’t think so in the short term. Add Coke has always tasted better to me. If there is a BTC fork, one coin will be the dominate one, and that coin should continue to lead the crypto space.
Well, as for me, bitcoin could become equal with eth in case of the fork, because the btc price would drop and eth's might grow a lot. However, I guess now there is no threat of hard fork, is it? People have been discussing the danger for about a week but nothing happened. Is there some time that has to pass before we can say that the expectations failed? How does it work, really?


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: TravelMug on March 29, 2017, 01:24:51 PM
As for me, ETH could not replace bitcoin yet, it needed more pump but I doubt if investors will still buy ETH right now. They are all moving back to bitcoins because hardfork will not be implemented now. Although ETH experience ATH because of the BU and Core drama, it cannot sustained it. And they already made huge amount of money on ETH already.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: maku on March 29, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
Stick to the bitcoin and collect your money in the future. Altcoins comes and goes, Ethereum is like flavour of the month, move on.
All it takes for flock to panic is little bit of FUD. LISTEN! Community needs to understand it is being manipulated... once again.
Bitcoin Unlimited soon will be gone like Bitcoin Classic and XT before it.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: robelneo on March 29, 2017, 02:12:24 PM
It could but not permanently,if bitcoin falls down people of course not permanently people could look for eth but with so many people working in the betterment of bitcoin it will eventually recover and gain their supremacy back again like they always do.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: alyssa85 on March 29, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
It could be Coke v Pepsi, or it could be MySpace v Facebook.

With MySpace, the users just got fed-up and migrated over. There is some indication that users are getting tired of waiting over an hour for their six confirmations on bitcoin, especially as confirmations afre quicker on Ether (and most alts).

So Bitcoin has a usability issue, which is masked at the moment because speculators outnumber users.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Yanisumin on May 08, 2017, 12:11:08 AM
Just incase Bitcoin crashed to whatever reason, the only possible replacement for bitcoin I can see is ETH and not BTU.
Your assuming is right OP.

Bitcoin is a very complex system, it is hard to crash but it's possible, it is not perfect that's why alternatives cryptocurrencies are created, we must accept the fact that if something goes wrong with it, there no other way but to turn to alternatives and I'm hoping BTC will remain strong and will stand into the top.


I dont think so, and i think theres no other coin will replace bitcoin on the top of crypto currency becuase they only depend on the value of bitcoin and also only bitcoin is adopted by more people also in the market.

Let's take this scenario:
Even if the individual know first about alternatives cryptocurrencies, they will have no choice but to research more on how cryptocurrencies began and for sure he will know about BTC too, when that happens he will realize that BTC is the root of it and has the largest markep cap and he will fall for BTC, resulting in a way that he will be a bitcoiner and alts are just backup coins.

Honestly, I don’t think so in the short term. Add Coke has always tasted better to me. If there is a BTC fork, one coin will be the dominate one, and that coin should continue to lead the crypto space.

When we had our seminar in coca cola factory, they let us watched the history and yes. There are many companies that try to mimic coca cola but failed, even tried to steal the recipe. The thing here is the foundation is solid, BTC can be replace but it will be hard.



Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: hase0278 on May 08, 2017, 07:16:42 AM
I don't think that ethereum can replace bitcoin even if it is short term. Even in the future, I don't think that it would replace ethereum even if there is a new good ETH based token because bitcoin still got more usage than it unless they will add more feature to ethereum besides the ones it has now or bitcoin will crash which is unlikely to happen ever in the near and maybe in the far future.


Title: Re: Could Bitcoin be replaced, at least temporarily, by Ether?
Post by: Viper1 on May 08, 2017, 07:35:40 AM
Bitcoin will be replaced by whatever "crypto" (and I use that term extremely loosely in this case), is in bed with the financial system and so all the wall street money etc flows into it. They'll be the ones to truly bring that sort of "coin" to the masses. It should be apparent by now that no one in the current system has any bloody clue how to make it happen. They're all too focused on tech, gimmicky features and making money from what exists. Not many people these days actually "care" about bitcoin. They're only here to make money and that's it. I don't even know why these questions keep coming up. Of course some day some other "coin" will come along and surpass bitcoin on marketcap charts.