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Title: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: topper26 on March 27, 2017, 11:40:25 AM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on March 28, 2017, 11:07:00 AM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon

Let's hope BU dies ASAP, I can't help but think they'll have another trick up their sleeve. Either under the name BU or the next take over attempt :(


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 28, 2017, 11:15:08 AM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon

Let's hope BU dies ASAP, I can't help but think they'll have another trick up their sleeve. Either under the name BU or the next take over attempt :(

Unless SegWit actually gets activated and functional 100%, we will see more tricks from them, they definitely plan to do something, I also cannot consider BU as dead unless they have 0% hashpower. The weird thing that I still can't understand is why people are supporting it If their software is full of bugs and almost everyone is against them.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: FiendCoin on March 28, 2017, 12:03:15 PM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon

Let's hope BU dies ASAP, I can't help but think they'll have another trick up their sleeve. Either under the name BU or the next take over attempt :(

Unless SegWit actually gets activated and functional 100%, we will see more tricks from them, they definitely plan to do something, I also cannot consider BU as dead unless they have 0% hashpower. The weird thing that I still can't understand is why people are supporting it If their software is full of bugs and almost everyone is against them.

Couple dudes with deep pockets keep it propped up, other wise it would be dead.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: ultrloa on March 28, 2017, 12:56:58 PM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon

Let's hope BU dies ASAP, I can't help but think they'll have another trick up their sleeve. Either under the name BU or the next take over attempt :(

Unless SegWit actually gets activated and functional 100%, we will see more tricks from them, they definitely plan to do something, I also cannot consider BU as dead unless they have 0% hashpower. The weird thing that I still can't understand is why people are supporting it If their software is full of bugs and almost everyone is against them.


Who knows maybe those BU's supporters are just payed so that they can spread some fuds to kill the bitcoins price and truly its happening but suddenly BU has been fallen since we knew bitcoin is more preferable by many people around here. Although their hashpower for now doesn't turn to zero but surely their what so called  supporters will fell down and cameback to support again the real authentic bitcoins.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: xDan on March 28, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
I still can't understand is why people are supporting it If their software is full of bugs and almost everyone is against them.

Just a wiiiiild guess, but maybe people want a larger block size, and have lost trust in Core's willingness to ever deliver one.

If you think "everyone" is against it then you need to leave the echo chamber occasionally.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: zby on March 28, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Is that any news? Samson Mow was always against BU.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: Sniper44 on March 28, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
the sooner we put this BU nonsense behind us the sooner we can move on with advancement of bitcoin, not only in price but also in adoption and development and in one word we can move forward.

i suspect the fate of BU is the same as classic and xt but with a prolonged annoying period.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: Text on March 28, 2017, 02:22:22 PM
No altcoins can beat bitcoin. BTC is so strong, and many users still prefers to have it even they are investing on other coins. BTU is just like of coins that had fallen, sorry they failed the plan. They should learn to use some name and not cloning bitcoin.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: SONG GEET on March 28, 2017, 07:16:06 PM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon
I am pretty worried about the one who may have invested in hypothetical BTU token on bitfinex  ;D
BTU will be rememberd as failed attempt to fork bitcoin just like classic have tried before.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: HabBear on March 28, 2017, 08:17:43 PM
How does one, errr me, watch the goings on with BU? Where are you all getting your news on the latest tricks and moves? Are you just reading news on this Forum? Thanks.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 28, 2017, 08:28:23 PM
How does one, errr me, watch the goings on with BU? Where are you all getting your news on the latest tricks and moves? Are you just reading news on this Forum? Thanks.

If you want to see what the miners actually support: https://coin.dance/blocks otherwise for reading the news then just keep an eye on /r/bitcoin (reddit) and Coindesk/CoinTelegraph.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: HabBear on March 28, 2017, 08:46:38 PM
How does one, errr me, watch the goings on with BU? Where are you all getting your news on the latest tricks and moves? Are you just reading news on this Forum? Thanks.

If you want to see what the miners actually support: https://coin.dance/blocks otherwise for reading the news then just keep an eye on /r/bitcoin (reddit) and Coindesk/CoinTelegraph.

Thanks for this, more questions. At the coin.dance site I see Bitcoin Unlimited, SegWit, and 8 MB Blocks. I don't see Bitcoin Core...is that represented by "8 MB Blocks"?

What do these share numbers need to hit for there to be confirmation that BU has won or lost?

Cheers.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: ArdiPrabowo on March 28, 2017, 09:53:47 PM
i think bitcoin unlimited issue still run and not over
until roger ver and wu, is say bitcoin unlimited stop, so bitcoin unlimited can stop
until now in mining pool bitcoin unlimited still win, with 37% use block bitcoin unlimited


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: Snorek on March 28, 2017, 10:13:22 PM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon

Let's hope BU dies ASAP, I can't help but think they'll have another trick up their sleeve. Either under the name BU or the next take over attempt :(

Unless SegWit actually gets activated and functional 100%, we will see more tricks from them, they definitely plan to do something, I also cannot consider BU as dead unless they have 0% hashpower. The weird thing that I still can't understand is why people are supporting it If their software is full of bugs and almost everyone is against them.
SegWit is not hard fork, it is safer to activate, no risk of 2 coins. We have over 80% nodes already supporting it - unlike BU 11%.
Plus the amount of hidden catches in BU is more scarier than what SegWit is trying to sell us: we can start with 'emergent consensus'.
Once we activate BU we will be forever slaves to it. Future upgrades won't be easier or safer with BU.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on March 28, 2017, 11:13:07 PM
Unless SegWit actually gets activated and functional 100%, we will see more tricks from them, they definitely plan to do something, I also cannot consider BU as dead unless they have 0% hashpower. The weird thing that I still can't understand is why people are supporting it If their software is full of bugs and almost everyone is against them.
People really liked their Idea of having unlimited blocks but they never thought that they were not competent enough to carry the bitcoin flag and the rest of the hash power you see are either paid to do so by the team or the team behind bitmain is providing those fake strength. ;D Yes it is filled with bugs and so is the reason that most of the sane people have lost faith in BU and their journey to over power and over take is over in my opinion.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: dropt on March 29, 2017, 12:16:31 AM
SegWit is not hard fork, it is safer to activate, no risk of 2 coins. We have over 80% nodes already supporting it - unlike BU 11%.
Plus the amount of hidden catches in BU is more scarier than what SegWit is trying to sell us: we can start with 'emergent consensus'.
Once we activate BU we will be forever slaves to it. Future upgrades won't be easier or safer with BU.

BU is dodgy at best, but lets be real here.

Nodes-> Barrier to entry is near zero.  Sybil attacks are a thing.  These combined means it is an unreliable metric to use.

SW safer to activate -> SW nodes will not request blocks from non-SW nodes.  Thus if you're a miner you're forced to upgrade even if you're not in the 95%.  It also opens an attack vector since SW transactions use anyone can spend.  51% attacks can now steal people's coins.

activate BU we will be forever slaves to it ->  See above: anyone can spend.  There is no going back from SW either. 

 


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: European Central Bank on March 29, 2017, 12:22:03 AM
i think bitcoin unlimited issue still run and not over
until roger ver and wu, is say bitcoin unlimited stop, so bitcoin unlimited can stop
until now in mining pool bitcoin unlimited still win, with 37% use block bitcoin unlimited

nah. almost everyone has come out with what they'd do if unlimited actually happened. most of those opinions are not very complimentary and that won't change. the war for the hearts and minds is over.

they can carry on signalling forever, that won't convince the majority that it's any good.



Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: Killerpotleaf on March 29, 2017, 12:29:07 AM
i think bitcoin unlimited issue still run and not over
until roger ver and wu, is say bitcoin unlimited stop, so bitcoin unlimited can stop
until now in mining pool bitcoin unlimited still win, with 37% use block bitcoin unlimited

nah. almost everyone has come out with what they'd do if unlimited actually happened. most of those opinions are not very complimentary and that won't change. the war for the hearts and minds is over.

they can carry on signalling forever, that won't convince the majority that it's any good.

to bad, i was really looking forward to having a dynamic block size that would a) make the block size debate forever closed, and b) possibly lead to optimized fee market (http://www.coindesk.com/charts-determining-ideal-block-size-bitcoin/). but... bu is dead, caput, finito.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: European Central Bank on March 29, 2017, 01:27:51 AM
to bad, i was really looking forward to having a dynamic block size that would a) make the block size debate forever closed, and b) possibly lead to optimized fee market (http://www.coindesk.com/charts-determining-ideal-block-size-bitcoin/). but... bu is dead, caput, finito.

all they gotta do is make it better and address the doubts everyone has. if it passes muster then away we go.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: panju1 on March 29, 2017, 02:09:44 AM
"Advice to those that hitched their wagon to bu: hit eject. Don't be the last clown in the car as it explodes."
 ;D
Put this BU bs to rest and let's go to the moon

Right now, nobody is going to get financially devastated if BU does not get activated. It would have been a different story if a hard fork had been activated and people had been forced to choose between the 2. Thankfully, that hasn't happened yet.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: Carmen_Sandiego on March 29, 2017, 02:30:42 AM
I think there are still a considerable number of miners in favor of the idea. The community and the miners need to come together to reach a consensus.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: pooya87 on March 29, 2017, 04:05:14 AM
this is going to be a long and boring thing where BU stays the same percentage and slowly the spam about it will die first and eventually the developer is going to give up the same way classic gave up after a long and boring period.


Title: Re: Samson mow. Bitcoin unlimited is over.
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on March 29, 2017, 04:54:38 AM
this is going to be a long and boring thing where BU stays the same percentage and slowly the spam about it will die first and eventually the developer is going to give up the same way classic gave up after a long and boring period.
In the beginning the support for BU peaked high over 60% in a short. Soon after that the support got declined and now both are looking to gain support equally. Importantly now bitcoin have started to gain more power along with the increasing price. So as quoted we might experience the BU giving up from the run.