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Fairly recently I got a 0-fee transactions through but it did take 11 days.  Your mileage may vary.  Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future behavior.  Be prepared to recover if your transaction doesn't ever go through.

I watch https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ and until very recently there were about 1500 0-fee transactions per day going through.  Now it looks like there are none in the memory pool and a declining number going through.  Maybe there's another site reporting differently?

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Oh i see.
thank you for sharing bro.
I will do a deep research on it.

Well I use to use coinbase alot because of their feeless transactions, seems like recently they implemented fees too like other services, well not bashing them for years of feeless txes though. Transaction without fees means long wait times or miners would not want to waste the effort for no return.You would be hardpressed to find a feeless transaction service

Use a wallet that lets you set your own fees (such as Bitcoin Core). However, be aware that if you don't pay a high enough fee, it may take a VERY long time for your transaction to confirm (days, weeks, months, or even years).


Those wallets are designed to make the fee decision for the user to protect them from doing something stupid.


Most pay the high fee.  However, they send to hundreds (or thousands) of users in a single transaction.  Therefore, the fee per user is low even though the fee per transaction is high.

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I am not saying without nay fees but with less fees,
i means, few thousand satoshi instead of freaking 1$ fees,
Yesterday i was charged 180,000satoshi for a 8$ transaction.

On my knowledge the mempool times out earlier than 11 days. Assuming you needed to restart your wallet using zapwallettxes=1 and sending same amount again?

But @OP "yes" you can send without any fees. It's just a ballot if those reach their destination, at all. Just adding 1 Satoshi to each byte works marvels.

Why would you want to send btc without paying transaction fee that's not acceptable, there is no fee things here anymore.


11 days seem forever, i would worry if it did go somewhere else if i were you. Its possible to somehow speed up the process like requesting the miners to prioritize your tx, I can't remember how to do it but I've read it here int he forum though. But I'd rather pay.

I think, theoretically, at least for now, no. But, one of my friends said to me that he did it with zero fee and transaction got confirmed. Then I asked him how, he could not explain. Probably lied to me. If you don't want to get angry, do not try to send Bitcoin with zero fee.

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Less fees would be good instead of 1$ fees on a 8$ transaction.
There has to be some way.
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Look at dogecoin, there charges only one coin that is 0.00024$ per transaction.

If you simply want to transfer value from one person to the next, you can use third party services that use off-chain transactions for example

Xapo... it is best suited if you want to do multiple tx without a fee and then 1 tx to get it onto the Blockchain. The last tx is a normal tx, and you

have to pay the miners fee when that is done. Hope that is helpful.  ;D {Both parties obviously have to signup to Xapo for this to work} 

The answer is simply yes. User would only take some fees if they wanted that their transaction would be the main priority of miners because of course for some reasons like rushing

I did not have to zap and resend.  The original transaction went through without any help.  I was comfortable with 11 days; many/most people might not be.

Doing such would be stupidity as blockchain asks for higher fee or recommended ones because that helps you get your transaction set into the block more quickly, 0 fee transactions need a lot more time too even more than the previous guy's comment, because doing it at lower fee nowadays will end up in waiting period to be increased, that's why these people are supporting Bitcoin Unlimited.

virtually every transaction with a number of small fee that will accelerate the block carrying your transactions for the small fee that every transaction that byte is small, while the fee greater then the number of bytes it would be great as well so that it will slow down transactions for each of tract can not transport a lot of transactions , so if it happens to be a lot of number of transactions un confirmed.

yes you can you can choose the fee, so you can set zero, but will take many hours if not days for confirmation, you can use an accelerator to make it faster, but i'm not sure if with zero fee the accelerator will work

Dont go for transaction less bitcoin transfer .as it may take a long time and it can happen that it cant never be confirmed.
Well it is always advisable to have minimum transaction fees to make it confirmed as soon as possible.

zero fee transactions are still transactions, and the reason for them not being confirmed is that either miners ignore them or because there are better transactions (meaning more profitable for them because they have more fee) so obviously miners choose those transactions over a 0 fee one. (it is like a competition)

but when there are no more transactions to fill a block (meaning the memory pool being nearly empty) the zero fees are also included in a block (miners pick them up too)

so your friend may not have lied to you since for the past week mempool have been nearly empty.

Currently there are not really many options. Fees are becoming a must. However most people I am trading with are telling me xapo has no fees as of now. Secondly as you might know coinbase.com has also introduced fees. But if the other party also uses a coinbase.com ac then no fees for both the parties that's the only alternative this days. Otherwise all need to pay fees and that is really sad we need to figure all this things out.

i think the answer is yes we can but i don't know when the time that bitcoin will arrived into destination wallet and how long to gets confirmed from the network. i am not trying to send without any fees, because i am sure that it will need more days before it gets confirmed and it will makes boring to just waiting too long.

Yes you can but i don't think it will confirm

Web wallets simply suggest you enough fees required by your transaction to get confirmation as fast as possible but if you are ok with waiting for few hours/days you can just lower that suggested fee by few %.

Most of the direct faucet pays in bulk so that they only have to pay fee once to send out bitcoin to hundreds of users.

Sending bitcoin to multiple addresses on one transaction can lower fees significantly.

That's right but If you're become an user of xapo then It is possible to send Bitcoins without paying any fee. Concern that coinbase to coinbase user transactions still free of cost. Besides this, other wallet you must have paid fee or your transactions will be unconfirmed.

Some payment processors does allow free internal transactions, outside transactions needs a fee otherwise you can loose your coins or your transaction wont be confirmed. There are some altcoins with those free of fees, but they are vere new into the market to trust them big ammounts.

You are not right that Direct paying faucets pay less fees. They are paying same fees like everyone, just check transaction of payment from faucet and you will see it. But fees are to big for mostly faucets owners and this is why they are using micropayments proccessors.
You can send bitcoins without paying fees, but it will take ages to confirm transaction.
Or you can use Xapo, they don't charge fees for transactions, but only for transactions which are bigger than minimal allowed amount.

There are some bitcoin wallet can send bitcoin for free but there a cap maximum amount, but if you send beyond of the maximum amount of their free then there is a fee on that transaction. ex. 0.01 free for charges and beyond that they will put a charges .

The fees don't seem that high to me, but I can imagine that if you live in a country where sig campaign earnings can feed your family for a week,  they'd be considerable.  I sent a few bucks a couple weeks ago with a ridiculously small fee, and it got stuck in the network for like 5 days.  So it can be done but as others have mentioned,  you'll be waiting a long ass time.

Its seems you are pretty old member in Bitcoin world. A good number of beginner joining this bitcoin industry at every second so this transactions fee a good matter. You can't expect pay a bigger fee then your daily earning specially beginner.

Bitcoin transaction confirmation without​ including at least a small transaction fee is highly impossible. I believe few wallets provide transaction within their own network sometimes gets confirmation without fee included to the transaction.

According to me You can Send a Bitcoin Transaction Without Fees But I Don't Suggest You to Do that Because If you Send Some Bitcoin to Other Wallet with No Fees then the Transaction Will Not Confirm Or Take a Long Period to Confirm. So Don't Send Bitcoin with No Fees Or Less Fees..

If that site sending bitcoin without fees...then how that site can survive without fees...

what site is that?

in case you are talking about Coinbase or i think Xapo or any other service, they DO send the transactions with fees if they are doing an on-chain transaction and they don't need fees if it is off-chain and inside their own website from account to account;
they just don't take the fees from their users. and they compensate it with other types of fees they take from their users such as the fee they take for purchasing bitcoin and the higher price of bitcoin.

Yes of course but too long to confirm, it may take 4-5 days or even weeks my last transaction took almost 6 days,when I send 2 usd worth of bitcoins with very low fees compared to standard fees pretty bad if you're in a hurry.

Ive seen some people here complaining that their transactions haven't past through and did not receive any BTC in their wallets, dont know if that was legit. But if it's true i guess the root cause of it, is the bitcoin scaling problem.
This year faucets may become obsolete if they're still paying low amount of btc cause it may take several days to get confirmed as long as there is no current solutions in the scaling problem.

Coinbase used to have a free transaction fee for attracting new clients to use their wallet,
you can use bitcoinfees21.com to see what the recommended fee for the amount you are going
to send or add an additional fee to increase the chance of confirmation. I've been using bitcoinfees21.com
for several months now and so far I am satisfied with their service

thiw now volume transaction bitcoin sending is very big
if you use sending fee is low maybe you wan without fee zero fee maybe is nothing confirmation youre transaction

you can try in xapo wallet if you want sending fee is low

I think that would depend in the country or place. Here in my country, we had a merchant here that once you had bitcoin balance you can send bitcoin in any exchange sites with a minimal fee or less fee only, And I think bitrrex was also a good one to try to send BTC in other wallets.

Do it on Sundays! Last Sunday, even fees under 10,000 Satoshi per byte got confirmed within 30 minutes, according to https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx . I've seen the number of unconfirmed transactions as low as 800.

Meanwhile, most people even then used much higher fees. I think most wallet software by now by default takes a fee high enough to compete with other users, but since almost everybody does that, the end-result is we all pay more without getting the priority we want.

If you have received many small payments in the past, a Sunday with few unconfirmed transactions is the best moment to send them all together to one new address. Bitcoin Core lets me choose exactly what fee I want for this.
Note the risk though, your low-fee-transactions can quite suddenly be overtaken by higher fee transactions, which means you'll be waiting for a very long time.

Do you know bro how it is done.?

If you want to send bitcoins without any miner fees try using coins. Ph. This site is available to the Philippines and if you are living in that country you can send bitcoins without making fees at all. To enjoy it you must live in the Philippines and must provide sufficient documents that you exist in that country.

There are many types of wallets on the market today, and most of them are very reputable. That is nice, however, each wallet regulates a different charge for the transaction, and accordingly according to the speed of the transaction, you pay a large fee, your transaction will be Handle fast and vice versa. Everything has rules, you can not avoid it, use any wallet you trust.

I think no.Because fees are just the reason why blockchain and any processor is up till now.Exchangers profit is just only coming from fees we pay for everytransactions.

Most of you are telling to use  coinbase and xapo, as internal transfers are free of charges. But you can't force people to use web based wallets BECAUSE you won't pay fees... There are people who just don't give a shit to web wallets and some hate them with passion. What are you going to say if for exemple you are paying for a service: "make a wallet at coinbase/xapo because i don't want to pay the fees" ?

Can you really imagine 11 days being acceptable for any modern transaction? Without a doubt, bitcoin has priced itself out of the small transaction market. I don't mean just micro transactions but even sending $20 to a friend that loaned you pizza money is out of the question now.

Hell, old fashioned checks are better than bitcoin now. I live near the beach and walked there one day but didn't take my wallet. A friend of mine shows up and asks if I want to walk across the street to the Beach Chalet and grab lunch. I told him I had no money on me but if he covered the bill and dropped me off at home I'd give him a check. After lunch (and a couple of beers) he dropped me off at my place, I wrote him a check for $37 to cover my half of lunch, he passed my bank on the way home and immediately got his money. That transaction didn't cost either of us a penny.

Bitcoin is completely removed from a huge number of transactions now. Circle now sends money worldwide for almost nothing. What's left for bitcoin?

There are many ways to send btc without any fees. Sometimes it is because the wallet you use and sites that you use. Here in my country I use only 1 kind of wallet and whenever I send/receive transactions is that it didn't deduct any fees on my money. When you are gere in my country I suggest to you to use coins.ph because it is very reliable and good and it didn't deduct any fees. So if you want to send any btc in your friend it is the best wallet to you to use. :)

I agree to you because there are so many available wallets in market that we can use today, and especially you can use if you don't want any fees when making trasactions in btc. And the quality of that wallets are so good. Just like here in my country we use coins.ph because it is very reliable and it is free for any fees. Hope you find something that is just like our wallet so that your questions will get answers. :) Goodluck Bro.

Probably not anymore, because mempools are pretty much constantly full and fees are getting higher and higher.

There's no incentive for miners to accept 0 fee transactions if they can accept transactions that pay fees instead.

To solve the high fees problem,i temporarily use exchange wallet for transaction.They charge 0.0001 btc as fee and transaction is also very fast.But i dont know whether this idea is recommendable or not.

Coinbase taxed me just 3.6k satoshis for 3M sats sending in a different wallet. Though it is free from last month I guess it is still okay as long as my funds will be received to the other account.
I would not mind that kind of number.
Actually it is like every free website wallets now are putting transaction fees for every time you send bitcoin.
Might use Coinbase more if they wont make it higher.

I do have a simple doubt ,i am seeing that you are able to send many transaction at once,how is it done,do we add many address to the sent bitcoin space with a comma,i am not sure how that is done and i am using an web wallet and i have not seen any options to do that,so i would like to know the trick to send to many users with one transaction fee.

You could send a zero fee transaction but it wont get through and it might reach your wallet after some time,bitcoin is not designed to send coins without any fees and if you even try to send that it will get rejected at a later time and it might take months to get that transaction cancelled.So understand the risk in sending zero fee transaction.You can still use the minimum amount as fees which i think is 0.00007 BTC but it might take a really long time to get through but it was fine six months back but now it is really difficult .

You can push your transactions via viabtc they will rebroadcast your transactions but due to very large volume coming in,you will have to try a lot of times and about faucets they are using an escrow service,they don't sent satoshis instantly,there is a minimum payout threshold.

I'm already a few years involved in bitcoin world and never worried to much about fees or sending bitcoin from one wallet to other.
Each time I will just choose standard fee, offered by blockchain, and send bitcoins.
Recently, I had several btc transaction with a very long waiting time for confirmation, more than 24 hours.
After such experience, I always chose higher fee than recommended.
If you really think that sending btc without any fees will save you either money or time, good luck with it :)
I will not recommend it.

Therefore, the answer was yes! that is very much possible. However, it just only need that all must be a xapo users for them to experience in sending bitcoin without any fees. Isn't its a little bit confuse those who will try your suggestion? ;)

Yes. I too will not recommend it because if everyone start doing it then think about the problems it'll arise to the miners and to the Bitcoin universe.
You can change the fees for your transaction by making a wallet which has the feature to do that. But it's better if you pay a little fees to the system when system is giving you much in return.  ;)

You can send transaction without fee.  But the problem with this is the confirmation which is stated on the first reply.  But if you are aching for free transfers then you can create a web wallet on some sites that enable you to send bitcoin without fee since they are the one shouldering the transaction fee.  One of which is Xapo.

The increase in the fee is due to reason because the miners became very less in the whole world so to overcome this type of load the fee increases by the user to user to gain the speed confirmation .
Second thing that directfauct are sending your payout with small charge is only reason that they pay also for your withdraw in small amount , so that full pressure to pay the fee will not go in the faucet or on the users .
Third thing here is that Currently safe ways to make payment without transaction fee is not much safe ( coinbase and xapo changes Thier rules and started to take charge for the transactions ) .
Here I will suggest you to use blockchain and change the fee of your transaction ( but not more less ) .

XAPO implemented now some fees when doing transaction IIRC month/s ago. And recently Coinbase and our local exchanger, coins.ph have the same feature. Well for me no issues here since Im getting the services what I need especially to our local exchanger.

Maybe I will just be pissed off if I found the fees not a reasonable fees to be consider especially if I will just use an average amount (not big or small) when doing a transaction.

No you can't do because currently I don't believe any free fee transactions service that involves on the doubtful questions .
Since still here a big option for you to use it legitely that is you can use zebpay wallet where you can make transactions free of cost but you need toake transaction from zebpay to zebpay wallet otherwise you will charged for the fee 0.0003btc which is not a big amount (.The given Amount is suitable for us to get speed confirmation )

I wouldn't recommend to set your fee at 0, but you can choose to pay a lower fee than your wallet suggests if you agree to wait several hours for the first confirmation. Several days ago I paid two times lower fee than was suggested and the transaction was confirmed in 4 hours.

Right now you can transfer from $10 bucks up to $1,000,000,000 bucks with just spending $1 buck as a miner fee and receive the funds in another side after approximately 30 minutes. now could you show me a similar system with such safety and popularity as bitcoin any where in the world?
I think many people are very ungrateful and always trying to blame and smash bitcoin. I agree that something must be done to reduce the fees required to transfer small amounts but that should be temporary and we shouldn't try to transact small amounts all the time instead go and use other so called cheap alternatives for penny deposits and withdrawals and let bitcoin be for larger amounts $10+ and stop bi**hing around until the danger of hard fork has past.

You can send the bitcoins without fees through coinbase , apart from that any other web wallet or desktop wallet all needs to be send through correct fees, if not the transaction gets delay in confirmation and if you are sending without any fees then just forget for some days and if you are lucky it will get confirmed it not then you will get return back to your wallet.

Hope you are not following the news lately ,with the ever increasing price for transaction no company will be willing to send coins without taking the fees from the customers and that is the case with coinbase and they have started collecting fees from every transaction and it is really huge in my opinion as they are not even sending the coins instantly even by taking 0.00046 btc as transaction fees but Xapo still does not take fees from the users in my experience.

maybe you can use the wallet xapo because they still negate the transaction fee , but you should be prepared with all the possible delay of the transaction and any transaction fee is adjusted by the amount bitcoin that will be sent it was reasonable. and I think fee it's trivial problem because they are entitled to get it

For now i think there is no wallet that you can send without a fee except for xapo.. Also in our local wallet..
here in my country we have a wallet which is no fee intransaction.. like coinbase before but right now coinbase is asking for when you are sending. .
So for now the alternative is xapo..
But if you are here in philippines you can use coins.ph as wallet they are not asking for fee for every transactions.

hello mate.. anyway, i use xapo wallet. and it offers no fee in sending bitcoins but unfortunately charge you in receiving bitcoin if you are only receiving below 46k sats i think. but above than that you can receive without charge..

you can see more here..

https://in.xapo.com/fees/

just like most of the comments here, xapo is definitively a good choice to make. you can visit there FAQ to know more..

This feature doesn't help me, if I have to spend $2-3 to buy a coffee. It is possible for Bitcoin to expand its use cases to include even micro transactions, if its adoption is to increase. This is especially true in third world countries.

I also agree with you that blockchain started a craze for a fee if you do not pay a large fee then your transaction will require a very long time to conrim.. of course without fee your transaction will fail

A few years ago this was possible, but today I do not think that is possible. On the one hand this is a good thing, as it is a sign that the network is really growing, but if fees remain too high some users will migrate to other alternatives.

Ive been using coinbase way back before until now because they dont really deduct fees on each transaction you would made but now they are charging up fees which they are already the same on most web wallets and to blockchain you can send bitcoin without fees but expect longer confirmation times.

That longer confirmation is also said that it can not be confirmed, this is what they say everytime I try to remove the fee from blockchain. Thus, charges in sending bitcoin is must since they users need to pay for miners in processing the blocks of transactions.

I don’t know I feel like if we keep giving the miners what they are asking for they will keep asking for more, at first you could send the bitcoin and they arrive instantly and you won’t have to worry about the fees because they were so small that you don’t notice them.

But miners are getting greedy and they are asking for fees that even after giving it the transaction doesn’t seem to be that faster, and if people start paying more and more they will keep getting greedy and eventually the bitcoin will become like any other bank transaction.

You don't have any choice but to allow miners to control transactions. That's the design. If mining was more decentralized it would be less of a problem. The issue really revolves around the expense of mining. When mining was possible on any computer CPU it could be very decentralized. Now that mining is reserved for wealthy mining consortiums, control of transaction acceptance is highly centralized. Unfortunately, it will only get worse as the mining reward continues to drop and company profits rely on transaction fees.