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Title: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Rampion on April 23, 2013, 11:15:03 AM
Given the difficulty projections now that BFL has started to ship (slowly) and ASICMINER is preparing a big deployment, I'm wondering what price we will have for Avalon batch #4.

They said shipping will be between late May and early June - nevertheless, because of past history I would count on receiving the units not before than July.

I would expect the difficulty go x4 from here to July, plus a very steep increase as soon as the Avalon chips hit the network (August/September?), thus I would pass on a 90GHs Avalon priced above 50BTC. At current exchange rate that would be still $72.2 per GHs ($6,500 for a 90GHs machine), which is pretty expensive when compared to the $50 per GHs of a BFL miner. Nevertheless, I believe that the higher cost of the Avalon would be justified because of their history of providing the product in (more or less) the announced timeframe.

What I'm afraid of is that the pricing will be MUCH higher.

What do you think? What will be the pricing for batch #4? And how much would you be willing to pay for a batch #4 machine, 45 or 90GHs?





Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: kjlimo on April 23, 2013, 12:20:11 PM
When are they accepting orders?

If it's this week, I may bite... however, one week may be the answer for whn I get my BFL gear... at which point I'll be content with my purchase.

If they allow me to order this week for a 90GH unit, I may consider throwing 30-40 BTCs at it.


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Wayne_Chang on April 23, 2013, 12:24:47 PM
I think there will not be any batch#4 as Avalon is selling chips now.
Avalon team mentioned before that selling mining machine is not the initial purpose for them. Now BFL already start to ship their mining machine and there are many persons willing to buy Avalon chips. It's unnecessary for them to continue selling mining machines by themselves.


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Rampion on April 23, 2013, 12:24:57 PM
When are they accepting orders?

If it's this week, I may bite... however, one week may be the answer for whn I get my BFL gear... at which point I'll be content with my purchase.

If they allow me to order this week for a 90GH unit, I may consider throwing 30-40 BTCs at it.

Well, I would consider a bargain 30BTC for 90GHs. I would buy +10 of those. 50BTC I would think it is a fair price and I would still buy more than 1 unit, considering that would mean a 30 days ROI with x3 difficulty (27 million).

More than 50BTC for 90GHs, I would think very well about it and maybe I would buy just 1 unit as a gamble. If the pricing is more than 65BTC per 90GHs, I will pass for sure unless they could guarantee immediate shipping (which unfortunately is not how it works).



Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Rampion on April 23, 2013, 12:26:07 PM
I think there will not be any batch#4 as Avalon is selling chips now.
Avalon team mentioned before that selling mining machine is not the initial purpose for them. Now BFL already start to ship their mining machine and there are many persons willing to buy Avalon chips. It's unnecessary for them to continue selling mining machines by themselves.

Well, not everybody can set up mining units from the chips. I would personally love to be able to buy some batch #4 units if a) the pricing and b) the expected shipping timeframe are reasonable.


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Joshster on April 23, 2013, 12:27:33 PM
I wouldn't mind buying a Batch #4 but I don't have that amount of BTC and getting hold of them for me is proving quite difficult, also I don't have much electronic experience so buying the chips wouldn't be of any use to me.


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: lambdaE on April 23, 2013, 12:31:43 PM
I guess they will auction batch #4 devices.


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Joshster on April 23, 2013, 12:32:56 PM
I guess they will auction batch #4 devices.


The cost will sky rocket in my opinion so they will be out of my price range sadly.


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: co5hike on April 23, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
I guess they will auction batch #4 devices.

Unfortunatelly it will be best option for Avalon.

Good thing is we can still buy cheap BFL units, but expected delivery during next year imho


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: salihno71 on April 23, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Two module Avalon will be an interesting option.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177386.0


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Rampion on April 23, 2013, 02:04:04 PM
I guess they will auction batch #4 devices.

Unfortunatelly it will be best option for Avalon.

Good thing is we can still buy cheap BFL units, but expected delivery during next year imho

I really hope they don't do that.


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: sunblaster on April 23, 2013, 03:41:23 PM
30-40btc for 45ghs unit and june delivery

Or

20-35 9if july/august


Title: Re: Avalon batch #4 pricing? Speculate here...
Post by: Rampion on April 23, 2013, 03:45:45 PM
30-40btc for 45ghs unit and june delivery

Or

20-35 9if july/august

Well, frankly: there is a huge difference between 30BTC or 40BTC

Even greater between 20BTC and 35BTC

40BTC seems too much for a 45GHs unit, even if it's delivered in June (we all know it will most likely delivered in July, if everything goes well). 30BTC would be OK IMO, but 25BTC would be really great and would attract a lot of customers which are now thinking on BFL

35BTC for July/August would be crazy IMO, the difficulty will be at least x5 what we have now. 20BTC for August? That would be nice.