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Title: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on March 29, 2017, 10:22:39 AM
Hello,

Tried many bitcoin casinos and all of them disappointed me. Some takes long time for deposit confirmations, some have stupid rollovers and some asking for id scans.

I just want to play fast, withdraw fast, without any stupid rollovers and id scans.

Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?

Thanks in advance guys !

I even could pay for each such casino link :D


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: piloder on March 29, 2017, 10:42:36 AM
There are few casinos that accept deposit with zero confirmation but You will not find any casino that will allow you to make any withdrawal before your deposit get confirmed. Satoshimines is one example which will add you deposit to your account without any confirmation but you have to wait to make withdrawal.

Also haven't heard about them asking for any ID documents, they also don't have any bonus so there is no any roll-over/wagering requirement.

Duckdice is also another one that accept deposit upto 0.01BTC without any network confirmation.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: RocketSingh on March 29, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?

In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: HCP on March 29, 2017, 10:58:58 AM
In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do.
Are you referring to the scam where a user deposits into a zero confirmation casino... immediately gambles on a BIG payout bet... if they win, they just let everything confirm and claim their winnings, but if they lose they immediately execute an RBF transaction to attempt to recover their funds?

I concur... you are just asking for someone to try and game the system and cause all sorts of chaos


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: Red-Apple on March 29, 2017, 11:03:27 AM
In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do.
Are you referring to the scam where a user deposits into a zero confirmation casino... immediately gambles on a BIG payout bet... if they win, they just let everything confirm and claim their winnings, but if they lose they immediately execute an RBF transaction to attempt to recover their funds?

I concur... you are just asking for someone to try and game the system and cause all sorts of chaos

this is not possible, the casino has to be really stupid to allow that to happen.
first of all those places that accept 0 confirmation transactions don't allow you to withdraw, so even if you win you have to wait for the first one to confirm and if you lose and double spend you will surely be banned (account and IP). in the end casino doesn't lose anything, you just tried their platform!

also there are some other criterias the tx has to meet. you can easily check to see if it is signalling RBF, if it has any unconfirmed input, or if it has very low fees, etc in other words you do a risk assessment and then let the user play.

and i should also add that RBF is not double spend, you can't change the new output in the tx, you have to have the same output otherwise it is double spend and nodes will reject it.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: Japinat on March 29, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
If you are referring for the casino's bonuses then you cannot do anything about it, they have there rules and you need to follow in order to be eligible. I'm pretty sure that most casinos does not require you to submit your documents because in any way they still preserve the anonymity in gambling which attracts more gamblers.

In the past I won a bonus and it requires me to do the rollover and I completed it and ended with a profit, but after they require me to submit an id and any receipt for address verification, I complied all of the requirement so I successfully claim my reward.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on March 29, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
There are few casinos that accept deposit with zero confirmation but You will not find any casino that will allow you to make any withdrawal before your deposit get confirmed. Satoshimines is one example which will add you deposit to your account without any confirmation but you have to wait to make withdrawal.

Also haven't heard about them asking for any ID documents, they also don't have any bonus so there is no any roll-over/wagering requirement.

Duckdice is also another one that accept deposit upto 0.01BTC without any network confirmation.

Yes I understand that for withdrawal I need confirmations, it's okay.
Thanks for reply, will try these ! ;)


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on March 29, 2017, 11:51:46 AM
If you are referring for the casino's bonuses then you cannot do anything about it, they have there rules and you need to follow in order to be eligible. I'm pretty sure that most casinos does not require you to submit your documents because in any way they still preserve the anonymity in gambling which attracts more gamblers.

In the past I won a bonus and it requires me to do the rollover and I complicated it ending with a profit, but after they require me to submit an id and any receipt for address verification, I complied all of the requirement so I successfully claim my reward.

I am not looking to get bonuses. Thanks for your post, if you know some sites which accepts zero confirms, let me know. I am looking such sites because I could play fast, to not wait for confirms just to play.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: Ayers on March 29, 2017, 03:45:34 PM
Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?

In a world of RBF, accepting zero confirmation deposit is the stupidest thing a bitcoin casino may do.

yeah you can do abandon transaction now so accepting zero confirmation is risky for the receiver, maybe the sender send the coina nd then abandon the transaction and get the bitcoin back plus the profit from the casino, in the past there was the need to wait for the mempool to send back the transaction which was not confirmed and was 48 hours if my memory serves me right


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: maydna on March 29, 2017, 04:02:56 PM
Hello,

Tried many bitcoin casinos and all of them disappointed me. Some takes long time for deposit confirmations, some have stupid rollovers and some asking for id scans.

I just want to play fast, withdraw fast, without any stupid rollovers and id scans.

Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?

Thanks in advance guys !

I even could pay for each such casino link :D

maybe you are not yet to found bitcoin gambling sites that work with you and this makes you getting loss in many sites. i think if you want to found that sites you mention, then i think there are many sites that don't need to have too long to waiting for deposit money, without rollovers and without id scans because as far as i know, the bitcoin gambling sites don't need this. as long as you send the bitcoin into the wallet, then you can start to playing gambling and you can withdraw it with easy.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: giveen on March 29, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for.
The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc.
Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on March 30, 2017, 08:02:30 AM
Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for.
The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc.
Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.


Thank you. Will try these.
Sportbet.io need 5x rollover for roulette game.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: ralle14 on March 30, 2017, 08:19:55 AM
Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for.
The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc.
Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.

Sportsbet.io asks for verification in the future when your withdrawals reach about up to 10btc this is stated in their terms. They are also connected with vegascasino.io and bitcasino.io so they have the same terms.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on March 30, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
Alright first of all fortunejack isn't a site you should actually be looking for.
The sites which you should use are yolodice they process your payments instantly for amount till 0.1 btc.
Sportsbet.io deposits your payment within a min with any amount and without any confirmation.

Sportsbet.io asks for verification in the future when your withdrawals reach about up to 10btc this is stated in their terms. They are also connected with vegascasino.io and bitcasino.io so they have the same terms.

vegascasino.io asking documents right away, after requested to withdraw about $60...
Sportbet.io asking 5 times rollover.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: ralle14 on March 30, 2017, 09:56:41 AM

vegascasino.io asking documents right away, after requested to withdraw about $60...
Sportbet.io asking 5 times rollover.

I don't know about x5 rollover on roulette I only use their sportsbook i'll ask their support about this. After talking with their live support the rollover for casino bonuses starts at 30x and the wager contribution for roulette is at 10%. The x5 rollover they said is only on their sportsbook bonus terms (https://sportsbet.io/about/bonus-terms).


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: Loepuenkyou on March 30, 2017, 10:02:59 AM
all bitcoin casino site and bitcoin gambling site no need verified ID, still anonymous
about zero deposit confrimastion, you never found gambling site or casino site use zero deposit confirmation


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on March 30, 2017, 10:20:59 AM

vegascasino.io asking documents right away, after requested to withdraw about $60...
Sportbet.io asking 5 times rollover.

I don't know about x5 rollover on roulette I only use their sportsbook i'll ask their support about this. After talking with their live support the rollover for casino bonuses starts at 30x and the wager contribution for roulette is at 10%. The x5 rollover they said is only on their sportsbook bonus terms (https://sportsbet.io/about/bonus-terms).

I alo talked with live support and asked about wager contributor at 10% and they said they can't do it. Hmm looks to each person different answers from support ;)


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on March 30, 2017, 10:24:20 AM
all bitcoin casino site and bitcoin gambling site no need verified ID, still anonymous
about zero deposit confrimastion, you never found gambling site or casino site use zero deposit confirmation

There arent any casino which confirms deposits with zero confirmations, because it would be dumbest thing for casinos to do.. but some casinos letting play without waiting confirmations so we can play fast, but of course in order to withdraw, deposit must have confirmations.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: jaberwock on March 30, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
Even accept 0 confirmations only to play is a bad idea, because you can deposit with low priority, play, and if you win, you let the transaction go through and be confirmed, if you lose, then you can double spend with high priority and lose nothing.

I don't know what the casinos that accept 0 confirmation payments do to avoid such situations


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: poplolnman on March 30, 2017, 11:45:08 AM
Even accept 0 confirmations only to play is a bad idea, because you can deposit with low priority, play, and if you win, you let the transaction go through and be confirmed, if you lose, then you can double spend with high priority and lose nothing.

I don't know what the casinos that accept 0 confirmation payments do to avoid such situations
a lot of casino aware about this scenario and they have set the rules about it too, if you follow the directbet case where someone caught double spending attempt to bet there as directbet accept 0 confirmation you would know (yeah it wasn't a casino but still it could be an example) sportsbet.io accept 0 confirmation (they have a casino) but i wouldn't recommend to play there. i wish op have no bad agenda behind ask for this as i can see he has neg trust about hacking stuff and money laundering.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: rytyr on March 30, 2017, 12:15:27 PM
all bitcoin casino site and bitcoin gambling site no need verified ID, still anonymous
about zero deposit confrimastion, you never found gambling site or casino site use zero deposit confirmation
Directbet I think they do not need you to wait for confirmation on your deposits.
When I placed a bet (even without an account just tracked by btc withdrawal address) and sent the btc to the deposit address it was processed and a confirmed bet immediately. No bitcoin send confirms within secs of sending the bitcoin to the blockchain. It isn't like an ethereum send where it's confirmed in a matter of seconds after being received by the etherchain.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: bering on March 30, 2017, 12:29:55 PM
all bitcoin casino site and bitcoin gambling site no need verified ID, still anonymous
about zero deposit confrimastion, you never found gambling site or casino site use zero deposit confirmation
Directbet I think they do not need you to wait for confirmation on your deposits.
When I placed a bet (even without an account just tracked by btc withdrawal address) and sent the btc to the deposit address it was processed and a confirmed bet immediately. No bitcoin send confirms within secs of sending the bitcoin to the blockchain. It isn't like an ethereum send where it's confirmed in a matter of seconds after being received by the etherchain.
not only directbet i guess because there are some bitcoin casinos able zero deposit confirmations but i think the main problem is OP has looking casinos which is offering bonus with no rollovers requirements but as far as i know that all casinos is not allowed this policy and bonus deposit always have wagering requirements to completed for every players before able to withdraw


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: torry28 on March 30, 2017, 01:30:10 PM
all bitcoin casino site and bitcoin gambling site no need verified ID, still anonymous
about zero deposit confrimastion, you never found gambling site or casino site use zero deposit confirmation
Directbet I think they do not need you to wait for confirmation on your deposits.
When I placed a bet (even without an account just tracked by btc withdrawal address) and sent the btc to the deposit address it was processed and a confirmed bet immediately. No bitcoin send confirms within secs of sending the bitcoin to the blockchain. It isn't like an ethereum send where it's confirmed in a matter of seconds after being received by the etherchain.
not only directbet i guess because there are some bitcoin casinos able zero deposit confirmations but i think the main problem is OP has looking casinos which is offering bonus with no rollovers requirements but as far as i know that all casinos is not allowed this policy and bonus deposit always have wagering requirements to completed for every players before able to withdraw

No. Read the whole thread again (especially all of OP's posts). He was said if he doesn't want/looking for a bonuses from casino because of the (stup*d) rollovers requirement.
If you are referring for the casino's bonuses then you cannot do anything about it, they have there rules and you need to follow in order to be eligible. I'm pretty sure that most casinos does not require you to submit your documents because in any way they still preserve the anonymity in gambling which attracts more gamblers.

In the past I won a bonus and it requires me to do the rollover and I complicated it ending with a profit, but after they require me to submit an id and any receipt for address verification, I complied all of the requirement so I successfully claim my reward.

I am not looking to get bonuses. Thanks for your post, if you know some sites which accepts zero confirms, let me know. I am looking such sites because I could play fast, to not wait for confirms just to play.

some have stupid rollovers


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: dossantosleite on April 19, 2017, 05:23:05 PM
Any more sites, guys ? ;)


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: sikke on April 19, 2017, 06:26:43 PM
To be honest, I need to admit that I hate to wait for confirmations too, when it comes to gambling.
I always prefer just to play instantly, few minutes after sending the transaction. Waiting for confirmations makes me insane every single time.

Actually i dont know any gambling sites which require ID documents, maybe KYC with big withdrawals, but that is only in some rare cases.

Getting back to the main subject of the thread, I really like 999dice, because they do have 0 confirmation deposits, they do not ask for giving an identity, and I also never heard about rollovers over there.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: jaceefrost on April 19, 2017, 06:34:40 PM
Any more sites, guys ? ;)
I play in bitstarz and deposits does not require any confirmation I think. The balance will immediately appear in your account after a few moment. It doesn't require ID or identity verifications unless you are withdrawing a huge amount of btc from your account.
No rollover as well unless you are playing with a bonus coin or a free spin.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: maydna on April 20, 2017, 01:09:47 AM
Any more sites, guys ? ;)

do you try site in under my name?  ;D because i am playing in that site too and i also make investing with them with small amount and for every weeks, i can have some extra satoshi that i can withdraw although its only small profit at least, i don't have to playing gambling too often like other people. sometimes i am playing games in that site but i am not always win like others and i only search for fun in my free time so i don't think too much for playing gambling.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: Lionidas on April 20, 2017, 02:26:16 AM
I like directbet for the fact you don't need to have an account there thus not needing to verify anything when using their services and get the payment sent directly to you without having to request a withdrawal and having the chance of them denying it cutting that to zero. ;)

Also to the he members above this post:
I don't think shilling while your wearing the signature is allowed here on the forums.:-\

Just a friendly reminder to you fellow campaigner.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: romero121 on April 20, 2017, 03:32:46 AM
I like directbet for the fact you don't need to have an account there thus not needing to verify anything when using their services and get the payment sent directly to you without having to request a withdrawal and having the chance of them denying it cutting that to zero. ;)

Also to the he members above this post:
I don't think shilling while your wearing the signature is allowed here on the forums.:-\

Just a friendly reminder to you fellow campaigner.
Yeah, it gives the access without having separate account to take part into the events. Simply one thing that makes it best is the confirmation. The odds on dice or sports betting gets confirmed even before single confirmation as OP's requirement. Only thing is that if won the settlement happens once after confirmation of the transaction.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: Schuyler on June 08, 2017, 05:14:38 AM
Hello,

Tried many bitcoin casinos and all of them disappointed me. Some takes long time for deposit confirmations, some have stupid rollovers and some asking for id scans.

I just want to play fast, withdraw fast, without any stupid rollovers and id scans.

Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?

Thanks in advance guys !

I even could pay for each such casino link :D

Well, despite popular belief, this has nothing to do with the government getting tax or the industry keeping track of you, it is all to do with protecting minors and vulnerable people from gambling and preventing fraud and money laundering. That's a common procedure to be asked to confirm your identity.The truth is, it would be really nice if they ask ID verification like some reputable casinos does.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: traderethereum on June 08, 2017, 02:41:09 PM
Hello,

Tried many bitcoin casinos and all of them disappointed me. Some takes long time for deposit confirmations, some have stupid rollovers and some asking for id scans.

I just want to play fast, withdraw fast, without any stupid rollovers and id scans.

Please guys can you recommend some casinos which deposit money with zero confirms, withdraws without rollovers and without id scans requested?

Thanks in advance guys !

I even could pay for each such casino link :D

Well, despite popular belief, this has nothing to do with the government getting tax or the industry keeping track of you, it is all to do with protecting minors and vulnerable people from gambling and preventing fraud and money laundering. That's a common procedure to be asked to confirm your identity.The truth is, it would be really nice if they ask ID verification like some reputable casinos does.

i think if we playing gambling on the internet, we don't have to send any ID verification especially if we playing gambling with bitcoin, because i have experience in many gambling sites, they don't need our ID for verification. what they need is we deposit amount to them so we can starting to played the games. yeah, maybe in reputable casino, they need our ID for verification, but i think i don't want to played in their site.


Title: Re: bitcoin casinos with zero deposit confirms, no rollovers and no ID documents?
Post by: LuanX3 on June 09, 2017, 04:53:29 AM
There are so many casinos that offer no rollovers and no ID documents. In fact all casinos do not require rollover requirements if you are playing with your own money! If you are playing with bonuses then that is where rollovers are required. If you don't like rollovers then don't get the bonuses.

For zero deposit confirmations, then that is a problem. Most casinos requires 1 confirmation since people are abusing zero confirmation deposit through the use of double spending the transaction. Some casinos offer no confirmation when you have been a valued client in their system.