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Title: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: briannguyen on April 23, 2013, 01:09:48 PM
http://www.bitcoinrumors.com/2013/04/23/butterfly-labs-finally-ship-their-first-batch-of-jalapenos/

My order number for Jalapeno is 14852 not sure when I will be able to touch my hand on it. Also 3 Single SCs ordered few weeks after the Jalapenos.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: PatMan on April 23, 2013, 02:23:11 PM
Hmmmm. Seeing is believing....... ;)


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: ianspain on April 23, 2013, 06:37:34 PM
http://www.bitcoinrumors.com/2013/04/23/butterfly-labs-finally-ship-their-first-batch-of-jalapenos/

My order number for Jalapeno is 14852 not sure when I will be able to touch my hand on it. Also 3 Single SCs ordered few weeks after the Jalapenos.

when did you order??


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: craked5 on April 23, 2013, 06:40:17 PM
My order number is 1981 is that good?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: vm1990 on April 23, 2013, 06:48:24 PM
My order number is 1981 is that good?

thought the earliest orders where 3000


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: computerparts on April 23, 2013, 06:49:28 PM
http://www.bitcoinrumors.com/2013/04/23/butterfly-labs-finally-ship-their-first-batch-of-jalapenos/

My order number for Jalapeno is 14852 not sure when I will be able to touch my hand on it. Also 3 Single SCs ordered few weeks after the Jalapenos.

Given that they are shipping out 4 per day, you're likely to receive yours in only 3,713 more days  :D


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: BR0KK on April 23, 2013, 06:53:19 PM
http://www.bitcoinrumors.com/2013/04/23/butterfly-labs-finally-ship-their-first-batch-of-jalapenos/

My order number for Jalapeno is 14852 not sure when I will be able to touch my hand on it. Also 3 Single SCs ordered few weeks after the Jalapenos.

Given that they are shipping out 4 per day, you're likely to receive yours in only 3,713 more days  :D

Proof of that? I interpret the statement of Jody like this: "We've shipped 4 and no more...."


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Cablez on April 23, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
Fuck them and their Jalapenos.  >:(            I want my hardware.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Frizz23 on April 23, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
Fuck them and their Jalapenos.  >:(            I want my hardware.

Don't worry. You'll be fine.

As long as you didn't order a Mini Rig.
Or a Single SC.
Or a Little Single SC.
Or a Jalapeno after July 2012.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: fulepp on April 23, 2013, 09:31:51 PM
Then I am in big trouble...  :-\

Fuck them and their Jalapenos.  >:(            I want my hardware.

Don't worry. You'll be fine.

As long as you didn't order a Mini Rig.
Or a Single SC.
Or a Little Single SC.
Or a Jalapeno after July 2012.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: BR0KK on April 23, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
Fuck them and their Jalapenos.  >:(            I want my hardware.

Don't worry. You'll be fine.

As long as you didn't order a Mini Rig.
Or a Single SC.
Or a Little Single SC.
Or a Jalapeno after July 2012.


BUT, butm but..... They have somethin special planed for them. Just takes some time;)


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Cluster2k on April 24, 2013, 12:55:01 AM
Hopefully BFL will ship as many Jalapenos as possible using their existing stock of chips rather than sitting and waiting for new SC/Mini boards to be redesigned, built and tested.  That would take at least another few weeks.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: segfault88 on April 24, 2013, 12:58:29 AM
My order number is: 100027556 3/27/13 - I'm screwed   :-[


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: wildbud on April 24, 2013, 01:02:45 AM
My order number is: 100027556 3/27/13 - I'm screwed   :-[
I ordered two yesterday my order is 45k+ I am really screwed


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: segfault88 on April 24, 2013, 01:04:00 AM
By the way whatever happened to the 1/3 1/3 1/3 shipping thing?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 24, 2013, 01:27:34 AM
By the way whatever happened to the 1/3 1/3 1/3 shipping thing?

http://nabolister.com/ppics/528576/2/2479.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmWqapeMsKOGEyj0b04UE30C5Rp9CoiUdxxunGF4ibRocdeVTOpw


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: pyra-proxy on April 24, 2013, 01:35:45 AM
They need to ship some jalepenos to everyone on their order list as a booby prize for waiting so danged long and then send out all of the proper orders... 1 free jalepeno for each of your orders seems fair at this point many many months into the slipped schedule process...

**mildly annoyed if ya can't tell**..... 


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: surebet on April 24, 2013, 01:37:21 AM
Seriously at this point it would make more sense to refund your order and slap a GPU rig together, especially if you bought something else than the jalapeno.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: CoinHoarder on April 24, 2013, 01:39:56 AM
The swarm of locusts is more like a trickle of water from a leaking faucet:

"Monday 4/22 shipped 4 Jalapenos. 1 Customer and 3 developer units.

Tuesday 4/23 3 more to ship today to customers."

-BFL_Jody


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: pyra-proxy on April 24, 2013, 01:54:50 AM
The swarm of locusts is more like a trickle of water from a leaking faucet:

"Monday 4/22 shipped 4 Jalapenos. 1 Customer and 3 developer units.

Tuesday 4/23 3 more to ship today to customers."

-BFL_Jody

 ??? So when did 400 units per day become 4 units per day ???

 :'( will I never get my order... at least not before quantum mining devices come out  :o


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 24, 2013, 02:24:23 AM
The following is the list of people contacted by BFL instructing them to unplug their FPGAs, box them up, and ship to the newly created space in their warehouse, so that they can receive a lesser GH/s apparatus that may, or may not, use less energy.

THE LIST:
































Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: smoothie on April 24, 2013, 02:30:22 AM
The swarm of locusts is more like a trickle of water from a leaking faucet:

"Monday 4/22 shipped 4 Jalapenos. 1 Customer and 3 developer units.

Tuesday 4/23 3 more to ship today to customers."

-BFL_Jody

 ??? So when did 400 units per day become 4 units per day ???

 :'( will I never get my order... at least not before quantum mining devices come out  :o

LOL wow a whole 4 units per day. Okay preorder investors....you will get your devices by 2020.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: segfault88 on April 24, 2013, 02:53:32 AM

Tuesday 4/23 3 more to ship today to customers."


Only 397 left to ship for Tuesday. I know they have to ramp up, but 3 shipped in a day, seriously!?

Well at least they are giving us updates...


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: BR0KK on April 24, 2013, 06:50:59 AM
The swarm of locusts is more like a trickle of water from a leaking faucet:

"Monday 4/22 shipped 4 Jalapenos. 1 Customer and 3 developer units.

Tuesday 4/23 3 more to ship today to customers."

-BFL_Jody

 ??? So when did 400 units per day become 4 units per day ???

 :'( will I never get my order... at least not before quantum mining devices come out  :o

LOL wow a whole 4 units per day. Okay preorder investors....you will get your devices by 2020.

BFL_Jody to Bitcointalk - TRANSLATE: "Yep, we shipped 4 and no more...."


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Rampion on April 24, 2013, 06:54:09 AM
My order number is: 100027556 3/27/13 - I'm screwed   :-[

You should have done your own research before sending "preorder" money to an obvious scam which did not deliver for many months.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: crazyquark on April 24, 2013, 12:08:44 PM
Hello guys,

Honestly, I wish I had ordered one a year ago. Now it makes little sense to order one.
Sure, this drip distribution methods make sure the the hash-rate of the network does not sky rocket... so it's good... in a sense.

What I wonder is: how revolutionary is their design? Once one is shipped to a developer, it could be reverse engineered...maybe?
Did they design their own custom chips? Or are they using chips build some other company? In that case, couldn't we reproduce their work?
All I heard is that they optimized power consumption, allegedly by tuning the chips (how? transistor count, die size?)

LE: I studied a bit more ASICs. They probably have custom chips. If with all the people interested in bitcoin mining, couldn't an open source solution be build? As far as I can tell the challenge with ASICs are the building costs - that's why they needed to get the preorders, otherwise they wouldn't have built anything. The price is another strange thing - 274$ a unit(150$ originally) is a rather low price for a custom build chip...

I would normally call bullshit on such a product(it's why I never ordered one - sounded like a fantasy) but it seems that at least a few units shipped and that they are indeed performing 5GH/s at 30W. At least according to the youtube videos.

Does anyone have some technical details on these little Jalapenos?


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: greyhawk on April 24, 2013, 12:10:42 PM
The swarm of locusts is more like a trickle of water from a leaking faucet:

"Monday 4/22 shipped 4 Jalapenos. 1 Customer and 3 developer units.

Tuesday 4/23 3 more to ship today to customers."

-BFL_Jody

 ??? So when did 400 units per day become 4 units per day ???

 :'( will I never get my order... at least not before quantum mining devices come out  :o

Yeah, well the Jalapeno is a hundred times as big now, so....


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on April 24, 2013, 12:31:13 PM
They only ship them after they have mined with them for months :P


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: erk on April 24, 2013, 01:37:51 PM
They only ship them after they have mined with them for months :P

Why ship at all then? Same goes for their FPGA boxes. Nice conspiracy theory.



Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Cluster2k on April 24, 2013, 02:43:38 PM
It's early days so far in the manufacturing process and I trust BFL will be able to scale production up.  They had better too, as right now no one should be ordering a Jalapeno if it takes the whole company a few hours to manufacture one.  Imagine ordering today and receiving your order sometime in 2014.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: tonto on April 24, 2013, 03:08:31 PM
Fuck them and their Jalapenos.  >:(            I want my hardware.

Don't worry. You'll be fine.

As long as you didn't order a Mini Rig.
Or a Single SC.
Or a Little Single SC.
Or a Jalapeno after July 2012.

Fudge, I ordered my first Jalapeņo in October, order number in the 13k range
 
:(


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 24, 2013, 07:52:38 PM
Speaking of scaling up, I sure would love to see what BFL has on the drawing board in this respect. Hell, now that they're officially "shipping", maybe they're about to send out a press release of their next generation miners like they did shortly after their FPGA line starting trickling to the post office like a bale of jolly tortugas.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: JimiQ84 on April 24, 2013, 07:56:47 PM
Speaking of scaling up, I sure would love to see what BFL has on the drawing board in this respect. Hell, now that they're officially "shipping", maybe they're about to send out a press release of their next generation miners like they did shortly after their FPGA line starting trickling to the post office like a bale of jolly tortugas.

Something like 1TH/s USB miner and 100TH/s "mini" rig? :-)


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: erk on April 24, 2013, 08:53:43 PM
Fuck them and their Jalapenos.  >:(            I want my hardware.

Don't worry. You'll be fine.

As long as you didn't order a Mini Rig.
Or a Single SC.
Or a Little Single SC.
Or a Jalapeno after July 2012.

Fudge, I ordered my first Jalapeņo in October, order number in the 13k range
 
:(

Do you know if the order numbers started at #1 also what were they at for the FPGA orders?



Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: coinnewb on April 24, 2013, 09:56:35 PM
I feel sorry for those people who have to deal with BFL, but this whole BFL fiasco is as good as it gets in terms of free entertainment.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Wesly on April 24, 2013, 09:57:02 PM
They only ship them after they have mined with them for months :P

Why ship at all then? Same goes for their FPGA boxes. Nice conspiracy theory.


They ship a few ASIC system to prevent their angry customers from descend upon their office like a horde of angry locust :)

But seriously, they need to show some "progress" so people won't ask for a refund.  They also need to attract new capitals to continue their development.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: erk on April 24, 2013, 10:03:13 PM
They only ship them after they have mined with them for months :P

Why ship at all then? Same goes for their FPGA boxes. Nice conspiracy theory.


They ship a few ASIC system to prevent their angry customers from descend upon their office like a horde of angry locust :)

But seriously, they need to show some "progress" so people won't ask for a refund.  They also need to attract new capitals to continue their development.
The only capital they needed was the money to buy the ASIC wafer, which was obviously huge,  and the manufacturing machines, once that's done the business can pay for itself either from sales, or if sales drop off from mining themselves. Either way they have the potential to be successful.




Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: seleme on April 24, 2013, 10:15:50 PM

 The price is another strange thing - 274$ a unit(150$ originally) is a rather low price for a custom build chip...


3$ is too expensive with their delivery records ;)


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: ebildude123 on April 24, 2013, 11:01:05 PM
Were any shipped today!?
BFL needs to make more faster  ::)


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: SgtSpike on April 24, 2013, 11:14:12 PM
They wanted to ship some out to provide proof that they do have product.  They're still waiting on the new boards to arrive to begin mass assembly, including assembly of the singles.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: erk on April 24, 2013, 11:42:11 PM
Were any shipped today!?
BFL needs to make more faster  ::)

I agree, if they actually showed signs of reasonable delivery times, I might place an order.

Mind you that goes for most of the ASIC proposals on this forum, if I knew from peoples testimony that I placed and order today I would have it in my hand on such and such date approx, they would get my business.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: elvisrene on April 24, 2013, 11:51:02 PM
The swarm of locusts is more like a trickle of water from a leaking faucet:

"Monday 4/22 shipped 4 Jalapenos. 1 Customer and 3 developer units.

Tuesday 4/23 3 more to ship today to customers."

-BFL_Jody

 ??? So when did 400 units per day become 4 units per day ???

 :'( will I never get my order... at least not before quantum mining devices come out  :o
hey which one are the quantum mining devices


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Wesly on April 26, 2013, 03:46:40 AM
They only ship them after they have mined with them for months :P

Why ship at all then? Same goes for their FPGA boxes. Nice conspiracy theory.


They ship a few ASIC system to prevent their angry customers from descend upon their office like a horde of angry locust :)

But seriously, they need to show some "progress" so people won't ask for a refund.  They also need to attract new capitals to continue their development.
The only capital they needed was the money to buy the ASIC wafer, which was obviously huge,  and the manufacturing machines, once that's done the business can pay for itself either from sales, or if sales drop off from mining themselves. Either way they have the potential to be successful.


Have you not read much lately?  They need more capital to re-design their Little Single, Single, mini-rig, meaning new PCB, new case, new power/cooling design, new packaging...  That's going to cost more time and money BFL can't afford if they still haven't ship anything...  So they ship a few to buy themselves a little bit more time and money.  They are not as dumb as some of you guys made them out to be.  They sure are good at stringing their poor customers along.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: erk on April 26, 2013, 04:01:09 AM


Have you not read much lately?  They need more capital to re-design their Little Single, Single, mini-rig, meaning new PCB, new case, new power/cooling design, new packaging...  That's going to cost more time and money BFL can't afford if they still haven't ship anything...  So they ship a few to buy themselves a little bit more time and money.  They are not as dumb as some of you guys made them out to be.  They sure are good at stringing their poor customers along.
They could mine as much BTC as they need without having to "string their poor customers along".
But they couldn't mine that BTC without the capital for the wafer or specialized equipment to make the first mining rigs.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: k9quaint on April 26, 2013, 04:27:49 AM


Have you not read much lately?  They need more capital to re-design their Little Single, Single, mini-rig, meaning new PCB, new case, new power/cooling design, new packaging...  That's going to cost more time and money BFL can't afford if they still haven't ship anything...  So they ship a few to buy themselves a little bit more time and money.  They are not as dumb as some of you guys made them out to be.  They sure are good at stringing their poor customers along.
They could mine as much BTC as they need without having to "string their poor customers along".
But they couldn't mine that BTC without the capital for the wafer or specialized equipment to make the first mining rigs.

If they had large amounts of Jalapeno's or Singles working, they would be mining with them.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: -ck on April 26, 2013, 05:56:51 AM
Kano and I got ours today. Since Kano took photos I didn't see any need to myself:
http://www.kano-kun.net/?p=56

Shhh! We're busy coding...


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: BitAddict on April 26, 2013, 06:03:44 AM
They only ship them after they have mined with them for months :P

Why ship at all then? Same goes for their FPGA boxes. Nice conspiracy theory.


They ship a few ASIC system to prevent their angry customers from descend upon their office like a horde of angry locust :)

But seriously, they need to show some "progress" so people won't ask for a refund.  They also need to attract new capitals to continue their development.
The only capital they needed was the money to buy the ASIC wafer, which was obviously huge,  and the manufacturing machines, once that's done the business can pay for itself either from sales, or if sales drop off from mining themselves. Either way they have the potential to be successful.


Have you not read much lately?  They need more capital to re-design their Little Single, Single, mini-rig, meaning new PCB, new case, new power/cooling design, new packaging...  That's going to cost more time and money BFL can't afford if they still haven't ship anything...  So they ship a few to buy themselves a little bit more time and money.  They are not as dumb as some of you guys made them out to be.  They sure are good at stringing their poor customers along.

Sounds like Ponzi...


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: Logik on April 26, 2013, 06:26:42 AM
People who misuse the word Ponzi are a Ponzi


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: BitAddict on April 26, 2013, 11:56:47 AM
People who misuse the word Ponzi are a Ponzi

People who misuse the word Ponzi, to people who misuse the word word Ponzi, are the real Ponzi

Congrats, now you can feel like a 5 years old.

BFL is just taking money and promising, while they're 7 months late.... even worse, they're liying about delivery time the whole time to get new customers...


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: mrb on April 26, 2013, 05:13:05 PM
BFL is just taking money and promising, while they're 1 year late....

Why do you bend reality? They are 6 months late (Oct 2012 - Apr 2013), not 1 year.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: minternj on April 26, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
\. even worse, they're liying about delivery time the whole time to get new users...

Gotta agree there. telling new customers ordering today will ship in july is uhhh.. wrong to put it simply.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: cdog on April 26, 2013, 06:52:02 PM
They said "July" but they didnt say what year!

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/029/364/failboat2.jpg?1318992465


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: k9quaint on April 26, 2013, 08:34:17 PM

Touche sir. Well played.


Title: Re: Butterfly Labs finally ship their first batch of Jalapenos
Post by: spinner on April 27, 2013, 12:17:47 AM
People who misuse the word Ponzi are a Ponzi

People who misuse the word Ponzi, to people who misuse the word word Ponzi, are the real Ponzi


You're logic is truly dazzling!