Bitcoin Forum

Other => Beginners & Help => Topic started by: ProMine on April 23, 2013, 02:40:59 PM



Title: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: ProMine on April 23, 2013, 02:40:59 PM
Hi all,

A new website; www.asxproject.com (from Shenzhen, China) claims to be selling ASIC mining systems with hashrates ranging from 25-125 GH/s when they open in 3 days.

According to their RSS feed they have no customer service office and are an online based company. They expect to be shipping their first 100 orders within 3 weeks after purchase. Does anybody have a legitimacy confirmation or information about them?


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: chanberg on April 23, 2013, 04:28:41 PM
probably a scam, which chinese people/companies are known to do...



Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: ProMine on April 23, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
probably, but still it seems possible that the chinese can remake or improve the ASIC modules produced by Avalon. There is no doubt that there are other companies able to join the market for bitcoin mining hardware besides Avalon and BFL (at least in the future). I hope this will be soon, because I missed out on the Avalon batches :(



Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Sitarow on April 27, 2013, 06:12:45 PM
probably, but still it seems possible that the chinese can remake or improve the ASIC modules produced by Avalon. There is no doubt that there are other companies able to join the market for bitcoin mining hardware besides Avalon and BFL (at least in the future). I hope this will be soon, because I missed out on the Avalon batches :(


Quote from webpage.
Quote
About
We are an online based company that specializes in ASIC-based bitcoin mining hardware. Since September 2012 we have been considering building an ASIC based system with the sole purpose of mining bitcoins.

In December 2012, we visited different chip manufacturing companies in and around Shenzhen, China. We have reached agreement with them to produce an ASIC module which we would then test on-site. Only one of the produced modules was tested. At the end of the testing phase, we accomplished the module to mine at ~28 GHash/s. The module contains 10×10 ASIC chips and a heat sink of 0.5″. We experienced excellent cooling performance in our prototype system.

During and after the testing phase we designed the ASX ASIC-based mining system, which was developed to hold up to six modules, and enables hash rates ranging from 25 GH/s to 150 GH/s.

Since the successful testing phase, we have been further scheduling the production and financing of our project. Currently, all planning has been completed. Therefore, we need to finance the production of ASIC modules to build our ASIC-based bitcoin mining products by receiving pre-orders from our clients. We have made an agreement with our supplier that requires the sale of 100 systems, minimum. The moment that we reach this target, production will start. As soon as production starts we expect to be able to deliver our first client within two to three weeks. Hence, shipping dates depend on when our target is reached.

Read more about the development of our system at http://asxproject.com/?feed=rss2.


They seem to be developing along in a "normal" timeline however without more evidence and community involvement it would be difficult to raise the first 100 orders in order to get this project first batch development in motion.

Will they be using Avalon chips?

Perhaps what this project needs is you to make your improvement observation located at this link post http://asxproject.com/?page_id=241

Sent a few emails with hopes to get more details on this project.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: iwannagofast on April 27, 2013, 06:25:43 PM
Would be very hard to trust them..


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: TheSwede75 on April 27, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
Large parts of their website is pure cut and paste from other services. Check terms and conditions, makes NO sense for a webship, talks about 'rating system' etc. Looks like its just been pasted from eBay. Total 100% scam.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: richiela on April 27, 2013, 09:01:24 PM
For what it's worth, a couple of us pre-ordered a 150g/hash system.  Total cost 2249... 17ish BTC... We did get a order receipt email and then an order processed email from them after 6 confirmations or so.

The emails came directly from asxproject@gmail.com.  If anyone else was foolish enough to place an order, i'd like to compare order numbers and the such.





Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Nadia on April 27, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
Why they "censor" the chip image ?! ???
Looks like a scam for me.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: 01BTC10 on April 27, 2013, 09:28:51 PM
Censored ASIC chips found on their website:

https://i.imgur.com/iES9gdu.jpg


Those are 1994 Apple Quickdraw 3D Card ASIC:

https://i.imgur.com/AW6jUm8.jpg

SCAM

OP is probably part of this scam.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: 01BTC10 on April 27, 2013, 09:32:09 PM
For what it's worth, a couple of us pre-ordered a 150g/hash system.  Total cost 2249... 17ish BTC... We did get a order receipt email and then an order processed email from them after 6 confirmations or so.

The emails came directly from asxproject@gmail.com.  If anyone else was foolish enough to place an order, i'd like to compare order numbers and the such.





https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2571927616/mmb9qajq9swpi8xxy76a.jpeg


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: moxdiamond on April 27, 2013, 09:37:10 PM
oh what fun it is to post!


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: richiela on April 27, 2013, 09:41:45 PM
Starting to look more and more like it :(

FWIW, I am not advocating or trying to encourage anyone to go to the site etc... Just admitting that i'm the foolish one ;) Here's my payment to bitpay... https://blockchain.info/address/1GvjcgMSDKDf9dK7vPu4yPXQhUsdMEzcAb

BTW, does bitpay offer any type of buyer protection etc?


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Lastro on April 27, 2013, 09:43:46 PM
The website is well done with a professional english writer. I could not find any sentence comparisons to other sites with exception to TheSwede75 (nice catch) pointed out in the T&A section. This makes no sense:; "The Site allows you to post offers, sell, advertise, bid and shop online." That's straight from Ebay.

Edit - Did a little more research; whois registered info out of:

Nobby Beach
Queensland,QLD 4218
AU


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Nadia on April 27, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
Censored ASIC chips found on their website:

OP is probably part of this scam.
Good find, definitely a scam. ;D


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: TheSwede75 on April 27, 2013, 10:26:13 PM
And only poster to 'promote' them on the forum to begin with is newbie.

Edit: Domain reg is also less than two weeks old, and somewhow they have 'posts' that date to Dec 2012. Not only do they sell Asics dirt cheap, they also have a damn time machine!
Edit: Also. Not that it 100% means they are a scam, but their checkout and registration of username and password does not even serve trough SSL. What serious company does that?


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: discobean on April 27, 2013, 11:13:59 PM
Their initial intentions might not be scam, but after they receive $ and realise can't deliver it will turn into one.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: TheSwede75 on April 27, 2013, 11:17:26 PM
In my opinion the things that speak the loudest to the fact that they are a scam are:

1. First batch is 'cheaper' (Yeah, companies usually launch their first product with a 'sale' sign). Aka. Take the money and run.
2. Nothing but stock images and 3D cad images of 'product'.
3. Suspiciously cheap
4. No physical office address
5. No Phone nr
6. 'Contact' does not answer emails
7. Copy/paste text from other sites
8. Non SSL ordering and registration (seems serious).
9. Accept only BTC (sure, I can see Avalon/Asicminer getting away with this but it's because they already HAVE trust).
10. No one seemingly have heard of them before they went 'live'.
11. Their 'stock' only updates in even 10 units and placing an order (as far as possible without making payment) has no impact on 'stock'.

Enough for me not to order.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: BitshireHashaway on April 27, 2013, 11:25:50 PM
Interesting finds. To me personally, it seems to be a scam, so as a result, I won't consider purchasing anything from them until I hear more about them and if they show whether they are legit or not. Great find for the chip one, I didn't recognize that.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: richiela on April 27, 2013, 11:33:25 PM
11. Their 'stock' only updates in even 10 units and placing an order (as far as possible without making payment) has no impact on 'stock'.

that isn't entirely true... it went down one unit when my order went "confirmed"... it sat at 249 for a while.  Not trying suggest they are legit, but someone should continue to monitor the stock decrements on other orders.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 27, 2013, 11:35:28 PM
rofl. First thing I saw was this:

http://asxproject.com/wp-content/themes/responsive/images/animated%20productinfo.gif

I knew it was a scam from that moment.

(Texas Instruments doesn't make ASIC chips for bitcoin mining last time I checked.)


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: TheSwede75 on April 27, 2013, 11:58:59 PM
rofl. First thing I saw was this:

http://asxproject.com/wp-content/themes/responsive/images/animated%20productinfo.gif

I knew it was a scam from that moment.

(Texas Instruments doesn't make ASIC chips for bitcoin mining last time I checked.)

Also fairly epic fail on the 'box' art that is a bunch of image cut and paste from random computer case components.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Sitarow on April 28, 2013, 12:05:38 AM
The posted images don't help instill confidence. If the images that are presented are conceptual design then it would be nice to have that in the photo as a watermark disclaimer.

However it seems orders are being filled.

Also consider that they claim your pre-order money is being used to help fund the first 100 units.

https://i.imgur.com/SrtLONT.png


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: pmorici on April 28, 2013, 12:09:33 AM
I agree, looks like a scam.  Another mark against it is it is posted in the "newbies" section.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: EviLMask on April 28, 2013, 12:16:43 AM
I agree, looks like a scam.  Another mark against it is it is posted in the "newbies" section.

This. For me that's the weirdest thing of all.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: moxdiamond on April 28, 2013, 12:20:33 AM
lol  ::)


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: small502 on April 28, 2013, 12:28:44 AM
It looked fairly professional at first. But anyone that uses Alibaba will know: Never trust anything from "Shenzhen"


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Sitarow on April 28, 2013, 05:20:24 AM
It looked fairly professional at first. But anyone that uses Alibaba will know: Never trust anything from "Shenzhen"

From the website FAQ

I wonder if anyone that has ordered consider asking for a refund at this time...

Quote
What is your phone number and how can I talk to someone?
Currently, there is no customer service via telephone with a goal of cutting costs. You can e-mail us via our contact page or contact us on Facebook and Twitter.  

Can I get a refund on my pre-order?
Certainly. Please feel free to contact us with and we will handle it. Do take into account that it can take several days before you have your funds back.  The amount refunded is the amount of bitcoins initially paid in the transaction.

What is the power consumption of the ASX (ASIC based) systems?
We are not currently releasing all specs for the systems, but power consumption will vary between 200-1000 watts depending on the amount of ASIC units added to the system.

What form of payment do your accept?
Bitcoin only. It is fast, easy and makes sense when we are selling bitcoin mining hardware.

Why do you use batch orders?
Firstly, to determine the interest in our project and to build a solid client base. Secondly, it enables us to stay on schedule and properly finance production.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: The_Authorities on April 28, 2013, 05:46:46 AM
looks legit, I'd buy two


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 28, 2013, 05:53:32 AM
looks legit, I'd buy two

I bet you would. That's why you're a newbie


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: dmelj on April 28, 2013, 06:44:14 AM
Wow, the photo of that TI chip is a classic.  TI would never touch the btc market.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: ASXProject on April 29, 2013, 01:47:17 PM
Hello everyone,

We have become aware of the concerns in the bitcoin community and see it best fit to address the concerns here. The skepticism as to the images used is justified as the ASIC chip is indeed an example of a future product-part. We thought it would be possible to attain the required funds for our first batch delivery based on the information provided to create a solid client base for subsequent batch productions. This is clearly not the case.

We think that it is in our best interest to deliver prototype miner(s) to highly trusted member(s) to establish trust and confidence in our ability to produce and deliver the products. As we are confident we can. This will however delay the 'mass' production, which was initially intended to start as soon as possible. Our supplier has already shown the capability of producing the required hardware. Thus, we feel confident in our combined ability to reach set goals. 

We will dedicate our time to update and provide additional information for the coming period. Tomorrow, we have an appointment with out supplier to discuss the cost and possibility of producing a smaller amount of ASIC modules for the purpose of providing prototypes.

We will keep you posted. Any suggestions regarding efforts from our side towards helping this project reach its potential are very welcome.

Regards,

ASX Project


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: ninjaboon on April 29, 2013, 01:56:14 PM
oh no, not another "bitcoin mining ASIC" company.... ???


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: laris2 on April 29, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
I guess more speculations and scams are coming up on these machinery.
I wonder if in 50 years we will receive emails from Zimbabwe saying that our uncle left us 150g/h asic machine and a bitcoin wallet, and all we need to do.....


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Paya on April 29, 2013, 02:34:02 PM
They should have tried harder, this is pretty lame tbh.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: ionstorm on April 29, 2013, 03:03:15 PM
Id like to see one of these in a video to see how well they perform


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Rampion on April 29, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
looks legit, I'd buy two

I bet you would. That's why you're a newbie

You bet?

Remember, remember, the 9th of September


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Sitarow on April 29, 2013, 08:50:50 PM
Hello everyone,

We have become aware of the concerns in the bitcoin community and see it best fit to address the concerns here. The skepticism as to the images used is justified as the ASIC chip is indeed an example of a future product-part. We thought it would be possible to attain the required funds for our first batch delivery based on the information provided to create a solid client base for subsequent batch productions. This is clearly not the case.

We think that it is in our best interest to deliver prototype miner(s) to highly trusted member(s) to establish trust and confidence in our ability to produce and deliver the products. As we are confident we can. This will however delay the 'mass' production, which was initially intended to start as soon as possible. Our supplier has already shown the capability of producing the required hardware. Thus, we feel confident in our combined ability to reach set goals. 

We will dedicate our time to update and provide additional information for the coming period. Tomorrow, we have an appointment with out supplier to discuss the cost and possibility of producing a smaller amount of ASIC modules for the purpose of providing prototypes.

We will keep you posted. Any suggestions regarding efforts from our side towards helping this project reach its potential are very welcome.

Regards,

ASX Project

Thank you for the update. The efforts you use to validate claims would be welcomed.

Avalon themselves posted even contract details on these forums to show that they have made the steps with valid manufacturers to develop their ASIC chips.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: roflplatypus on April 29, 2013, 09:38:47 PM
ś̷̫̱͔̰̳̰̼̗̌͌̾̈́ͥ́͜č̗̼̘̊͐̃ͣ́a̶̱̠̲̞͋̈́ͣ̂͛̓̏͢m̹̝͚̹̣ͤ͌̃̿ͮ̏͌ͫ́


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: hendo420 on April 29, 2013, 10:16:03 PM
cool


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: digicoin on April 29, 2013, 10:55:33 PM
I don't believe in China or Chinese. They are too well known for scam.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Xenophis on April 29, 2013, 11:03:51 PM
I don't believe in China or Chinese. They are too well known for scam.

... It's funny you should say that, because Avalons were created by Yifu who is Chinese, are the hottest ASICs on the market right now, as well as being the first consumer ASIC (much ahead of schedule than BFL, who had double the time to do R&D and manufacture, and they STILL have not delivered the majority of their product), and were manufactured in China.

This asxproject.com most certainly looks like a scam, but don't generalize people without doing your research and coming to an educated conclusion.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Herodes on April 29, 2013, 11:18:34 PM
Wasn't it claimed that they have demo units and that they're collecting money for mass production ? Putting up videos of the demo boxes would be a nice first step, and giving some more technical details about the setup would give the technical advanced users on this forum a better chance to judge. Certainly seems like a scam from the looks of it, with lots of jr accounts jumping in attempting to legitimize it.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Rampion on April 29, 2013, 11:41:50 PM
Don't feed the scammers


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: btcbet on April 29, 2013, 11:48:07 PM
Copy and paste from ebay == Legit


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: dwdoc on April 30, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
I guess on the scam scale ASX-Project currently sits somewhere between Cedartec and Kncminer...


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: kookoopuffs on May 01, 2013, 12:16:49 AM
ASX was out of stock yesterday and now shows 219 in stock.  Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'd assume this is because some people asked for refunds.  Anyone on the forum want to share their refund experience? 


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Rampion on May 01, 2013, 12:40:20 AM
ASX was out of stock yesterday and now shows 219 in stock.  Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'd assume this is because some people asked for refunds.  Anyone on the forum want to share their refund experience? 

the benefit of the doubt? What kind of joke is this?

This is an obvious scam.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: devilfish on May 01, 2013, 01:05:47 AM
The new goldrush is claiming to make ASIC mining machines and taking orders. Actually making them after that would just be a waste of money  :P


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: singula on May 01, 2013, 01:21:30 AM
Best demo would be for them join with their units some "trusted" (or well known) mining pool (and stay there for at least hour or two) that shows some form of public stats - that way they'll prove they have the the chips (or at least they'll have something that is as powerful as the chips they say they have)

Maybe not 100% proof, but may easily weed ouf many scammers and companies that actually does not have anything ...)


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: TheSwede75 on May 02, 2013, 12:00:15 AM
I'm considering throwing in $800 on the off chance that they deliver. Hell, at current asic prices it almost seems worth it even at 10-1 odds. I'll let you all know how it goes if I do it.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: jnada on May 02, 2013, 12:05:14 AM
I feel like I lost few years from life since joining this forum...at least two.

Love your work guys


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: sahkan on May 02, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
Why would a Chinese company use US made (TI) chips? Avalon uses chips from the Taiwanese Co ... isn't that a bit odd?


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: thebitmine010 on May 02, 2013, 01:15:06 AM
copy paste text, cheap wordpress theme, random pictures, gmail only way of contact, mailchimp newsletter == legit

i think i'll get 5!


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: thebitmine010 on May 02, 2013, 01:24:07 AM
nice case: Corsair Obsidian 900D Super Tower Case


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: mebi on May 02, 2013, 02:58:22 AM
Edit - Did a little more research; whois registered info out of:

Nobby Beach
Queensland,QLD 4218
AU

Interesting, perhaps the "ASX" name comes from the Australian Securities Exchange?

whois has since been changed to:
    shenzhen
    Shenzhen
    Hong Kong,NA
    CN



Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: TheSwede75 on May 02, 2013, 03:03:17 AM
I have communicated some withe 'whoever is behind' ASX project. I judge it to be 90% (ballpark) chance that its a scam and around 10% that it is (or wants to be) legit based on what I have been told. I'll prob throw in my $800 and just see it as a lottery ticket, albeit an expensive one.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: kevcoins on May 02, 2013, 03:11:38 AM
Hi all,

A new website; www.asxproject.com (from Shenzhen, China) claims to be selling ASIC mining systems with hashrates ranging from 25-125 GH/s when they open in 3 days.

According to their RSS feed they have no customer service office and are an online based company. They expect to be shipping their first 100 orders within 3 weeks after purchase. Does anybody have a legitimacy confirmation or information about them?



SCAM and SCAM Watch out and Stay Clear ...


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: TheSwede75 on May 02, 2013, 03:37:21 AM
Hi all,

A new website; www.asxproject.com (from Shenzhen, China) claims to be selling ASIC mining systems with hashrates ranging from 25-125 GH/s when they open in 3 days.

According to their RSS feed they have no customer service office and are an online based company. They expect to be shipping their first 100 orders within 3 weeks after purchase. Does anybody have a legitimacy confirmation or information about them?



SCAM and SCAM Watch out and Stay Clear ...

Well if someone with 19 posts says so in REALLY BIG letters, I guess I might want to reconsider....


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: kevcoins on May 02, 2013, 03:44:33 AM
Hello everyone,

We have become aware of the concerns in the bitcoin community and see it best fit to address the concerns here. The skepticism as to the images used is justified as the ASIC chip is indeed an example of a future product-part. We thought it would be possible to attain the required funds for our first batch delivery based on the information provided to create a solid client base for subsequent batch productions. This is clearly not the case.

We think that it is in our best interest to deliver prototype miner(s) to highly trusted member(s) to establish trust and confidence in our ability to produce and deliver the products. As we are confident we can. This will however delay the 'mass' production, which was initially intended to start as soon as possible. Our supplier has already shown the capability of producing the required hardware. Thus, we feel confident in our combined ability to reach set goals.  

We will dedicate our time to update and provide additional information for the coming period. Tomorrow, we have an appointment with out supplier to discuss the cost and possibility of producing a smaller amount of ASIC modules for the purpose of providing prototypes.

We will keep you posted. Any suggestions regarding efforts from our side towards helping this project reach its potential are very welcome.

Regards,

ASX Project

You should give us paypal as a form of payment to proof your legitimacy .. like they say only 2 to 3 weeks to deliver the product.. if they deliver no one will ask 4 refund. No telephone numbers and physical address or this could be some guys from other countries designing a website write excellent english, give a good story and try to piggy back avalon success.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: btchedge on May 02, 2013, 04:13:53 AM
Hello everyone,

We have become aware of the concerns in the bitcoin community and see it best fit to address the concerns here. The skepticism as to the images used is justified as the ASIC chip is indeed an example of a future product-part. We thought it would be possible to attain the required funds for our first batch delivery based on the information provided to create a solid client base for subsequent batch productions. This is clearly not the case.

We think that it is in our best interest to deliver prototype miner(s) to highly trusted member(s) to establish trust and confidence in our ability to produce and deliver the products. As we are confident we can. This will however delay the 'mass' production, which was initially intended to start as soon as possible. Our supplier has already shown the capability of producing the required hardware. Thus, we feel confident in our combined ability to reach set goals. 

We will dedicate our time to update and provide additional information for the coming period. Tomorrow, we have an appointment with out supplier to discuss the cost and possibility of producing a smaller amount of ASIC modules for the purpose of providing prototypes.

We will keep you posted. Any suggestions regarding efforts from our side towards helping this project reach its potential are very welcome.

Regards,

ASX Project


Dear ASX Project,

If you can provide some basic validation of your claims I can have an associate meet you in person and arrange immediate financing of your first batch. I am happy to provide total verification of available funds.

Sincerely,

BTCHedge


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: kevcoins on May 02, 2013, 04:25:43 AM
why are these days, some one with one or two post had their own thread promoting or attempting to promote something big like this.. while others with hundreds or even thousand of postings to proof they are trusted and yet not make any claims..


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Gabrics on May 02, 2013, 08:38:02 AM
Well, ASIC scan v2.0. Which is still (luckily) bad enough, all of their products are out of stock.

On the other hand:
If you are real it would be relatively easy to prove (blockchain via mining, send several samples to trusted members, etc.)


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Sitarow on May 02, 2013, 09:10:37 AM
Well, ASIC scan v2.0. Which is still (luckily) bad enough, all of their products are out of stock.

On the other hand:
If you are real it would be relatively easy to prove (blockchain via mining, send several samples to trusted members, etc.)


It would be good to have a list of questions we could ask people that claim to be working on a project to produce ASIC hardware.

What would you ask if you could do a 1 on 1 interview with them?


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Zich on May 05, 2013, 04:32:06 AM
I don't believe in China or Chinese. They are too well known for scam.


You wanna say avalon not chinese??????


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Jakewell on May 05, 2013, 06:16:47 AM
we need to be very cautios with this companies selling asics


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: quentinadam on May 05, 2013, 08:19:00 AM
Nicely spotted!

Censored ASIC chips found on their website:

https://i.imgur.com/iES9gdu.jpg


Those are 1994 Apple Quickdraw 3D Card ASIC:

https://i.imgur.com/AW6jUm8.jpg

SCAM

OP is probably part of this scam.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: zero3112 on May 08, 2013, 02:27:08 AM
Is that bfl


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: Lastro on May 11, 2013, 08:11:19 PM
Hi all,

A new website; www.asxproject.com (from Shenzhen, China) claims to be selling ASIC mining systems with hashrates ranging from 25-125 GH/s when they open in 3 days.

According to their RSS feed they have no customer service office and are an online based company. They expect to be shipping their first 100 orders within 3 weeks after purchase. Does anybody have a legitimacy confirmation or information about them?



SCAM and SCAM Watch out and Stay Clear ...

Well if someone with 19 posts says so in REALLY BIG letters, I guess I might want to reconsider....

Exactly! I mean, why come to the "newbie" forum and rail against those new to these forums with low post counts and listen to reason and logic. Listen to this guy, he is making sense:   

"I have communicated some withe 'whoever is behind' ASX project. I judge it to be 90% (ballpark) chance that its a scam and around 10% that it is (or wants to be) legit based on what I have been told. I'll prob throw in my $800 and just see it as a lottery ticket, albeit an expensive one."


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: dwdoc on July 09, 2013, 04:23:28 AM
Today's email from Asxproject:  It is a shock: the prototype devices promised to be available on June 20th are delayed!


Dear subscribers,

Around the time of the last newsletter, the production of our ASIC modules was in progress. Today, we have received our full order of 200 modules and are testing them at this moment.

We have encountered an issue with the first group of systems that were intended to ship to a select group of members (instability after a short operating time caused by a firmware error). We have fixed this issue, but unfortunately we had to delay the shipment. To ensure that all systems are fully working before shipping them out, we will ship all the systems together instead of our previous prototype-plan. We think that this will help us make the systems and the software as effective and reliable as possible.

The new expected shipping date has therefore been set to the 25th of July.

Currently, we have filled orders for 106 modules, but we have all the required components to deliver the remaining 94 modules to (new) clients. We will keep working hard in order to ship out our products as soon as possible.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Regards,

ASX Project


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: shebang- on July 18, 2013, 11:41:32 PM
I understand someone with one post may seem skeptical, but I'm sure I have proof this site is a scam. Here's a post I made on reddit concerning it, edited to proper forum format.

I hadn't heard of ASX before this, I'll look in to it. Thanks for the detailed suggestion

Edit: Looking at the prices, 150GH/s for $2,249 seems a little ridiculous. I was expecting at least $5,000+ for a system like that.

Edit 2: From a Google search, that case front they show is nearly exactly the same as the Corsair Obsidian 900D case, but.. shorter. ASX Project (http://asxproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/case_front.png), Obsidian 900D (http://www.chiploco.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Corsair-Obsidian-900D-2.png).

Edit 3: I'm convinced it's a scam. The censored chip they show (http://asxproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/censored-asic-chip.jpg) is an Apple Quickdraw Graphics chip. Their heatsink picture seems to be unique, but their power supply image is literally the fifth result when searching "computer power supply".


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: dwdoc on July 19, 2013, 12:20:53 AM
We all concluded that back in May.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: initforthemoney on July 19, 2013, 12:56:28 AM
Definitely interested to see if this is legit, too afraid to invest myself lol.


Title: Re: New Company Claims to be Selling Bitcoin Mining ASIC Systems: www.asxproject.com
Post by: dwdoc on July 19, 2013, 01:40:09 AM
Read the thread.  It's a scam.